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Old 01-09-2011, 6:40 PM
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have a coyote problem... Cant decide on whether to use my WInchester Model 1876 .45-75 or my M91/30 Mosin nagant... hard choice. what would you choose and WHY?

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Mosin, or let me come up and we can shwack em with my AR's LOL
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A 22lr will drop a yote
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HAHA orrr..... my AR, AK47, .22, or 12 gauge... and Soul, a .22 will stop one? no way...
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I was just watching a stop-motion animated version of Peter and the Wolf the other night on PBS and the wolf hunters were using a scoped Mosin-Nagant. So it should be good for coyotes too.
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Interesting. And our coyote is veryyy skinny and desperate. wouldnt be surprised if a paintball gun would drop him
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id go with a mosin and blow a big hole in it.
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45-75? That ammo must be expensive!!!
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throw on a big ten gallon hat, chaps and boots,

Start talking like a cowboy..."Weeyulll pahdna, I got me a prublem with some of them there coyotes. Yup, gonna fix my prublem."

Grab your trusty winchester 45-75 and clack right on out your cabin door.
and shoot you some of them there yotes.
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i'd leave the wildlife alone. maybe that's just me now, unfortunately.
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Where oh where is procoyotehunter and his unissued M1 Garands when we need him....
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i'd leave the wildlife alone. maybe that's just me now, unfortunately.
took 3 chickens and a rabbit... sorry but, too late to be nice
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HAHA orrr..... my AR, AK47, .22, or 12 gauge... and Soul, a .22 will stop one? no way...

Ive shot alot of coyotes with a 22lr. at under 50yds they do just fine. the last two I shot were with a 17mach2. one through the base of the skull, and the other through the lungs. neither took more than one step after the shot. they are just small dogs, if they are hit right they are done. DR
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i'd leave the wildlife alone. maybe that's just me now, unfortunately.
Yeah me too.
But if you have to dispatch one, I would grab the mosin.
Seems the quickest and if it's good enough for Nazi hunting it's good enough for coyote hunting.
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Nazi hunting? The German's killed 4 Russians to every one they lost. Probably not the best analogy.
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use the 73 and blow the coyote in half!!!
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Default Neither is optimal, but either would do.

I think light, fast and flat-shooting is the way to go with varmints, but you've outlined the choice. You don't say how long your '76 is (carbine? musket?).


Mosin-Nagant:

+
Ammo abundant;
Better long-range trajectory;
No worries if the rifle gets dinged up in the brush;

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Slower follow-on shots (practical difference probably negligible given the recoil of the .45/75, though);
Sights not designed for close-in, quick moving game;
Excessive bulk and length;


Winchester:

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Faster lever-action (again, probably offset by the recoil factor);
Possibly handier weapon (if it's a carbine);
Possibly better sights (I don't know about the '76, but the '94s have that buckhorn sight that's good for moving targets);
Cowboy cool factor;

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Ammo rare and expensive (you could come up with some light loads if you roll your own, though I am led to understand that the '76 action is none too strong for smokeless powder. Are you limited to BP?);
Possibly rare and expensive gun you wouldn't want banging around in the back of the pickup all day;
.45/75 is basically a short-range big-game number, with few advantages for varmints.

Overall, advantage: Mosin-Nagant. It's the utilitarian choice, cheap, rugged, easy to feed. It's bulky, heavy and over-powered, but you have the advantage of long-range fire, at least.

You really should just use the shotgun...
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Nazi hunting? The German's killed 4 Russians to every one they lost. Probably not the best analogy.
That is true. No wonder Nazi Germany won the war....oh wait.

Just because more Soviets died than Nazis doesn't mean they didn't hunt Nazis.
There were also way more Russians than Germans available to die.
64% of Germany's military were killed.
65% of Russia's military were killed.

This shows indeed that the Nazis clearly fought more effectively since Russian had more people total and couldn't use it to cause the Germans to have a higher casualty rate.
But they still fought and they were on the winning team.
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Back in the 50's my great uncle dropped a bull elk with a 22 short pistol... It was breaking into the hay barn on the family farm in CO. Respect the 22 it has killed just about every form of life out there.
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Interesting. And our coyote is veryyy skinny and desperate. wouldnt be surprised if a paintball gun would drop him
Capture him, feed him, make a friend out of him...




...then train him to assassinate other coyotes.

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Ive shot alot of coyotes with a 22lr. at under 50yds they do just fine. the last two I shot were with a 17mach2. one through the base of the skull, and the other through the lungs. neither took more than one step after the shot. they are just small dogs, if they are hit right they are done. DR
I grew up shooting cyotes with a Armscor 22lr, I loved that pos rifle.
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...then train him to assassinate other coyotes.

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Alright guys so my choice of the Mosin nagant or the winchester are out of the decision making process. I think I am going to choose my .223 AR-15 with a sure fire red dot? yeah?

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A 22lr will drop a yote
Sure it will, you are correct. But you need to precisely place your shot. Please be a little more humane and use a centerfire. Just because it's a varmint does not mean it should suffer. Yeah, yeah I'm a softy. I only take good shots and I cringe when I don't make a clean kill, which is rare these days.

The mosin? That should be a humane kill with most ammo.
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Your AR is my yote weapon of choice. However, nothing says "over" like a 30-06 from a trusty M1 Garand - from a Coyote perspective.
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Do them in with a mosin nagant and blow their head off like a sniper in WWII!
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If it is really that sick and skinny why not run out there and hit it with a shovel?
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Mosin worked for me just fine....

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damn son! nice kill. Yeah this yote is a crazy one.. been feeding it chicken stuffed with rat poison but keeps coming back after it eats it... i just want to hunt it already!
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have a coyote problem... Cant decide on whether to use my WInchester Model 1876 .45-75 or my M91/30 Mosin nagant... hard choice. what would you choose and WHY?
Your Moslin is the best choice, if its a still shot. moving use the ar.

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Where I live, we hit them with whatever we have in our hands.
With coyote, there's no 'ethical kill' BS to consider.
If you wound one, it's mates will finish the job soon enough.

I suggest you shoot them with whatever makes you grin more.
Bring both rifles and see which one makes you happier when you're shooting those miserable critters.





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If you can tweak the 3 ball guard load for a .45-70 to work in your .45-75 that would be my first choice. Or just use whatever is handy, that's usually what happens anyway.
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My vote is 22lr, a shovel, and don't ask don't tell --
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Vintovka.
Yes, винтовка-снаиперская is the best choice. The Mosin, bitte.

Disclaimer: I have never hunted coyotes, but I trust ammo is more common for the Mosin than the 45-75? And that both will do the job?
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