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Old 09-05-2006, 06:49 PM
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Hi big brothers...

A while back I wrote a letter to DOJ about my "Double Star Lower" ... Here's their Response:


Letter is dated Aug 29, 2006

RE:Double Star Lower

Dear: Mr. Jesse

I am writing in responce to your letter dated July 13, 2006

The reciever in question is not listed and therefore available for sale in California. HOWEVER, for your protection, you should ensure that your firearm either: (1) does NOT have the capacity to accept a detachable magazine, or (2) does not have any of the features listed in Penal Code 12276.1(a)(1). I have attached a copy of that Penal Code section for you.

It is the DOJ's opinion that under current law, a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that is modified to be "temporarily incapable of accepting a detachable magazine, but can be restored to accomodate a dechable magazine, IS an assault weapon if it has any of the features listed in 12276.1(a)(1). Individuals who alter a firearm designed and intended to accept a detachable magazine in an attempt to make it incapable of accepting a dechable magazine do so at their legal peril.

Should you have any further questions, you may visit our website at www.ag.ca.gov/firearms or contact me at (916) 263-4882

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Okay.... what does the underlined stuff mean.... pinned magazine owners are screwed....?

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Old 09-05-2006, 07:01 PM
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Thats them just trying to put the scare in you

THere was a memo that said basically the same thing. Untill it becomes LAW, so long as you are LEGAL to the LETTER.... you are set

A memo is just a memo
a Law... is Law

Here is a link to the PDF memo im speaking of

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/AWpolicyrev4.pdf
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Old 09-05-2006, 07:20 PM
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Sorry about the spelling.. I was trying to type as quick as possible... once again, sorry but yeah... I sent this letter in early July and just got it today!!

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Old 09-05-2006, 08:00 PM
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Thats them just trying to put the scare in you

THere was a memo that said basically the same thing. Untill it becomes LAW, so long as you are LEGAL to the LETTER.... you are set

A memo is just a memo
a Law... is Law

Here is a link to the PDF memo im speaking of

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/AWpolicyrev4.pdf
Exactily, its just another "opinion". I can't wait until they actually try and make the fixed mags illegal...
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Very interesting! Might want to edit the DOJ persons name though
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Thanks Shane.... done....
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Old 09-05-2006, 08:54 PM
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Looks like they left out the fact that under current law, it says if it requires a tool to remove the magazine then you are not breaking any laws.
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:17 PM
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It is obvious how silly this mind game is getting since we have letters contradicting their views. This will definately look bad in the eyes of the judge when he/she sees the scare tactics/underground regulation of the DOJ.
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It is the DOJ's opinion that under current law, a semiautomatic centerfire rifle that is modified to be "temporarily incapable of accepting a detachable magazine, but can be restored to accomodate a dechable magazine, IS an assault weapon if it has any of the features listed in 12276.1(a)(1).
Wow, they can't even get the text of their own illegal position right.

http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/awdefnotice0606.html

Please forward a scan of a hardcopy to: DOJcomments@gmail.com , this is by people affiliated with Trutanich-Michel, LLP. A major pro 2A law firm I can personally recommend.
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Old 09-05-2006, 09:59 PM
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Default Okay..

As soon as I get tomorrow to work I'll forward it to "our" legal department... ... and yes... I felt as if the DOJ is already changing stuff around behind our backs..... they don't mention the "use of a tool" for removal of magazine and blah blah blah....etc......

When I foward it (Trutanich-Michel, LLP) ...do I leave it as is.....or do I erase my address and name..?

Jesse!

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