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Old 02-27-2011, 9:33 PM
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Im almost done building my AR-15 all im just waiting for is my upper which should be here any day now. But i was wondering what could i hunt with an AR-15 in .223?
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Anything. I am pretty sure that in CA you can use any centerfire rifle round to hunt.
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Ive heard of people going after boar with .223. I know I wouldnt do it, but im no hunter.
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Pretty much anything. Wouldn't hunt deer with it though, unless you want to have to track a wounded deer (do yourself and the animal a favor and use something bigger like .308, 30-06, etc.)
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a round with a nosler partion bullet you can take down a good size muley or pig but it is critical to have good shot placement. a pulled shot with a .223 will equate to an animal running for a long distance before it goes down.
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Squirrels and Rabbits. There just won't be much left.

But seriously, I think PCH hunts coyotes with .223.
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I would not recommend hunting large game with a .223, but it is an excellent round for hunting small game/varmints. Coyote and rabbits are regularly taken with .223. Heck, cotton tails are great for improving your skills, especially when they are on the run. Oh and they are tasty.
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You can kill anything with a .223 given enough rounds and enough time. That isn't practical for most hunting situations, though.

With some nice heavy 68-75g bullets (with an appropriate barrel) will drop a deer fairly quickly with a well placed shot as long as you're not taking 400+ yard shots out of a 16" AR. Whether or not you can hit the target area is the question. You get a bad shot and have the deer live for a while and run for a mile or two and that is going to suck for the both of you.
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I always find it odd that people question 5.56/223 when it comes to hunting,
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I was thinking boar with my Ar. But I will eventually pick up a .308 bolt action hunting rifle in a little bit. Just wanted to know if I could use my .223 with a 68 gr round to take out boar.
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I was thinking boar with my Ar. But I will eventually pick up a .308 bolt action hunting rifle in a little bit. Just wanted to know if I could use my .223 with a 68 gr round to take out boar.

would not be my round of choice for that endeavor, however I have seen a vid of a man taking down a hog with an airgun, so i guess anything is possible
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Well they do call the at a mouse gun. Jk.

Does anybody remember the loose cow on hwy 4 a few months ago? I part of that, we were rounding the cattle up and one jumped the fence and got onto hwy 4 in pittsburg. That cow took took two to the head and shrugged it off. That was from an m16 with fmj that the chp had it took about an hour before she would lay lay down. Animal control finally put her down with a 20 gauge slug to the head. I didn't bring my .308 this day since the move was last minute.

I did put down another with a mini 14 wolf .223 with a head shot a point blank with no problem.
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I always find it odd that people question 5.56/223 when it comes to hunting,
yet defend it like no other when the M16 or M4 come into question
Because the 5.56 Nato round wasn't designed to instantly kill people.

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would not be my round of choice for that endeavor, however I have seen a vid of a man taking down a hog with an airgun, so i guess anything is possible
69g hollow point/Vmax through the eye will do it every time.

I shot a boar at 150m in TX with a buddies 30.06 that didn't have a good zero. The round passed through the stomach and the animal was just PO'ed at that point. I closed on him with the scope in low power, he charged and round two entered below the neck, dead on impact. Round placement is critical in hunting. 69g just limits humane/quick kills to the brain box. I can't stand seeing an animal suffer and as such won't hunt with 1: Other peoples rifles 2: Anything smaller than .308 unless it's a varmint.

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The deer in southern California can be taken with a .223 and a quality bullet that stays together when expanding. If a hunter can successfully take down a deer with an arrow an expanding .223 bullet will do the job. The deer around here aren't that big.
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Varmit and military round. Yes, placement, practice, etc... Realistically, go .30 for hunting anything bigger than 90lbs (in my opinion). It does work very well for yotes, ground squirrels, and other varmits.
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Well they do call the at a mouse gun. Jk.

Does anybody remember the loose cow on hwy 4 a few months ago? I part of that, we were rounding the cattle up and one jumped the fence and got onto hwy 4 in pittsburg. That cow took took two to the head and shrugged it off. That was from an m16 with fmj that the chp had it took about an hour before she would lay lay down. Animal control finally put her down with a 20 gauge slug to the head. I didn't bring my .308 this day since the move was last minute.

I did put down another with a mini 14 wolf .223 with a head shot a point blank with no problem.
I'd like to know the context of CHP shooting a cow on hwy 4 with their M4's. Seems a little dangerous, eve if hwy 4 was closed!

Speaking of highway 4 in pittsburg, remember last year when a private security company stopped for a naked man on highway 4 and it ended up he was drugged up, fight ensures ON highway 4 with the security and man. CHP arrives to help take him into custody, I think with a tazer. 20 minutes later he's dead. Needed the M4's for THAT!

Ummmmm..... can you kill a bear with .223/5.56? I wanna take my AR hunting, not as the primary kill gun, just as a protection gun....
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A little off track but you can hunt anything in North America with this AR15:

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Ummmmm..... can you kill a bear with .223/5.56? I wanna take my AR hunting, not as the primary kill gun, just as a protection gun....
You could with the right shot but I wouldn't recommend it to most people. I would pick up a nice hand cannon for protection in case you just pissed the bear off and it decided to run in your direction.
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If you have to ask you obviously are not a hunter!

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Just saw a show where F&G gave a guy a ticket for hunting with FMJ.... don't be that guy. Buy ammo made for hunting and research the area you will be in.
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I was under the impression that CA F&G regs required a caliber greater than .24 to hunt deer? That said, if it is legal you can take deer with .223 but it's not ideal. To be humane about it a head or neck shot is the only reliably quick kill. Hogs are easy with .223 as well but same thing, ear shots.

I shot a hog with my AR-10 in December... .308 @ 10 yards. He had walked up on me while I was crouched examining the deer I had just taken. Stupidly, my scope was still dialed up to 10x and he saw me when I raised my rifle. So all I saw was brown, and I know I hit him but I think I hit him far forward in the neck/chest. He ran well over 100yds and we never did find him. Shot placement is the most important factor in hunting, but you do need to use a heavy enough projectile carrying enough energy to drop the target humanely.

If you get some good 68/69gr ammo and are competent with your rifle you can take deer & hog no problem, but expect to track them. With lighter ammo stick to coyotes, prairie dogs, and other varmint sized game. Get a 6.8 upper if need be, 6.8 is great for deer & hogs.
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I was under the impression that CA F&G regs required a caliber greater than .24 to hunt deer?
You can legally hunt anything that is a game animal (not fowl) in CA with a .25 ACP handgun, with the barrel needing to be 4" in if you are hunting Sheep or (cant remember or google it).

That is legally, not humanely or smart, big difference. One of the reasons why I am back to getting my CZ carbine in 7.62x39 (thanks extra bonus) because as a noob hunter I feel I need to bring a .03 bullet to the hunt, maybe when I get better I will try the head shot with a .223 but I got a lot of learning to do.
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Shot placement is paramount, how confident are you with that rifle? If you can get the right shot anything can be taken down with a 223.
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Ummmmm..... can you kill a bear with .223/5.56? I wanna take my AR hunting, not as the primary kill gun, just as a protection gun....
Maybe a 12ga slug gun would be better.
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I was under the impression that CA F&G regs required a caliber greater than .24 to hunt deer? That said, if it is legal you can take deer with .223 but it's not ideal. To be humane about it a head or neck shot is the only reliably quick kill. Hogs are easy with .223 as well but same thing, ear shots.

I shot a hog with my AR-10 in December... .308 @ 10 yards. He had walked up on me while I was crouched examining the deer I had just taken. Stupidly, my scope was still dialed up to 10x and he saw me when I raised my rifle. So all I saw was brown, and I know I hit him but I think I hit him far forward in the neck/chest. He ran well over 100yds and we never did find him. Shot placement is the most important factor in hunting, but you do need to use a heavy enough projectile carrying enough energy to drop the target humanely.

If you get some good 68/69gr ammo and are competent with your rifle you can take deer & hog no problem, but expect to track them. With lighter ammo stick to coyotes, prairie dogs, and other varmint sized game. Get a 6.8 upper if need be, 6.8 is great for deer & hogs.
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I'd like to know the context of CHP shooting a cow on hwy 4 with their M4's. Seems a little dangerous, eve if hwy 4 was closed!

Speaking of highway 4 in pittsburg, remember last year when a private security company stopped for a naked man on highway 4 and it ended up he was drugged up, fight ensures ON highway 4 with the security and man. CHP arrives to help take him into custody, I think with a tazer. 20 minutes later he's dead. Needed the M4's for THAT!

Ummmmm..... can you kill a bear with .223/5.56? I wanna take my AR hunting, not as the primary kill gun, just as a protection gun....
This happened between Railroad and Bailey west bound shoulder. Hwy 4 was closed the cow was boxed in between the k rail and sound wall, the CHP used a surplus m16a1. if the officer missed the shot the bullet would of impacted the sound wall, the shot was only 10' at the most. If I had my .308 I would of taken the shot.

Ch 2 had a camera guy their and we tried to block the view of the camera guy for each shot.
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I have a buddy who has a depredation permit for wild hogs, and he uses a AR15. He is a heck of a shot, but really he uses it for the high capacity magazines (dont worry they are legal). Although if he is out hunting for a hog he is using more then a 223, its more a convience thing.
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This happened between Railroad and Bailey west bound shoulder. Hwy 4 was closed the cow was boxed in between the k rail and sound wall, the CHP used a surplus m16a1. if the officer missed the shot the bullet would of impacted the sound wall, the shot was only 10' at the most. If I had my .308 I would of taken the shot.

Ch 2 had a camera guy their and we tried to block the view of the camera guy for each shot.
I'd be less worried about the potential "danger" of the situation and more concerned with whether or not CHP paid for the cow or made an attempt to contact it's owner for live removal prior to just putting it down...
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I'd be less worried about the potential "danger" of the situation and more concerned with whether or not CHP paid for the cow or made an attempt to contact it's owner for live removal prior to just putting it down...
We gave the officer permission to shoot the cow. Like I said in the two posts before if I had my rifle I would of took the shot
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We gave the officer permission to shoot the cow. Like I said in the two posts before if I had my rifle I would of took the shot
Right, with CHP's mentality they would have cited someone for letting the cow loose on the freeway as opposed to offering to pay for it, LOL.
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We gave the officer permission to shoot the cow. Like I said in the two posts before if I had my rifle I would of took the shot
Ahh, I saw you say you didn't have your rifle but I missed the part where it was your cow, sorry.
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