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Old 09-05-2006, 09:55 PM
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Default When will Arnold sign AB2728?

He didnt sign it today. It would be great if he vetoed it and said in his Austrian accent, "YOU MUST ALLOW KALEEFORNIA'S GUN OWNERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REGISTER! Seecond Amendment rights will not be infringed!" Then he pulls out a shot gun and racks a round with one hand. Is Arnold busy writing his veto? Chances are small, but hey I can dream!
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:58 PM
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Whether or not he vetos AB2728 is almost really irrelevant. If he does sign it all it does is formalize the path the DOJ has already decided to take (not to list). It also reduces possession to a civil crime. Kinda almost makes you hope he will sign it...
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:59 PM
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He didnt sign it today. It would be great if he vetoed it and said in his Austrian accent, "YOU MUST ALLOW KALEEFORNIA'S GUN OWNERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REGISTER! Seecond Amendment rights will not be infringed!" Then he pulls out a shot gun and racks a round with one hand. Is Arnold busy writing his veto? Chances are small, but hey I can dream!
My guess is either...

a) he doesn't care and just won't sign it or just veto it
b) studying it vigorously and taking advice from other Repubs on this...
c) he will listen to his wife, and sign it
d) flips a coin to decide...hmm

I'd probably go with a or b. but you never know...
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Comming up with reasons to veto AB2728 is actually fairly easy. One could even argue they vetoed AB2728 to be "tough on Assault Weapons".
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Well! I PERSONALLY HOPE HE SIGNS IT!!!
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Whether or not he vetos AB2728 is almost really irrelevant. If he does sign it all it does is formalize the path the DOJ has already decided to take (not to list). It also reduces possession to a civil crime. Kinda almost makes you hope he will sign it...
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I know some of us like the "civil crime" concession by the DOJ. I suspect there is no way they can prosecute enough illegal AW owners to make a dent in the numbers of unregistered AWs. Add to that the fact that thousands more are coming into the state in the form of OLLs that guys are going to illegally configure. Will it come to the point that so many guys will be at the range shooting their AWs that NO ONE gives a hoot anymore? Or, will gun owners just hoard AWs in the dark corners of their safes, never to smell the sweet air of freedom? I've seen guys with OLL lower builds that have the Prince50 mag lock at the range many times. "It's the DOJs opinion that these are illegal" blah blah blah. No one says anything to these guys. Are we at that point now?

Most of us California gun owners, including myself, are total "Boyscouts" when it comes to following the laws. We will never commit any type of crime, even a "civil crime;" no matter how much we are tempted. We dont jaywalk or litter as some people have equated the new penalties for AW ownership. So for people like us, AB2728 really hurts. I want SB23 removed from the laws because it is unenforcable and violates our 2A rights.
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It is my understanding that if he does nothing 2728 becomes law. I'm with Ben. I'm hoping he signs it or does nothing and it becomes law.

Registering rifles by listing bans them from future import into California. That is not a long term good thing for gun rights in California.

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California gun rights are in real trouble when the gun nuts themselves are calling for more bans.
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California gun rights are in real trouble when the gun nuts themselves are calling for more bans.
Can you really blame gun nuts for jumping onto an opportunity to build a ton-load of registered AWs? Guess its selfish on some part, but I'm sure at least 90% of the new OLL owners would be happier if DOJ listed and they got AWs...
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Old 09-06-2006, 11:17 AM
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Can you really blame gun nuts for jumping onto an opportunity to build a ton-load of registered AWs?
I blame gun nuts for calling for new and expanded gun bans, whatever the reason, especially when they write to their representatives demanding them.

It's crazy.
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