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Old 02-01-2011, 1:19 AM
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Found an interesting quote from the judge that repealed of Obamacare today.

"Regardless of how laudable its attempts may have been to accomplish these goals in passing the act, Congress must operate within the bounds established by the Constitution," Vinson, who was appointed to the bench by Republican President Ronald Reagan, ruled.

Let's hope this can get applied to Cali gun laws after the McDonald decision.
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Old 02-01-2011, 1:44 AM
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They'd knowingly and willingly still pass everything regardless if its unconstitutional.
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Old 02-01-2011, 1:48 AM
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I would have to agree with you Joe. Wish we could get a law passed that states our legislature can not attempt to enact illegal laws. I know it seems simple, and I'm probably missing something there.
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How about a law stating that if an elected official drafts an unconstitutional law he/she gets thrown out of office. Or at least be barred from drafting any other bill for the balance of that term.
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How about an amendment that states: "Any elected official who authors, votes for, or signs into law, any legislation that the courts determine to be unconstitutional, is inelegible for re-election to that position or election to any other position."

It would certainly make them think more carefully before they passed anything that even might be unconstitutional.
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Found an interesting quote from the judge that repealed of Obamacare today.

"Regardless of how laudable its attempts may have been to accomplish these goals in passing the act, Congress must operate within the bounds established by the Constitution," Vinson, who was appointed to the bench by Republican President Ronald Reagan, ruled.

Let's hope this can get applied to Cali gun laws after the McDonald decision.
Now, if only he had added that the courts must operate within the bounds of the Constitution, we might have some interesting opinions when this reaches SCOTUS.
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Old 02-01-2011, 8:15 AM
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Default The White House's response is disgusting

Despite the fact that it raised serious questions of being unconsititional all along they went ahead and did it anyway.
If the Constitution is the law of the land and our esteemed leadership violates the law then why are they not censured, punished or otherwise made to feel the effects of their wrongdoings?
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Old 02-01-2011, 8:19 AM
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Why is there no lawsuit on behalf of the American Taxpayer against those who proposed and voted this reform/scam through ? The costs of getting even this far are staggering
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Old 02-01-2011, 9:20 AM
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Despite the fact that it raised serious questions of being unconsititional all along they went ahead and did it anyway.
If the Constitution is the law of the land and our esteemed leadership violates the law then why are they not censured, punished or otherwise made to feel the effects of their wrongdoings?
Because bit by bit they've eroded our rights to the point where we're used to it. Also, we keep voting them in despite their worst violations and acts of moral depravity against we the people.

Look to Barbie Boxer, she's voted in for a 4th term, or to Nancy Pelosi, who they keep voting in regardless of the fact that she's only held together by her plastic surgery at this point.
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Old 02-01-2011, 9:42 AM
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How about an amendment that states: "Any elected official who authors, votes for, or signs into law, any legislation that the courts determine to be unconstitutional, is inelegible for re-election to that position or election to any other position."

It would certainly make them think more carefully before they passed anything that even might be unconstitutional.


THATS 1 HECK OF AN IDEA!!!
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Trying to find the 2A or RKBA content in this thread, but it's just not there.
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Getting the California leftislature (mis-spelling on purpose) to pass a law like that would be like getting a violent crimminal to sign off on your CCW permit!
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