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Old 09-03-2006, 08:18 PM
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Californians have a right to keep and bear arms, no exceptions.

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Old 09-03-2006, 08:30 PM
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*Raises brow* Need more Talking, and less advertisement...
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Old 09-03-2006, 08:32 PM
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Art won't win but he's getting my vote,..voting third party is not throwing your vote away but voting for someone that you dont believe in is. Ahnold and Phil are both gun-banners and I wont supprort them.
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Old 09-03-2006, 08:42 PM
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well my trust for people in the state was flushed some time ago, so I really just stopped caring, I feel it goes negitive with whoever, this is a money state these days
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Old 09-04-2006, 06:59 AM
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I didn't think I would have to do too much talking as you guys know better than anyone that Arnold is anti-gun. He showed his true colors when he outlawed .50 guns which had never been used in a crime in California.

I see you guys are from Sacramento. I'm going to be up there in the next couple of weeks. Do you know of any pro gun speaking opportunities up there?
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:09 AM
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I didn't think I would have to do too much talking as you guys know better than anyone that Arnold is anti-gun. He showed his true colors when he outlawed .50 guns which had never been used in a crime in California.
I think the point he's making is that you joined CalGuns yesterday and your first post comes across as "Vote For Me!".

Besides, where's the info on your website regarding your position on gun control?

Simply saying that "Californians have a right to keep and bear arms, no exceptions." comes across as being a "safe" neutral statement. It doesn't really say much to me.

Tell me what you really think about California's firearms laws, their effect on the average everyday Joe Citizen, and what you'd do about it.

Where do you stand on the issue of CCW?

Do you know anything about the off-list lower situation and the actions the DOJ has been taking regarding it?

Are you aware of what had been going on with AB352, the microstamping legislation? How about AB2728?

Lots of other issues that I'm sure the CalGuns members would like to hear discussed, since you seem to be the first politician to openly venture onto our board.

I'm sure that there is potential to drum up quite a bit of grassroots supporters here.

BUT.....

If you want my vote, you're going to have to earn it.
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:26 AM
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::::::Sounds of crickets heard::::::::

Do ya think we scared him? Not many politicians are willing to answer questions like those, especially in writing....LOL! I'd Like to see a pro gun stance on his website.

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Old 09-04-2006, 09:27 AM
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since you say arnold is anti gun because of the .50 ban. he signed and that is history. unforntunately voting for you will not help us either. while i commend your commitment to our rights i cannot vote for you. the democratic opponent will win and we will lose our rights probably before his first term is out. this is not tinfoil hat just my opinion of the man.

i would love to see a true friend of gun owners in office i have to say my vote is for arnold. yes he has signed some bad laws and i can't forgive him for that but he will veto alot of bad bills that reach his desk. sorry Mr. Olivier i cannot vote for you considering what is at stake here in california. we are close to losing it all if angeledes gets elected with the current legislature in office.

good luck to you sir. and thanks for taking the time to talk to us.
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I would like to know what kind of experience this guy has in government. I looked over his site and I can't find anything stating that he has any experience at all. Mayor, Senator, Class President, Anything? He seems to have a lot of great ideas about how things should be in this state, but without an intimate knowledge of the inner workings of government and how to get things done it all amounts to nothing. More info and background would be great.
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Where do you stand on the issue of CCW?
Police Chiefs should to have a valid reason to keep citizens from obtaining a CCW such as a felony conviction.

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Do you know anything about the off-list lower situation and the actions the DOJ has been taking regarding it?
I would not sign any legislation banning additional AR-type lowers. The DOJ confiscating lowers for improper storage is skirting the law.
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Are you aware of what had been going on with AB352, the microstamping legislation?
I don’t think most criminals go to their local Wal-mart to buy their guns, but if they did, I’m sure they would not leave the microstamping on their weapon.

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How about AB2728?
AB 2728 is an open invitation for the DOJ to shake down retailers. The Author, Assemblyman Klehs, believes that reducing the availability of guns and ammunition will decrease violence, not that there is a fundamental problem with the licensing of gun dealers.
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