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Old 02-09-2011, 12:07 PM
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Default DO NOT POST PHOTOS/ARTICLES FROM THESE PAPERS!!

There is a law firm called 'Righthaven, LLC' which is aquiring rights to articles from various media groups and then suing anyone who uses articles or photos from the papers that are part of those media groups.

There have been blogs and web site shut down over this, Righthaven basically sues hoping for a settlement and sites that can not afford to fight in court or pay them off close down.

Apparently Righthaven has moved in to more questionable waters recently by suing Pajamas Media directly in spite of PM having a registered DMCA Agent.
If a site registers an Agent for contact under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) a copyright holder is required to contact that agent about removing the copyrighted image or article prior to filing suit.
Pajamas Media has a registered Agent, as does Calguns, but Righthaven filed suit in spite of that.

Rather than chase their own tails trying to remove selected articles from these papers many web site, again including Calguns.net now, are simply 'blacking out' these media groups and their papers/websites.
No photos, no articles, nothing from those on the list of media groups signing on with Righthaven.


Below is a list of newspapers by media group affiliated with Righthaven, LLC, do not post any photos or articles from these newspapers.

Here is a link to an Excel/ Open Office spreadsheet with the names and websites for the listed papers:
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* Alameda Times-Star
* Enterprise-Record
* Times-Standard
* Argus
* The Daily Review
* Lake County Record-Bee
* Press-Telegram
* The Monterey County Herald
* Marin Independent Journal
* Oakland Tribune
* Inland Valley Daily Bulletin
* Oroville Mercury-Register
* Pasadena Star-News
* Tri-Valley Herald
* Red Bluff Daily News
* Redlands Daily Facts
* The Sun
* San Jose Mercury News
* San Mateo County Times
* Santa Cruz Sentinel
* Daily Breeze
* The Ukiah Daily Journal
* The Reporter
* Times-Herald
* Contra Costa Times
* San Gabriel Valley Tribune
* Whittier Daily News
* Daily Democrat
* Daily News
* Daily Camera
* The Denver Post
* Fort Morgan Times
* Journal-Advocate
* Sentinel & Enterprise
* The Sun
* North Adams Transcript
* The Berkshire Eagle
* The Detroit News
* St. Paul Pioneer Press
* Alamogordo Daily News
* Carlsbad Current-Argus
* The Deming Headlight
* The Daily Times
* Las Cruces Sun-News
* Public Opinion
* The Evening Sun
* Lebanon Daily News
* The York Dispatch
* York Daily Record - York Sunday News
* El Paso Times
* The Salt Lake Tribune
* Bennington Banner
* Brattleboro Reformer
* Charleston Daily Mail


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* Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
* Banner News
* Benton County Daily Record
* California Democrat
* Camden News
* Chattanooga Times Free Press
* El Dorado News-Times
* Fulton Sun
* News Tribune
* NW Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
* NW Arkansas Times
* Rogers Morning News
* Springdale Morning News
* Texarkana Gazette
* The Sentinel-Record

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* Southwest Times Record
* Pine Bluff Commercial
* North Little Rock Times
* Press Argus Courier
* Jacksonville Patriot
* Sherwood Voice
* Maumelle Monitor
* Cabot Star-Herald
* Lonoke Democrat
* Carlisle Independent
* Hot Springs Village Voice
* Van Buren County Democrat
* Booneville Democrat
* Charleston Express
* Greenwood Democrat
* Paris Express
* White Hall Progress
* Lincoln Leader
* Farmington Post
* Prairie Grove Enterprise
* Hawaii Tribune-Herald
* West Hawaii Today
* Big Island Weekly
* North Hawaii News
* Las Vegas Review-Journal
* Las Vegas CityLife
* El Tiempo
* Las Vegas Business Press
* Boulder City Review
* Ely Times, Ely
* Rebel Nation
* Pahrump Valley Times
* Eureka Sentinal
* Tonopah Times-Bonanza
* Courier-Tribune
* The Herald Democrat
* Bartlesville Examiner-Enterprise
* Pawhuska Journal-Capital
* Anna-Melissa Tribune
* Grayson County Shopper
* Prosper Press, Prosper
* Van Alstyne Leader
* Lake Texoma Life
* The Daily Herald
* The Advertiser News
* The Value Guide
* Franklin Life
* Brentwood Life
* Healthy Living
* The Daily World
* The Vidette
* The North Coast News
* The South Beach Bulletin
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What a shame.....no photos or full articles....but teasers and links to the full story are still ok?
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Can we link to these articles, or can we just not quote them?
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There's no way I can remember all those. Is it okay to copy short excerpts from the article and post a link for the entire article?
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Thanks for the head's up, Kes
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There's no way I can remember all those. Is it okay to copy short excerpts from the article and post a link for the entire article?
copying short excerpts is still copying. I would not do it, if I were you.
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So, can we still post photos and articles on the Brady's forum?
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There's no way I can remember all those. Is it okay to copy short excerpts from the article and post a link for the entire article?
If you can avoid it, please do.

A title and a link, and take the time to write a line or two that describes the content.

"fair use", as a concept, is being severely tested.
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Something about this seems terribly dishonest. Can they be sued for too much suing?
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Righthaven basically sues hoping for a settlement and sites that can not afford to fight in court or pay them off close down.
Nice racket. Not.
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The folks are pure evil)which of course makes them the darling of much of the legacy /old school publishing industry). Copyright law has a little clause known as "fair use', which specifically allows some copying of materials so long as it's properly attributed (makes sense, right?).

In reality, nothing more than an attempt to monetize the failure of a mostly failed, morally corrupt industry that once created vast wealth for their owners.
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That is a lame racket. Point of clarification, if I provide a hotlink (using [url]) and then use [quote], is that okay? I am quoting an article I am referencing.

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So how would one reference an article of interest? Would they say "I read an article about such and such in such and such magazine, online website, etc..". "Can't link to it so look it up yourself and comment accordingly?
That is pretty sad.
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That is a lame racket. Point of clarification, if I provide a hotlink (using [url]) and then use a quote, is that okay? I am quoting an article I am referencing.

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So how would one reference an article of interest? Would they say "I read an article about such and such in such and such magazine, online website, etc..". "Can't link to it so look it up yourself and comment accordingly?
That is pretty sad.
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Please do not post whole articles - see http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=363956

Typically, one (short) paragraph and a link is low-risk.

See the stickies http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=394912
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Well... good enough for me then.

They get nothing from me!

I have a short copy/paste from a news article and a link... in the'What Are
You Listening To Right Now' thread...

I'll go track it down and delete it
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Im still seeing articles posted together with links. I dont think everyone is reading this thread.

Meantime, when i want to relay an article i mention the topic, my comments and suggest a reader google the topic to find the precise articles themselves. I wont be the cause of lawsuits coming calguns way.
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So at the apex of social media these slimeballs are trying capitalize on harmless article sharing? These types of greedy people put a hinderence on progress. Adapt and embrace technology you morons! What's next? They gonna sue for Re-Tweets?
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Looks like things aren't going terribly well for Righthaven. So sad


Article;
https://www.eff.org/press/archives/2011/06/14

Judge's order;
https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/r...der6-14-11.pdf
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You notice they used an LLC, which protects the actual company behind it from being sued, you can only sue the LLC which probably has no funding. What a crock, this is like what is happening in the Sacramento area where a lawyer is going around in a wheelchair looking for any business's that are not totally in compliance with the disability act. He sends a letter telling them to comply with the current code or he will sue, most of the time people give him a couple thousand dollars and he goes away, basically blackmail in my book.


You all really need to read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Righthaven_LLC

Read the lawsuit section, it looks as if what they are doing is not legal.

"On June 14, 2011, a federal court ruled that Righthaven has no standing to sue for copyright infringement, on the grounds that the original parties retain the actual copyrights, and that Righthaven failed to disclose their financial connections to Stephens Media."

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A little bit of reason and sanity in the courts? Say it ain't so!

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Righthaven continues to have problems: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...0-judgment.ars
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See, link and a short quote ...
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Sign of our times. Law firm looking to drum up business so they find out something that they can file lawsuits about and get the money to roll in. And it also figures that various media groups are signing on, what with the decline of their business. Can't make money using their existing business model so they rely on legal settlements to generate revenue.
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Judge scolds Righthaven lawyer, adds another $32,000 judgment
Published 3 days ago

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...0-judgment.ars
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Lets see what happens next..
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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...estigation.ars


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So, can we post articles now?
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I wouldn't.. until you get the all clear
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Yeah, I'd hesitate - because I saw an article last week that Associated Press (AP) has started a righthaven-like campaign.
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