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Old 01-27-2011, 11:43 PM
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Default Has ANYONE received their Front Sight "Diamond" yet from the recent "SALE"? SCAM?

I am beginning to think this was a scam, it's been over a month and I'm getting nothing from FS or the person supposedly authorised to sell these memberships except "soon".
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Old 01-27-2011, 11:47 PM
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they always said not till feb

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Old 01-27-2011, 11:50 PM
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I was at Front Sight last week, there were at least 2 students that said they were using their new Diamond Membership to attend. They even commented they didnt have the actual membership card yet, but Front Sight still allowed them to attend the 4day course.

It will take probably a couple weeks to get the actual memberships still, its likely the 'sellers' had to claim the number they sold, send in the money, to be verified by Front Sight staff, then FS would send the 'sellers' the packets for them to give to 'you the buyer'. (no i wasn't one of the sellers)

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This email was sent out by Front Sight last Friday.


Dr. Ignatius Piazza

Friday, January 21, 2011

Dear Lifetime Member,

We continue to work around the clock to process all your orders from my Amazing Year End Surprise Bonus so we can get your documentation in the mail to you as soon as possible.

We are making very good progress and I estimate we will have all the documents in the mail by the 10th of February.

PLEASE, be patient knowing we are working as rapidly as possible.

(As soon as we determine who the winner of the Signature Front Sight / Fort Knox Safe and 2011 Founder's Award is, I will make the announcement!)

Here is what YOU can do to help us process all orders as fast as possible:

1. PLEASE Do Not Call or E-mail Us asking to assign memberships UNTIL you have your paperwork in hand. Until we send you the documentation and you have it in hand, we have not placed the information into your account, so calling or e-mailing us will simply waste your time and ours and delay the overall process. Every time you call us to ask about your order, it just delays us that much more. Rest assured we are moving very quickly to get all the orders processed and delivered.

2. PLEASE Do Not Call or E-mail the Pro Shop about your gun deliveries UNTIL you have your paperwork in hand and then simply follow the directions in the documents to the letter for a smooth delivery process.

3. PLEASE Do Not Advertise Memberships in ANY public media (Internet forums, chat rooms, classifieds, newspapers, bulletin boards, flyers, etc.) as you know it is restricted. If you do so, others members see it and immediately call us complaining about what you are doing and we are then taken off our tasks of processing everything to deal with the violation of the NO PUBLIC MEDIA Advertising Policy.

4. PLEASE Do Not Solicit Front Sight Students at Front Sight courses or on the Front Sight Member's Forum to Purchase YOUR Memberships. Remember, I gave you this Amazing Year-End Surprise Bonus to Thank You for your support and to give you a way to help your family, friends and members of YOUR community become Front Sight Lifetime Members. We did this to positively change the image of gun ownership even faster! This means you are to go out and find us NEW members from your community, NOT sell your memberships to students and members we have already brought to Front Sight. Please keep the intent of our purpose in mind at all times.

So to summarize:

THANK YOU!

Front Sight staff, students and members comprise an unbelievably patriotic, purpose-based organization that just got MUCH bigger!

WELL DONE!

Please be patient as we process your orders and mail your documentation. All documents should be in the mail by February 10, if we are not delayed further by people continuing to call us, asking when we will be sending out the documents.

And please follow the directions in the documentation you receive, to the letter, for the most efficient delivery.

Again, Thank you for your amazing response!

Sincerely,

Dr. Ignatius Piazza
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Old 01-27-2011, 11:56 PM
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hmmm; Rule #3 is quite interesting
lalalalalalalalala

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Old 01-28-2011, 5:48 AM
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The guy I bought from sent me that same email. It takes time to process 13k+ memberships.
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i sold 12 of them..still waiting for my paperwork too
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they always said not till feb

chill
They always said "couple more days" to me... (FS's office and the person I bought them from, they never said February.... ) I'm chilling now... just had to be a bit dramatic to get a little attention drawn to this!
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They always said "couple more days" to me... (FS's office and the person I bought them from, they never said February.... ) I'm chilling now... just had to be a bit dramatic to get a little attention drawn to this!
Really? . . . You couldn't just post up the question?
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I am beginning to think this was a scam, it's been over a month and I'm getting nothing from FS or the person supposedly authorised to sell these memberships except "soon".
I got the 8 memberships I bought. My brother got his too.
You're the only one that got scammed!
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Old 01-29-2011, 12:38 AM
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Default my dads exp with FS

Dad's a diamond member
was supposed to receive the mossberg 590, an ar-15 and the xd, and then another xd, as he upgraded from first family to diamond

first family exp
fine,
took a few months to get the xd but other than that fine

diamond
a month to get the card
2nd xd took about another month
about 4 months to get the shotgun (590)
never got the ar cause he lives in CA...made a deal with them, find an ar-15 that is CA compliant, they'll pay for it and he'll make up the difference...they refused to tell him how much they would officially pay...wtf? so after a lot of phone calls, no answers he made an agreement with management that he would say F the ar-15 since they refused to deal with the bullet button or give him a price quote , and he would trade in the ar-15 for a benelli shotgun and he would make up the difference, suddenly they had a price quote for this item...

two months later he was supposed to receive the benelli, it never came, he contacted FS. shotgun was shipped, delivered, and confirmed. Management then figures out oops they sent it to the wrong address...

they will not do anything to remedy the situation other than attempt to reacquire the shotgun from the wrong addressee' and then send it to him...

Front Sight awesome training, absolute crap bureaucracy with obviously more law suits on the horizon.
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Says it best
Yes it does!

I am surprised though, most of the 265 waiting for membershipsbought from me are just hangin loose. I think I have only got a half dozen emails and a couple of phone calls from buyers wiondering if i had heard anything yet.

For some reason, I dont get FS emails anymore, so i didnt get the ione posted above. I really should fix that. I think I will send it to all my people right now.

I wonder who won that damn safe!!!
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never got the ar cause he lives in CA...made a deal with them, find an ar-15 that is CA compliant, they'll pay for it and he'll make up the difference...they refused to tell him how much they would officially pay...wtf? so after a lot of phone calls, no answers he made an agreement with management that he would say F the ar-15 since they refused to deal with the bullet button or give him a price quote , and he would trade in the ar-15 for a benelli shotgun and he would make up the difference, suddenly they had a price quote for this item...
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wow, that sucks. I wonder if he could have just had it sent to a middleman FFL, had them califonicate it for him, and then send it to his CA FFL?
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I have had no complaints on the 863 that I sold, guess my customers are patient....for now.
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American stormed the beaches of Normandy, not Europeans. Americans invented the airplane, personal computer, telephone, radio, TV, GPS, the DVR, automatic transmission, laser, and f'ing bubble gum. EUROPEANS DIDN"T. So until you asshats start providing the world with more innovation than Americans do how about you STFU about us?
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Hey snypr, I love your signature, but Lone_Gunman's statement isn't completely accurate. For example, Marconi was the Italian inventor of the radio (some say it was Tesla, a Croat), Baird was the Scot who invented the TV (b&w and color), and Bell was also a Scot.


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Hey snypr, I love your signature, but Lone_Gunman's statement isn't completely accurate. For example, Marconi was the Italian inventor of the radio (some say it was Tesla, a Croat), Baird was the Scot who invented the TV (b&w and color), and Bell was also a Scot.


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And Brits also stormed the beaches of Normandy
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^ as did the Canadians
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^ as did the Canadians
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We just came back my wife and son are $250 Diamond members. It's no bull.. Anyone who wants to do this type of training missed out for $250!
*That's not to say they won't close tomorrow! We hope to make two more visits before they close for summer*

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Dude, if thats you in your avatar...you look remarkably like...whats that guys name...you know...that clown in the oval office.....Ill think of it...

Congrats on your FS Lifetime membership purchase. It was a smart move. If the place closed tomrrow, you have already got your monies worth. But, I doubt its going anywhere anytime soon..I think its just now kicking into high gear.

There is a lot riding on FS's success...like the economy in Nye Couty/Pahrump for example.

Also, they really only close for about a month cause no one wants to roast in August. July is night classes which i think Im going to do this year.
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Dude, if thats you in your avatar...you look remarkably like...whats that guys name...you know...that clown in the oval office.....Ill think of it...

Congrats on your FS Lifetime membership purchase. It was a smart move. If the place closed tomrrow, you have already got your monies worth. But, I doubt its going anywhere anytime soon..I think its just now kicking into high gear.

There is a lot riding on FS's success...like the economy in Nye Couty/Pahrump for example.

Also, they really only close for about a month cause no one wants to roast in August. July is night classes which i think Im going to do this year.
Thank you I agree and I don't think it's going anywhere too soon ether. I joined a few weeks before the $250 memberships so I paid $2000. I've procrastinating for years because my folks have had a place out there since the 80's. Pahrump in the 80's was really nice when mostly ranchers were living there. This last week I pulled out of my old mans condo and the little teenage brats across the street flipped us off. The ranchers or their kids would never have done that even if they couldn't stand you. Things have changed.
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Looks like the winner of the safe sold 288, MP301 was that you?
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FYI...Just received this. What are the chances he'll be offering Diamond Memberships at $250 to the open public on Monday, after getting everything out on Saturday?



Dr. Ignatius Piazza
Thursday, February 3, 2011

Dear Jason,

Watch your e-mail on Monday for an amazing surprise I have for you. A surprise that is greater than anything I have ever done for you.

This e-mail is simply to alert you to look for it.

Don't miss opening an e-mail from me that has your name in the subject line.

It will be delivered via e-mail on Monday, February 7.

You are going to be floored by it!

I promise it will be astounding.

Sincerely,

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Looks like the winner of the safe sold 288, MP301 was that you?
Why yes, it was me! Im a pretty happy about it too....
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FYI...Just received this. What are the chances he'll be offering Diamond Memberships at $250 to the open public on Monday, after getting everything out on Saturday?



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Dear Jason,

Watch your e-mail on Monday for an amazing surprise I have for you. A surprise that is greater than anything I have ever done for you.

This e-mail is simply to alert you to look for it.

Don't miss opening an e-mail from me that has your name in the subject line.

It will be delivered via e-mail on Monday, February 7.

You are going to be floored by it!

I promise it will be astounding.

Sincerely,

Dr. Ignatius Piazza
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Im sure wondering what the hell he has up his sleeve this time! Please post it here when you get it monday....
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Why yes, it was me! Im a pretty happy about it too....
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I got the same "look out for this ginormous offer email" as well. We shall see...
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Why yes, it was me! Im a pretty happy about it too....
Right On and Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don't get yourself banned!!

Im waiting for the packet, the email updates are always posted in the update thread too...not to mention I've answered your PM's every time. if you'r permabanned send me an email so we don't lose contact!!

I have(at least some of) your info stored so if I don't hear back I'll Attempt to track you down.
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LOL.... congrats MP301!

So much for those so called orders of 600 at a time, etc!
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LOL.... congrats MP301!

So much for those so called orders of 600 at a time, etc!
Rumors of my demise were grossly over exaggerated?
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Im sure wondering what the hell he has up his sleeve this time! Please post it here when you get it monday....
No worries. I'll post it as soon as it arrives. My money is on $250 Diamond Memberships but who knows! Gotta love it!
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Ummmm.... LOL

Dear Matthew ,

Watch your e-mail on Monday for an amazing surprise I have for you. A surprise that is greater than anything I have ever done for you.

Here is a nostalgic hint from an era when everyone understood that firearms in the hands of citizens insured liberty and freedom for all. Enjoy this cute, little hint of my amazing surprise for you.

Don't miss opening an e-mail from me that has your name in the subject line.

It will be delivered via e-mail on Monday, February 7.

You are going to be floored by it!

I promise it will be astounding.

Sincerely,

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Old 02-04-2011, 5:45 PM
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Friday, February 4, 2011

Dear Jason,

Watch your e-mail on Monday for an amazing surprise I have for you. A surprise that is greater than anything I have ever done for you.

Here is a nostalgic hint from an era when everyone understood that firearms in the hands of citizens insured liberty and freedom for all. Enjoy this cute, little hint of my amazing surprise for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOUzQ...e_gdata_player

Don't miss opening an e-mail from me that has your name in the subject line.

It will be delivered via e-mail on Monday, February 7.

You are going to be floored by it!

I promise it will be astounding.

Sincerely,

Dr. Ignatius Piazza
Founder and Director
Front Sight Firearms Training Institute
7975 Cameron Drive, #900
Windsor, CA 95492
http://www.frontsight.com
info@frontsight.com
1.800.987.7719

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Originally Posted by Hookalakupua View Post
Now this!

Friday, February 4, 2011

Dear Jason,

Watch your e-mail on Monday for an amazing surprise I have for you. A surprise that is greater than anything I have ever done for you.

Here is a nostalgic hint from an era when everyone understood that firearms in the hands of citizens insured liberty and freedom for all. Enjoy this cute, little hint of my amazing surprise for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOUzQ...e_gdata_player

Don't miss opening an e-mail from me that has your name in the subject line.

It will be delivered via e-mail on Monday, February 7.

You are going to be floored by it!

I promise it will be astounding.

Sincerely,

Dr. Ignatius Piazza
Founder and Director
Front Sight Firearms Training Institute
7975 Cameron Drive, #900
Windsor, CA 95492
http://www.frontsight.com
info@frontsight.com
1.800.987.7719
Maybe im just slow, but that hint is no help to me whatsoever!
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