Building handguns, registration, under 21, and other California debauchery...

[radioactivelego]

I'm 19 and I want kick ****** Cowboy revolvers in 45 Colt because they are cool. I also have no HSC.

If I buy one of these suckers and stick in one of these babies, what needs to be done?

[anotherone]

There's folks here who know a lot more about California gun laws than I do, but I'll briefly chime in here. Basically by purchasing a black powder revolver and then using a centerfire adaptor to turn it into a single action revolver you have committed three criminal acts:

1) Possession of an unregistered handgun
2) Possession of an unregistered handgun by a person under 21 years of age
3) Manufacture of an unsafe handgun

Yeah... California gun laws are ridiculously draconian. But I'd really reconsider your current course of action if you hope to be able to lawfully possess a firearm when you're 21 and old enough to buy a handgun (if any are still legal to buy at that time ).

[fun2none]

Don't you have to be 21+ to buy handgun ammunition in California ?

[hoffmang]

I think you will have manufactured an unsafe handgun which is a felony. Others will certainly jump in if I'm wrong.

-Gene

[leelaw]

1. Go get your HSC.
2. Ask your dad or mom (whomever will respond more positively) if they would front the purchase for you, then transfer the handgun into your name. (explain that this is perfectly legal, and you will cover all costs)

[radioactivelego]

Originally Posted by fun2none

Don't you have to be 21+ to buy handgun ammunition in California ?

My father reloads and I already have the equipment at hand, why not load up some cowboy loads?

[radioactivelego]

Originally Posted by hoffmang

I think you will have manufactured an unsafe handgun which is a felony. Others will certainly jump in if I'm wrong.

-Gene

I thought you could manufacture any handgun you want as long as you didn't sell it?

[fun2none]

Originally Posted by hoffmang

I think you will have manufactured an unsafe handgun which is a felony. Others will certainly jump in if I'm wrong.

-Gene

12133.(a) The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to a single-action revolver that has at least a 5-cartridge capacity with a barrel length of not less than three inches, and meets any of the following specifications:
(1) Was originally manufactured prior to 1900 and is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
(2) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least 7 1/2 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled.
(3) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least 7 1/2 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled and that is currently approved for importation into the United States pursuant to the provisions of paragraph (3) of subsection (d) of Section 925 of Title 18 of the United States Code.
(b) The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to a single-shot pistol with a barrel length of not less than six inches and that has an overall length of at least 10 1/2 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled.

[Pokey]

The set up you are talking about are not uncommon at CAS matches. Stages requiring reloads are uncommon but a pain (sloooow) with the conversion. The conversion itself is not illegal as far as I know but with your age it could be an issue. Why not have your parents buy it and let you use it until you are 21 then it's yours? BTW last I checked by the time you got the BP pistol and the conversion you could buy a decent SA revolver. Or you could just shoot CAS in the Black Powder division (it's a major kick in the butt shooting through the HUGE clouds smoke!).

[Pulsar]

Originally Posted by hoffmang

I think you will have manufactured an unsafe handgun which is a felony. Others will certainly jump in if I'm wrong.

-Gene

Then I would think there are a lot of people out there comming felonies by converting guns, like a .44 mag Desert Eagle to .50AE or a 1911 to .22LR.

It's not illegal to modify, but I don't think you can sell it.