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Old 08-26-2017, 10:26 PM
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Default Registered RAW from 2000 as 50 BMG

If one has a SB-23 RAW, registered back in 2000, is it legal to put a 50 BMG upper on it?

I have seen conflicting, or at least confusing, information on this and I am wondering if there is a consensus on whether this would be legal at this point.
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Old 08-26-2017, 11:02 PM
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This question was asked when the 50BMG ban was announced.

Some RAW owners even tried to re-register their RAWs as 50BMG AWs. CA DOJ denied those requests saying the SB23 registered AWs when already good to go.

But I'm sure some overly cautious folks will claim otherwise.
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Old 08-26-2017, 11:19 PM
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It's a great question and no one from CA DOJ would ever answer that in writing.

As your original RAW might have been registered in different calibers and barrels lengths, it make for common sense that one of the ferret uppers could be legally installed.....

As they say what you cannot do, not what you can do.... are you willing to be a test case
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Old 08-26-2017, 11:37 PM
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So that would mean the 2017 RAW's would be able to do 50 also right?
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Old 08-27-2017, 1:47 AM
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^^^^ No
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Old 08-27-2017, 2:27 PM
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So that would mean the 2017 RAW's would be able to do 50 also right?
Nope.
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Old 08-27-2017, 10:10 PM
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It is annoying we can't get a straight answer from the CA DOJ.
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Old 08-27-2017, 10:17 PM
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The law is written so poorly.... it had to be a legal configuration in 2016 to be able to be registered.... so 50 big is out...



But once registered their appears to be multiple levels of RAWs....

The original roberti roos
The later CA ban circa 2000
The later 50 bmg rifle ban

And now this bullet button ban....


Then we had the gang member with a gun law- 5 year enhancement
The committing a robbery, burgulary 10 year enhancement
The physical assault 25 year enhancement
The stealing a gun 10 year enhancement


Oh wait.those don't happen
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Old 08-28-2017, 8:01 PM
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Are 50 BMG rifles considered Registered Assault Weapons, or some other class?

If 50 BMG is just another attribute that makes a RAW it would seem that if you already had a registered assault weapon in 2000 that nothing changes if you add a 50 BMG upper. Which is what I think Sniper3142 is getting at.

To keep it as simple as possible I'm only asking about RAWs from 2000, not the new round of registration.
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Are 50 BMG rifles considered Registered Assault Weapons, or some other class?
.50BMG Rifles are another class.

But, RAWs can be chambered in .50BMG as long as they were registered before 01-01-2001. (when they were banned as assault weapons, not .50BMG rifles)
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Nope.
Your understanding of the law has clout to it( not being a smart *** at all here by the way).A simply nope just leaves questions. My logic and I know logic and doj don't go hand in hand is that if previously RAW's are able to run 50's on them then the new ones should be able to also. A RAW is a RAW. If the 50 ban is in fact it's own registration then neither 2000 or 2017 RAW's should be able run 50's.

The only way I can see doj serving up a big bowl of dicks to the 2017 registers is that ban happened after the 50 ban and that will be their dumb *** reasoning.
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I was typing when u posted that last post Quiet. Belay my last
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