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Old 09-03-2016, 6:50 PM
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Default Shoud I get rid of my Beretta .32 Tomcat?

I went to the range today. Fired 100 rds of 10mm, then I fired my little Tomcat that I just got a month ago...wanted to break it in with another 200 rds. When I shot it after shooting my Glock 20 I almost started laughing, because it was such a drastic change...I realized that the little Tomcat that I bought because it was cute (I've never had or shot a .32) and thought it might make a nice little pocket gun was really probably useless for self defense. Should I get rid of it?
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I went to the range today. Fired 100 rds of 10mm, then I fired my little Tomcat that I just got a month ago...wanted to break it in with another 200 rds. When I shot it after shooting my Glock 20 I almost started laughing, because it was such a drastic change...I realized that the little Tomcat that I bought because it was cute (I've never had or shot a .32) and thought it might make a nice little pocket gun was really probably useless for self defense. Should I get rid of it?
If you do decide to dump it, and live in the Sacramento or Stockton vicinity, shoot me a PM.....I might be interested.
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Thirty twos are just plain fun and it did make you laugh.

Not the best weapon for SD but possibly better than a sharp stick.

Next time shoot the .32 first.

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If you have any kind of use for it, keep it, if not let it go.

If could be the hidden under the coffee table gun if no kids, etc.

I shoot .357s for a bit, then go to my .22s and back, all for fun.
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James Bond shot .32s, right? If it's good enough to kill international assassins, it's good enough for you!
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James Bond shot .32s, right? If it's good enough to kill international assassins, it's good enough for you!
.32 killed Hitler, but it was a close range shot.
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Hardly "useless" for self-defense if you can't carry anything larger.

With that said, if you don't have a CCW permit, then yeah, kind of useless.
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I have pondered the same question. Neat piece but ammo is expensive, I never carry it and haven't shot it in over 12 years. Its also thicker than and weighs about as much as my Kahr PM9.
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This much I do know for sure.... One quick hit with that .32 will do far better than 3 quick misses with the G20. It's not useless if you find it handy to consistently have with you. First rule in a gunfight is have a gun.
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Dad had one, always liked it. would love to find another one.
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Yes you should. Pm me and I'll make sure it goes away.
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If you're anywhere near San Diego, sell it to me ..cheap!

I'll stand by for your PM.

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My dad paid nearly $600 for one a couple of years ago, after he gave his Jetfire to my sister and couldn't find a replacement. I think he's shot it once or twice. He carries it occasionally.

My opinion is that one shouldn't sell a gun just because it's of a smaller caliber. They each have a purpose. I like the idea of an "under the coffee table gun."
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Nothing wrong with a .32.
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My dad paid nearly $600 for one a couple of years ago, after he gave his Jetfire to my sister and couldn't find a replacement. I think he's shot it once or twice. He carries it occasionally.

My opinion is that one shouldn't sell a gun just because it's of a smaller caliber. They each have a purpose. I like the idea of an "under the coffee table gun."
$600 I thought I got ripped when I paid around $400 for mine.
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I'm still kicking myself for not getting a nickel Jetfire or Bobcat - they may be pea-shooters, but they still have their place.
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$600 I thought I got ripped when I paid around $400 for mine.
Right? There's a certain shop that he likes that I don't shop at that seems to rip him off a lot. I've tried to tell him, but he likes the guy.
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Can't seem to pull it up again, but I read about some .32 ACP self defense ammo that has just come out, with better penetration than standard.
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I've owned exactly one pistol in .32 ACP. Same issue, shot my 9mms with hefty defense loads. Afterwards, shooting .32 ACP was like shooting a pop gun, pretty boring. Sold the gun, don't miss it at all.
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Can't seem to pull it up again, but I read about some .32 ACP self defense ammo that has just come out, with better penetration than standard.
Lehigh Defense maybe?
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op is banned but i love my Beretta .32


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Can't seem to pull it up again, but I read about some .32 ACP self defense ammo that has just come out, with better penetration than standard.
Lehigh Defense 50gr Cavitator. Available from Underwood. Pretty well proven via gel tests(several on youtube). Renders the .32 a pretty valid carry caliber.
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James Bond shot .32s, right? If it's good enough to kill international assassins, it's good enough for you!
Yep. He upgraded from a .25ACP Beretta Model 418 to a .32ACP Walther PPK.

For about 50 years, the .32ACP cartridge was the standard issue European police service cartridge.
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I had a few Seecamps in .32 back in the mid 90s. Seecamps were rare (Lewis built) and trendy.

Sold them.

Had a couple .380s. Sold them.

Minimum for me personally is 9MM or Hot .38 Special.

My carry is a Glock 29. "Backup" is a Ruger LC9S Pro or a .38 2 inch wheel.
Double action only on the wheel.

Once in a while my primary is the LC9S Pro. (9MM) Depends on the weather and the location. In addition I keep a Full House Glock 20SF in my GHB.

A mouse gun might make you feel better but the purpose of a self defense weapon should 'Stop the Fight'. Not make Bubba angry.

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I have pondered the same question. Neat piece but ammo is expensive, I never carry it and haven't shot it in over 12 years. Its also thicker than and weighs about as much as my Kahr PM9.
Not if you buy it on line and in case lots. $12.95 plus shipping of $14 = $13.65 per box landed.

http://www.sgammo.com/product/32-aut...fmj-ammo-ppr31
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Google search Beretta 3032 cracked frames. That might help you decide.
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Not if you buy it on line and in case lots. $12.95 plus shipping of $14 = $13.65 per box landed.

http://www.sgammo.com/product/32-aut...fmj-ammo-ppr31
About the same as I can get 9mm. In my mind it should be considerably less since less materials are used to manufacture.
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About the same as I can get 9mm. In my mind it should be considerably less since less materials are used to manufacture.
So should a lot of stuff that is smaller.

Children's clothes comes to mind.

Look at small guns. Sig 238/938 are pretty small yet command a high price.

Just how things go sometimes.

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Can't seem to pull it up again, but I read about some .32 ACP self defense ammo that has just come out, with better penetration than standard.
Yup, it can penetrate TWO sheets of paper. Just joking...
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Don't sell it. It might not be optimal for defense, but it's sure fun to shoot. Given the ratio of 100,000-1 of fun vs. defense, there is a good use for it.
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it is a Beretta: keep it.
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I go back and forth about my Beretta Tomcat/Alleycat all the time.

That said, I just qualified with it as one of three pistols on my Sacramento CCW application.

My frame has the crack, and it's an older blued, narrow slide version. I bought it back in 2002, and never shot it much. I like smaller pistols for some reason, even though at the time I was living in San Francisco and the probability of getting a CCW permit was zero.

Pros of the gun:
Small
Looks nice, especially with the wood grips
Pretty accurate
I like the tip up barrel design.
Fits in my pocket easily
Holds 7 +1 and I have a 10 rd magazine.
Came with Ashley big dot night sights
I enjoy shooting it.

Cons:
Eats firing pins, even with snap caps
Tends to FTF with aftermarket mags
Frame cracks. Hasn't changed reliability but it's pretty crappy.
Heavy and wide for a .32. This does make it easy to hold though.
.32 caliber might not be adequate, but I wouldn't want to get shot with 8 rounds in the chest at close range.

It's probably not the most reliable gun ever. It does seem though, that as guns get smaller and smaller, their reliability drops a bit. Maybe it's because the parts are smaller and springs need to have closer tolerances.

One of the other guns I qualified with is a S&W J frame revolver. It's extremely reliable. It gives up some capacity, but fires a more powerful round. It's also a little harder to pocket carry.

For me, these kinds of guns are about what compromises am I willing to take. Also, it's about what I expect from the guns, and what I get out of owning each one.

I like my Beretta, even with all of it's faults. It like the way it shoots. I like the way it grips, and I like the way it looks. I think the round isn't the best one for self defense, but it's better than nothing, and it conceals really easily.

I think that if I had to choose, and concealment was equal, I'd pick the J frame, mainly because I can shoot 158 gr +p Buffalo bore and feel pretty confident that if I do my part, the gun and rounds will do theirs.

But if I can't carry the J frame, the Beretta is a decent choice for me and my purposes.

A lot depends on what kind of situations one might find oneself in. I spend a fair amount of mental energy planning routes and avoiding compromising situations as much as I can.

Sorry for the long post.

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James Bond shot .32s, right? If it's good enough to kill international assassins, it's good enough for you!
Bonds first gun, taken away from him by M in the beginning Dr. No, was a Beretta 418 in 25acp. The replacement was the Walther PPK in 380.
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My wife has one because of the tip-up barrel. They need a long break-in. It tends to throw brass straight back, I use it to clear people standing behind me at the range.

Do not shoot 70 grain in this gun, it's designed for 60 grain ammo. Beretta warns about that in the manual. That may be a cause of frame cracks.
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I wouldn't judge it just by the small bang compared to the 10mm. Take it to the hills or wherever and shoot some jugs of water, preferably with hollow-points. I have a feeling it will surprise you, but if the bullets bounce off, you'll have your answer.
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i'd keep the Beretta.
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its probably easier to find 32 than it is 22
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Why get rid of any gun, unless you really need the money?
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Nothing wrong with a .32.
Keep a .32 gun in your pocket for fun and a razor in your shoe...
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Well whenever I look at my smallest pistol, a 25ACP I always say it's better than spit.
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