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Old 02-18-2011, 8:56 PM
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Hey guys, I'm new to this forum and new to guns. I recently decided to get a hand gun but haven't bought one yet. I was doing to research on some gun but there seems to be so much to learn. I have been looking at the FNH FNP40 or the FNX40.

I have a few questions.

Is it cheaper to buy online and have it shipped to a FFL dealer and pay their paperwork fees or to just buy the gun at the dealer?

I know I will have to go to the dealer first to fill up the background check paper work first before buying the gun.

Second question, How come some guns cost more then others in the same caliber? IE, the FNP40 is around $450-$550 and a Sig 226 for about $1000 or a HK.

Are those guns better made? More accurate?

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Hey guys, I'm new to this forum and new to guns. I recently decided to get a hand gun but haven't bought one yet. I was doing to research on some gun but there seems to be so much to learn. I have been looking at the FNH FNP40 or the FNX40.

I have a few questions.

Is it cheaper to buy online and have it shipped to a FFL dealer and pay their paperwork fees or to just buy the gun at the dealer?

I know I will have to go to the dealer first to fill up the background check paper work first before buying the gun.
It may or may not be cheaper to buy online depending on what your FFL charges for a transfer. Mine charges $60 otd, so I add that onto whatever I have to pay to get the gun there and see if it is worth the cost vs paying for it from him + tax and dros. When buying a gun online, typically, you pay for the gun and have your FFL provide a copy of their license to the person selling it. The gun is shipped to your FFL and you start your DROS/background check process. You would be well served to call around to FFL's around you to see what they charge for these kinds of transfers. Alternatively, you can look around the for sale forums here and set up a ftf sale, in which you only pay the FFL $35 for the transfer plus the cost of the gun.
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Hey guys, I'm new to this forum and new to guns. I recently decided to get a hand gun but haven't bought one yet. I was doing to research on some gun but there seems to be so much to learn. I have been looking at the FNH FNP40 or the FNX40.

I have a few questions.

Is it cheaper to buy online and have it shipped to a FFL dealer and pay their paperwork fees or to just buy the gun at the dealer?

It can be, but you have to do the math as far as shipping costs and transfer fee's charged by the FFL.

I know I will have to go to the dealer first to fill up the background check paper work first before buying the gun.

You also have to make sure the gun is on the Ca. Safe handgun roster, otherwise it cant be shipped in.

Second question, How come some guns cost more then others in the same caliber? IE, the FNP40 is around $450-$550 and a Sig 226 for about $1000 or a HK.

Well thats like asking why a Mercedes costs more than a Lexus. Some guns are of higher quality, while some are of higher hype. It's up to you to decide the price point for you.

Are those guns better made? More accurate?

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Thanks guys for the fast response. What are the better made handgun out there? What am I suppose to look for when buying a gun? How it feels in my hand? As far as look wise I like how the FNX and the Beretta 96A1 looks.
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Welcome to Calguns. Often it is not cheaper to buy online as a resident of CA.

Support local businesses.

Some guns are more than others for the same reasons as most things. Do some research, go to a range and rent some guns to see what you like best.

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Thanks guys for the fast response. What are the better made handgun out there? What am I suppose to look for when buying a gun? How it feels in my hand? As far as look wise I like how the FNX and the Beretta 96A1 looks.
Honestly you should go to a range and rent a few different guns and see how you like them. I am partial to Glocks for handguns, but other people hate them. What kind of price range are you looking at, what do you want to use the gun for?
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Thanks guys for the fast response. What are the better made handgun out there? What am I suppose to look for when buying a gun? How it feels in my hand? As far as look wise I like how the FNX and the Beretta 96A1 looks.
Really comes down to personal taste. Most guns over $550 are good guns. Rent some at the range and see what you like best.

Best way to do it.
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Honestly you should go to a range and rent a few different guns and see how you like them. I am partial to Glocks for handguns, but other people hate them. What kind of price range are you looking at, what do you want to use the gun for?
My price range is probably under $700. Just wanted to always own a gun and go to shooting range.

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What you mean not on the roster? I can't have one in CA? How about the Beretta m90a1?
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Thanks guys for the fast response. What are the better made handgun out there? What am I suppose to look for when buying a gun? How it feels in my hand? As far as look wise I like how the FNX and the Beretta 96A1 looks.
Price does not always reflect the quality of a handgun or it's reliability. You could easily spend $1500 on a nice 1911 and have all sorts of problems, and on the other hand you could spend $400 on a used Glock or $550 on a new Glock and it will run everything you throw at it just fine.

FN makes some nice guns, but not all of them are on the CA roster, so this makes finding and buying them a little more costly usually. There are some FFL's who will do a single shot conversion for you, which will allow you to buy a new off roster gun, but it will cost you a bit more than say an on-roster gun.

As others have said you should go to a range and rent some guns. If you're completely new to handguns then I suggest getting with a friend who knows handguns and can help you out with stance and proper shooting technique. It's usually best to start on a .22 so you can get down basics like trigger control, actions, safeties, and so on. From there you can move up to a 9mm, and so on.

HK, Sig, Glock, S&W, Springfield, CZ, FN, they all make really good guns, and they all fit and work a little different. It would be ill-advised to buy a gun without ever shooting one of the style you're looking to buy. A lot of people are partial to Glock because they go bang every time and have few controls to fiddle with, not to mention parts are accessories are cheap and plentiful. However, the grip can be less than desirable, and this is where the other models listed above really shine.

It's all personal preference. If you're near Orange County send me a PM and we'll go to the range together.
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Go with Sig or HK , I know for a fact Sig's customer service is far superior to FnH.

& Yes ive saved a lot buying on gun broker.com at times as long as the dealer your getting it shipped to does not charge too much, my dealer charges $85 total ($25 for dros and they make $60) which I think is fair.

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Price does not always reflect the quality of a handgun or it's reliability. You could easily spend $1500 on a nice 1911 and have all sorts of problems, and on the other hand you could spend $400 on a used Glock or $550 on a new Glock and it will run everything you throw at it just fine.

FN makes some nice guns, but not all of them are on the CA roster, so this makes finding and buying them a little more costly usually. There are some FFL's who will do a single shot conversion for you, which will allow you to buy a new off roster gun, but it will cost you a bit more than say an on-roster gun.

As others have said you should go to a range and rent some guns. If you're completely new to handguns then I suggest getting with a friend who knows handguns and can help you out with stance and proper shooting technique. It's usually best to start on a .22 so you can get down basics like trigger control, actions, safeties, and so on. From there you can move up to a 9mm, and so on.

HK, Sig, Glock, S&W, Springfield, CZ, FN, they all make really good guns, and they all fit and work a little different. It would be ill-advised to buy a gun without ever shooting one of the style you're looking to buy. A lot of people are partial to Glock because they go bang every time and have few controls to fiddle with, not to mention parts are accessories are cheap and plentiful. However, the grip can be less than desirable, and this is where the other models listed above really shine.

It's all personal preference. If you're near Orange County send me a PM and we'll go to the range together.

I have been to shooting range at burro canyon a few times already and shot a beretta 9mm, ruger 40mm, and a bunch of ars.

So I know how to shoot a gun, hold a gun, and the proper stance but still a noob. The friends I went shooting with don't really know much about handguns because they don't really like them. They are into their AR. Like m brother thats is in the military don't know much about handguns just AR so I can't ask him anything about handguns.

I will sure shoot you a PM when I get my gun.
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Go with Sig or HK , I know for a fact Sig's customer service is far superior to FnH.

& Yes ive saved a lot buying on gun broker.com at times as long as the dealer your getting it shipped to does not charge too much, my dealer charges $85 total ($25 for dros and they make $60) which I think is fair.
I really like the Sig 226 or HK but I really don't wanna spend $1000 on a handgun.
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I have been to shooting range at burro canyon a few times already and shot a beretta 9mm, ruger 40mm, and a bunch of ars.

So I know how to shoot a gun, hold a gun, and the proper stance but still a noob. The friends I went shooting with don't really know much about handguns because they don't really like them. They are into their AR. Like m brother thats is in the military don't know much about handguns just AR so I can't ask him anything about handguns.

I will sure shoot you a PM when I get my gun.


I really like the Sig 226 or HK but I really don't wanna spend $1000 on a handgun.
I meant to shoot me a PM before you buy so we can go rent a few and I could help you out.

The P226 and HK are nice guns, and they do cost more. Right now Sig has a polymer pistol called the SP2022 on sale for $399 new. I have a 9mm version that I'm planning on selling if you're interested in trying it out.

Make sure to look at the XD and M&P line too, they're great guns and come in for less money than Sig or HK.

Are you looking for a polymer or metal gun?

Any caliber preference or is 9mm good?
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Support local businesses.

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Save a little ($) lose a lot (gun-friendly businesses who support your 2A rights). Shop around and see if you can find a local business that charges only a little more than the online vendors for the guns you may be interested in.

Do some more research on the CA Handgun Roster. Basically, these are the guns that will be more easily acquired depending on how challenging you find the single shot exemption process (again more research). Some guns cost more depending on marketing and manufacturing. The key is to find the best gun for you and possibly your budget. Most handguns are accurate enough for the distances they are meant for which is why it is important to find the best gun for you. Most anyone could probably make themself accurate with many of the available guns, but which guns is it easier to be accurate with? Which gun handles the best for them?

Part of the research process could involve renting guns at a local range and finding the ones you like. *Not what I usually do, but I have caught myself doing buy now and sell later. Probably better to rent but when I buy first, I do handling practice without any ammo at home in addition to live fire practice at the range. Typically not something you can do when you rent.

If you really like the SiG, don't be afraid to buy used. Their triggers are usually better when they have been loved and used over several years. Good luck on your research and journey.

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Just wanted to add that the SiG SP2022 is a good inexpensive way to get into SiGs. I actually liked its trigger better than the P226 out of the box. The one I had was of very good quality and the polymer frame seemed very durable. I only sold it (see: buy now/sell later) because I've got very tiny hands and most double action pistols do not fit me.
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I meant to shoot me a PM before you buy so we can go rent a few and I could help you out.

The P226 and HK are nice guns, and they do cost more. Right now Sig has a polymer pistol called the SP2022 on sale for $399 new. I have a 9mm version that I'm planning on selling if you're interested in trying it out.

Make sure to look at the XD and M&P line too, they're great guns and come in for less money than Sig or HK.

Are you looking for a polymer or metal gun?

Any caliber preference or is 9mm good?
The Sp2022 look really nice and priced way below what I plan to spend. Why is the SP2022 price lower then the others like 226 or 1911? Is it because it is polymer instead of metal?

What are the pro and cons of the polymer and metal gun?
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The Sp2022 look really nice and priced way below what I plan to spend. Why is the SP2022 price lower then the others like 226 or 1911? Is it because it is polymer instead of metal?

What are the pro and cons of the polymer and metal gun?
From what I've seen first hand with my SP2022 is it's priced lower because of the manufacturing process, not because of a lower quality. I understand that some people have had some issues with certain SP2022 models, however I have had absolutely nothing but the best service from mine since I've had it.

The biggest difference between a polymer and metal gun is weight. After that is usually price. It seems that most metal guns are designed more around the 1911 style, while a lot of polymers have their own look and feel to them.

One advantage of a polymer is the frame absorbs some recoil while shooting. A metal gun has the advantage of weight which also can keep recoil down.

Again, this is a preference, as both designs do well. Polymers have been proven reliable and duty ready. Many countries use them for military operations, and it seems that polymers have become the most used LEO handgun in the U.S.
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You guessed it, polymer construction. Although somehow H&K finds a way to violate this logic with their pricing.

Polymer pros are lightweight and easy to handle. Should be less expensive. Cons are some people prefer metal and others feel that the gun is top heavy and not balanced.

Metal pros are usually a more solid feel and typically heavier which for some means better recoil feel. Also weight may feel more balanced between the slide and the frame. Cons are price and maybe durability depending on the quality of the manufacturer.

Back to discussing recoil. I really don't feel one is better than the other in this regard. Some people say polymer flex mitigates recoil while others say the mass of metal is better with recoil. I feel design, engineering, and balance are more important. Usually metal frames win the argument on recoil but I've handled some polymer framed guns that I thought recoil was better than in metal framed guns. I will admit in this case I mean perceived recoil.
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Is the sig sp2022 a compact gun? It looks a little bit smaller than the FNP40. I like bigger gun but not as big as the 1911. I haven't see one in person but I can tell from the long barrel it has its bigger.
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I'd say it's a medium sized gun. Here is my 16 year old cousin shooting mine, she has big hands for a girl.

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Sigs are nice guns. If you can find a affordable FFL that charges $60-$80 for DROS then its not that bad. You can find used P226's from $500-$800. Or if you get really lucky and find a Certified Pre-Owned sig for about $600. The most important thing is for you to hold the guns and see how well it fits your hands. A couple years ago my brother-in-law bought a Ruger P345 because the barrel was big(.45 acp) compared to a Taurus 9mm and because it was cheap(it was like $450 OTD). He only shot like 50 rounds and never shot it anymore because he didn't like how it felt in his hands. A couple months ago he brought it to a local gun store and traded it in for a police trade-in Sig P226 and paid $500 more(it was like $700 OTD). Like most everyone here has mentioned, if you're able to find a local dealer who charges a little more then the internet vendors, might as well support the local businesses.
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Yeah, I don't mind paying a little more for my conveniences. As long as it's not more than $80 differences. Do most gun shop sell used?
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buy online if shipping is free with no credit card fee....no CA sales tax is a definite plus. Find a local FFL who only charges $60 or less for DROS/transfer fee is very reasonable.
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As others have said you should go to a range and rent some guns. If you're completely new to handguns then I suggest getting with a friend who knows handguns and can help you out with stance and proper shooting technique. It's usually best to start on a .22 so you can get down basics like trigger control, actions, safeties, and so on. From there you can move up to a 9mm, and so on.

This is what I did and it's good advice. I went with a friend who let me shoot a couple of his handguns. He first gave me a lesson on safety, stance and shooting technique and then let me have a go. I was glad to have the opportunity to ask questions from someone with experience and who could keep and eye on me.


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HK, Sig, Glock, S&W, Springfield, CZ, FN, they all make really good guns, and they all fit and work a little different. It would be ill-advised to buy a gun without ever shooting one of the style you're looking to buy. A lot of people are partial to Glock because they go bang every time and have few controls to fiddle with, not to mention parts are accessories are cheap and plentiful. However, the grip can be less than desirable, and this is where the other models listed above really shine.

Just a few of my notes on this point - think about the overall picture of price, looks, feel, grip, accuracy, etc.

When I was looking to buy, my friend let me try out his Glock 19 and his Sig 226. I shot a couple mags of the Glock first and that was fine. Then I picked up the Sig and it felt like money in my hand. The grip was awesome....but I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it. Another CalGunner once said it best when he commented on his experience, "It felt like I wasn't controlling the gun, the gun was controlling me."

I switched back to the Glock for a few more mags. Having just shot the Sig, I realized that the Glock grip feels a bit like holding a brick in your hand. But do you know what? I went right back to getting better groupings and having control over my shots. I also shot a couple hundred rounds down a Glock 17 for good measure and decided I liked the 19. So, in spite of the fact that the Sig 226 sure is a pretty handgun and it feels nice, I had to go with the Glock. The bottom line for me is being able to pump those rounds through the middle. And, for me, the Glock is it. For you, it may be something else.

The other CalGunners here are giving some good pointers. My best advice to add is that you work out what you want out of the gun and then try out a few kinds to see which wil best meet your needs. Good luck!

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Expensive guns you will probably save more. Low or medium priced guns not so much. I saved $450 buying my M1A Rifle on line, and shipping it to myu local FFL.

I would not go through the hassle to save $30. For that, I would rather support my local dealer. But to save larger amounts of money, for me, it's probably worth it.
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I found it to be more expensive online for a gun. Plus buying locally will give you a place to go to ask questions about guns and stuff.
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I bought CZ 75 SP-01 @ Turners...it was on sale...I paid $752 OTD....
I can buy same pistol for $599+$75(dros+transfer fee)...$77 cheaper to buy online
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OP,

Not to get preachy, but build a relationship and rapport with your local shop (if reputable). I may pay more, but the local shop has been around a long time and employs neighbors/family friends; it is worth it to pay a little more to ensure that a local business continues on.

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For sale forum here will save you some cash. Check it out
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If I see a new gun online that I'm interested in, I go to my favorite gun store, and ask the owner if he can meet the online price. If he can, I buy it from him.

If he cannot, I buy it online, have it shipped to him, and he charges me a $25 transaction fee.

He knows I'm still his good customer, and will buy from him when I'm looking for a used handgun or whenever he can meet the online price for a new gun.
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If I see a new gun online that I'm interested in, I go to my favorite gun store, and ask the owner if he can meet the online price. If he can, I buy it from him.

If he cannot, I buy it online, have it shipped to him, and he charges me a $25 transaction fee.

He knows I'm still his good customer, and will buy from him when I'm looking for a used handgun or whenever he can meet the online price for a new gun.
^ This, but they have always been able to come within $20 so as of yet I have never made an online purchase.
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Yeah, I don't mind paying a little more for my conveniences. As long as it's not more than $80 differences. Do most gun shop sell used?
This is my cutoff too for local. Used to be $100 but the sales tax in my county is robbery. Of course I just bought a rimfire rifle today and my local shop beat the online price.

Some shops have used available and some don't.
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I couldnt imagine buying a handgun online. You need to grip the gun, feel the trigger pull, shoot it if possible. If it is too compact the grip may be too short. I dont like compacts, my little finger hangs off the bottom. Glocks tend to have a wider grip. For me, purchasing the right firearm is vital to shooting accuracy.

I also believe in having a gunshop/owner/gunsmith that you can build a relationship with locally. Questions and problems come up and it is good to have a "paid" expert on hand.
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I found this gun shop online selling a Sig p226 40s&w 10rd for $752. That is pretty cheap, I saw some p226 at Bass Pro and they were all $900 to $1000 plus tax. I asked how much were the paper work if I would to buy online and have them ship it there. They said $100, its a the high side but $752 plus $100 including tax is a big difference from spending $1000-$1100. Heres a link to the gun.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/30572

I checked the ca handgun roster for the sig p226 and found some but they don't have model numbers. Can you guys tell me if this gun is ca safe?

Thanks

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Here in San Diego (South), I found it to be more expensive to buy on-line. With my FFL if I buy from him and he buys it from his distributor and or has it in stock I can save a substantial amount of money. I bought a Glock 22 Gen 3 steel sights for $550, out the door was like $620 (With tax, HSC).

Find what works for you first. I hated the '1911' style grip angle. So I got a Glock and loved it.

Once you found what works for you. Shop around your local FFL/Gun Shops. Make sure you ask for the 'Out The Door Price'.

Make sure you factor these expenses/fee's;

-Cost of weapon
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-DROS ($25.00)
-HSC ($25.00, Unless exempt)
-Gun lock (If one does not come with your weapon of choice)
-Locking case (If needed to accurate your weapon from the FFL, As I've seen some just show how to wrap the cable lock around the handle of the case)
-Good cleaning kit for your weapon.
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OP,

Not to get preachy, but build a relationship and rapport with your local shop (if reputable). I may pay more, but the local shop has been around a long time and employs neighbors/family friends; it is worth it to pay a little more to ensure that a local business continues on.

/climbs off soapbox
I don't get this line of thinking.. When I bought my RIA 1911, I got it online and with everything dropped $505. The cheapest the same gun was in town was $600 and change. I chose to support the FFL that didn't set out to gouge me.
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I should have mentioned my 'paying more' was only about $35. A difference like yours would make me think twice. Luckily, my local shop(s) works with me on prices and have been very close to online retailers.
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I found this gun shop online selling a Sig p226 40s&w 10rd for $752. That is pretty cheap, I saw some p226 at Bass Pro and they were all $900 to $1000 plus tax. I asked how much were the paper work if I would to buy online and have them ship it there. They said $100, its a the high side but $752 plus $100 including tax is a big difference from spending $1000-$1100. Heres a link to the gun.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/30572

I checked the ca handgun roster for the sig p226 and found some but they don't have model numbers. Can you guys tell me if this gun is ca safe?

Thanks

S
Check elsewhere besides Bass Pro for price quotes on guns. They'll get closer to Buds Gun Shop than you might think.
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My lgs gouges gun buyers. Unfortunately they are the only range in town. Otherwise I'd go else where. They participate in g.o.g. Which is actually a good way to go and you can save a few bucks and still support lgs. Good luck and enjoy
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