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Old 01-20-2011, 3:34 PM
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Default How convoluted is this thought process- Arizona Shooting and CCW

Arizona Aftermath: Permit-Free Carry Law Prevented Law Enforcement From Having an Opportunity to Stop Jared Loughner From Carrying a Gun, Says Mayors Against Illegal Guns

Being denied for a CCW would have really prevented him from doing this....
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Old 01-20-2011, 4:28 PM
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Consider the source.
Coyote Point Armory
341 Beach Road
Burlingame CA 94010
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Old 01-20-2011, 4:38 PM
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OMG really?

Some people will just never get it.
"Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool that follows him?"-Obi Wan Kenobi

the question here is not whether the carrying of arms is a good idea—the question is
whether carrying arms is constitutionally protected. Objective standards and due process—not
Defendants’ philosophy or personal beliefs about the value of this activity—must carry the day-Alan Gura
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Old 01-20-2011, 4:44 PM
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So if there was a law against concealed carry he would have obeyed that law, but somehow he didn't want to obey the even STRICTER law against shooting other people?

Is someone who has decided to ignore the law against killing other people REALLY EXPECTED to obey a law against concealed carry???? If so, perhaps our country is further gone that we realize.
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Old 01-20-2011, 4:46 PM
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Yes, even though he planned on killing as many people as possable, the prospect of a misdemeanor for carrying concealed without a permit would surely have stopped him from bringing his gun.
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Old 01-20-2011, 5:05 PM
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Same logic as banning hanguns and thinking this will stop gang shootings.Just ask the experts, DC and Chicago.
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Old 01-20-2011, 5:52 PM
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What a crock of BS! Yeah all the laws they have now stop all the criminals don't they. Hell since we have laws too stop criminal activity I guess we don't need cops.
Using gun control to stop crime is like trying to put out a fire with gasoline!
You don't have to get permission to exercise a RIGHT. If you have to get permission or can be told no by the government it is no longer a right. IT IS A PRIVILEGE!
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Old 01-20-2011, 6:01 PM
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You'd think they would just make a law against shooting people and this whole thing would be over with, no more people would ever get shot. I don't know why I have to think of all these brilliant ideas for everyone /s

At the same time we should make a law making it illegal to make less than $150k a year to fix the economy. I'm on a roll here!

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Old 01-20-2011, 8:01 PM
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Too bad the law against killing people didn't work. Funny how they never apply the same reasoning when it involves something they'd prefer
‘‘Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? ... If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?’’

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Old 01-20-2011, 8:10 PM
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Yeah, like Arizona is the only state where nutjobs open fire at random people. Right, Mayor Bloomberg?
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