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Old 01-15-2011, 6:15 PM
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I am trying to get information on bug out bags. The makes and models I can find in my local area at reasonable prices are Sanpiper of California Bug Out Bag around 2800 cuin expanded $69, 5.11 24 hour bag $99 and 5.11 72 hour bag $125, finally Camelback packs which have an internal water bladder in sizes from 2800 to 3200 cuin $149 to $199. There are also various recreational back packs sold at various stores, however; most do not appear heavy duty. I would appreaciate if anyone who may have experience with any of these packs, good or bad, could give me a heads up on their expereiences.
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i recomend "The Pack" from Spec Ops Gear. i have it and use it all the time very good quality and sturdy.

http://specopsbrand.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductID=12

it's not cheap by any means but worth the money IMO.
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i recomend "The Pack" from Spec Ops Gear. i have it and use it all the time very good quality and sturdy.

http://specopsbrand.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductID=12

it's not cheap by any means but worth the money IMO.
That bag looks pretty tight!! If I were gonna spend that much money on a bag I would probably get http://www.opticsplanet.net/tac-forc...ck-s86129.html your rifle will ride in the bag hidden.
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Osprey Kestryl 48.
Hols plenty of gear, looks like your average backpack.
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Go to www.countycomm.com they got the good stuff.
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i have a 5.11 nice three day aussault pack but way over priced the condor three day assaults are cheap and actually better than the 5.11 packs i think
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I used to be pack junkie until i found thepack that i needed and trimmed it down to three models. I now have: Sand Piper/Bugout gear, Camelbak, and Maxpedition. From the choices you mentioned in your post above. If the money permits i would go for the the Camelpak motherlode or the Trizip.
My bug out bag is the SandPiper though. Its milspec tough with just a tad hint of tactical touch. I got it right out of basic training and it's been my bugout/travel/camping pack since then. It's only $69 so I don't hesitate to abuse it, and to my surprise it held up to everything I do with it. It's expandable so it conforms to your need. It can also transform to a shoulder carried luggage in case you need a more business like bag. And you can actually put a large water bladder on the space where you stow the shoulder strap. And did I mention it's only $69!? Best bang for the buck!
I switch between the Camelbak Hawg/Mule and the Maxpediton as my EDC bag and my work bag. I can't complain with either of them. There reputation speak for themselves. I used to have the Motherlode as my bug out gear but I sold it because it looks too tactical, I don't wont to look tactical when I bug out. The more you blend it with the "environment" the less you stand out, and the bigger chance of evasion when you need to. I like the Tri-Zip though looks like ordinary hiking pack. I'm so tempted to buy one right now, it's just expensive, IMHO.
The 5.11 24 doesn't have the waist belt/strap, and thats a no no for me. Having a waist starp is big convenience for me specially when doing 15 - 20m humps. The 72 5.11 would have been a good pack, its the weird configuration of the external compartment that turned me off.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again...THIS is the pack you need for a budget. I have several and LOVE them. The description doesn't say but it has a internal pouch for a water bladder as well.

http://www.lapolicegear.com/diplomat...backpack1.html
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Medium ALICE packs can be found on eBay for under $20.00
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I've said it before and I'll say it again...THIS is the pack you need for a budget. I have several and LOVE them. The description doesn't say but it has a internal pouch for a water bladder as well.

http://www.lapolicegear.com/diplomat...backpack1.html
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Medium ALICE packs can be found on eBay for under $20.00
yep that is a vefry good pack. i have one that is over 20yrs old. and i use it for hunting all the time. i have strapped half a deer to it and no issues. great pack and the price you can't beat it. i also use one for duck hunting as well.


and "The Pack" also allows the use of a bladder inside also. it's not mentioned on the site also.
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That bag looks pretty tight!! If I were gonna spend that much money on a bag I would probably get http://www.opticsplanet.net/tac-forc...ck-s86129.html your rifle will ride in the bag hidden.
"15353 Cu. in. cargo capacity."

WOW!!! I may actually pick one of these up someday.

I personally use a Maxpedition Vulture II as a primary GHB/BOB, and a LAPG 3 day bag in my secondary vehicle. The LAPG bag is REALLY hard to beat for the price.
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I have a medium and a large ALICE to choose from.
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I have one of those LAPG bags and they are a great value.

However, my BOB is a large, normal looking backpack. I think in a SHTF situation you want to look as average and unassuming as possible. Especially if the scenario is a terrorist attack or anything involving another country's military, it would be wise not to draw the attention of overzealous police, natl guard, even other citizens by appearing too tactical. Just some food for thought.
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I use the MountainSmith Travel Trunk Large

http://www.mountainsmith.com/product...bCategory2Id=0


Never had a problem with them, heavy duty. Mine currently hold 209 lbs of kit each.
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The Voodoo 3 day packs are nice! Comfortable too.
3-Day Assault Pack

I also keep various small, medium and large ALICE packs ready to go. The only bad thing about ALICE packs is that they are not very hydration bladder friendly.
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I got a Maxpedition Vulture II for Christmas, and it appears to be a really well-made bag. Very comfortable to wear with a decent load, although I suspect a bag with a frame would be a bit better.
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I got a Maxpedition Vulture II for Christmas, and it appears to be a really well-made bag. Very comfortable to wear with a decent load, although I suspect a bag with a frame would be a bit better.
Im stuck between the vulture II and the Condor II. I have The kodiak and got rid of my Sitka because it was a little too small. I love the Kodiak, but when its full, the single strap bugs my shoulder after a while.
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Im stuck between the vulture II and the Condor II. I have The kodiak and got rid of my Sitka because it was a little too small. I love the Kodiak, but when its full, the single strap bugs my shoulder after a while.
A friend and I were both debating between the Vulture II and the Condor II. I ended up ordering the Vulture II, and my friend ordered the Condor II.

After both of us received our bags, we realized that the condor was significantly smaller than we expected. The near 900 cubic inch difference between the two of these bags really shows. If you are dead set on the styling of the Condor II, I would highly recommend the LAPG 3 day bag. It is very similar to the Condor II, with the exception of the added organizational pouches that the Condor features, but with MUCH more capacity. The build quality of the LAPG appears to be right on par with Maxpedition.

That being said, I have completely decked out my Vulture II with the Maxpedition 10 x 4 bottle holder, large tactile pouch, and a generic bottle holder from eBay. I am at the point where my bag is almost completely packed to capacity. I don't think I would settle for anything less with regards to capacity.
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I agree with you 100%. I wouldn't buy a pack in OD Green or Coyote Tan for this reason. In my mind black doesn't stand out at all. Seems to be about the most common color for daypacks. One of the black LAPG packs, I use as my as my all around day pack. Take it to the store, the swapmeet, etc. I won't ever get a second look. Now, in a SHTF senario I don't believe a "Normal" looking person with it would get a second glance either. IF you look NORMAL. I think that's the key. If you are looking totally prepped....you stand out.



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However, my BOB is a large, normal looking backpack. I think in a SHTF situation you want to look as average and unassuming as possible. Especially if the scenario is a terrorist attack or anything involving another country's military, it would be wise not to draw the attention of overzealous police, natl guard, even other citizens by appearing too tactical. Just some food for thought.
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You can also get pretty good deals at your local Army/Navy surplus store also. They usually have a pretty good selection.
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These guys have some cool bags as well. just a little pricey.

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I also keep various small, medium and large ALICE packs ready to go. The only bad thing about ALICE packs is that they are not very hydration bladder friendly.
no they are not.but i make mine work just be creative that's all.
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Hi All
Thanks to all of the Calgunners whom gave their advice and experiences on the BOB subject. For the present, I think I am going with the LAPG bag and the Condor tactical medium modular assault pack to maintain my budget (2 each). I may upgrade later as funds permit. I will also look at the Alice medium and large packs when I find an example at a local surplus store. I am still open to suggestions if there are any others.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again...THIS is the pack you need for a budget. I have several and LOVE them. The description doesn't say but it has a internal pouch for a water bladder as well.

http://www.lapolicegear.com/diplomat...backpack1.html
Thanks for the link! I ordered four of them and they arrived yesterday. They're good, solid packs for the money. Now everyone in the family has a good 72-hour bag.
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These guys have some cool bags as well. just a little pricey.

http://www.eberlestock.com/index.htm

2x. I have the gunslinger model. There's nothing on this pack that spells WEAK. Very very well built.
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A friend and I were both debating between the Vulture II and the Condor II. I ended up ordering the Vulture II, and my friend ordered the Condor II.

After both of us received our bags, we realized that the condor was significantly smaller than we expected. The near 900 cubic inch difference between the two of these bags really shows. If you are dead set on the styling of the Condor II, I would highly recommend the LAPG 3 day bag. It is very similar to the Condor II, with the exception of the added organizational pouches that the Condor features, but with MUCH more capacity. The build quality of the LAPG appears to be right on par with Maxpedition.

That being said, I have completely decked out my Vulture II with the Maxpedition 10 x 4 bottle holder, large tactile pouch, and a generic bottle holder from eBay. I am at the point where my bag is almost completely packed to capacity. I don't think I would settle for anything less with regards to capacity.
I agree with you on the size thing. I recently checked out the maxpedition booth at Shot show and all the bags are much smaller than they appear. The condor II looks huge in pictures, but it seems to be smaller than my jansport I used for school. After seeing and handling the the maxpedition bags, I am leaning more towards the Vulture II and the Doppelduffel.

As far as inconspicuous bags go, 5.11 has a new line of bags coming out that appear to be a normal school pack, but have all the goodies and storage you would expect from a tactical bag.
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The Condor 3-day pack is huge and great if you're on a budget IMO, taken mine out on a few hikes fully loaded and it never left me with sore spots.
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