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Iím looking at buying a Springfield loaded parkerized from Buds for $773. While I was at it I was just poking around at some comparable models. I am after a full size single stack .45 1911, not a base model but nothing too high end.

I saw on their (budís) qualified professional page for LEO, Fire, and military they have a Sig Nitron 1911 for $745. Outside of not quite liking the appearance of the external extractor is this a comparable or better gun? Any other good 1911ís I may be missing out on in the 7-800$ range?

Iím roster exempt but donít want to buy something crazy. Besides Iíve had two friends with super high end guns from Wilson and Nighthawk that both ran worse than my rock island, so while I know they have sterling reputations I suspect a lot of that ties into marketing.
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Get a Dan Wesson or a Les Baer but these are both over $1K. Closer to $1.5-$2K depending if you buy new or used. Maybe look at a Sig Target or a Super Target 1911.

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Nothing wrong with the Springfield Loaded, they are shooters for sure. You cant go wrong.
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Kimber (and cue haterade).
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Kimber (and cue haterade).
Money would be better spent on an RIA

And to the OP, the parkerized Loaded is a great gun!

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Since you already have an RIA, and are roster exempt, I’d seriously consider saving up and getting a Dan Wesson. Like the RIA is a great value for the money so is the DW. The lower priced Springer is fine but why get something you pretty much already have?
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Springfield quality & QC is not what it used to be. Research it. Spend the 2-300 more and get quality


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Besides Iíve had two friends with super high end guns from Wilson and Nighthawk that both ran worse than my rock island, so while I know they have sterling reputations I suspect a lot of that ties into marketing.
RIA in the same sentence as WC and Nighthawk?? Your friends' guns probably just needed to be properly broken in.
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If you’re exempt, get a colt. The Springfield’s are nice, but colts are special.
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If youíre exempt, get a colt. The Springfieldís are nice, but colts are special.
What's so special about series 80. All you're buying these days is a name
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Go with the loaded.
The man I have quoted above happens to know a thing or two about what makes a 1911 tick, and how to improve upon them if and when necessary... This is not an insignificant recommendation, here.

I am inclined to agree. When I first shot my own pakerized Loaded five years ago I came home with my one-ragged-hole target, I was so proud. I have had zero malfunctions with either gun, since, and the combined round count approaches 10,000. I don't get to shoot as much as I'd like to, but dry fire practice with snap caps can certainly help between live fire sessions.

While a $3000 1911 is a joy to behold, to shoot, to covet... I have a mortgage and additional shooting interests that include scout rifles, shotguns, single action whirlenpoppers and lever carbines.

Why have one de luxe 1911 when I can have two of the best 1911s for the money, anywhere? Here are two Loaded model Springfields. The one with the half rail is an MC Operator. Because "two is one and one is none".

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Love my SA Loaded. Have had zero issues and the park finish is great.
I’ve swapped out to a single piece guide rod, removed the ILS system components with standard MSH and the trigger is even better.
It’s a great if not the best entry level 1911 made in the US.
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I’ve swapped out to a single piece guide rod, removed the ILS system components with standard MSH and the trigger is even better.
Nice. When I was on the phone with SA customer service last week to order additional 7-round factory stainless magazines, a G.I. guide rod and park'd plug (for the first Loaded), I forgot! to order two plain MSHs and related hardware (if any). Thanks for the reminder!

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Springfield, Colt, or Ruger. I just bought a Ruger and it's a lot of gun for the money and very accurate. Colt seems to be better now than in years past.
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My loaded SS model (NM serial) has been a great pistol. No problems whatsoever. Excellent shooter. I recommend it as a really good mid-level entry into the 1911 game.
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I bought the Springfield mil-spec SS match barrel model from Turner's on sale for $649.
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Iím roster exempt but donít want to buy something crazy. Besides Iíve had two friends with super high end guns from Wilson and Nighthawk that both ran worse than my rock island..............
Hey, OP, you are " roster exempt ".........by all means, don't WASTE your money on that Springfield Loaded!

Find the new model COLT COMPETITION.......
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If youíre exempt, get a colt. The Springfieldís are nice, but colts are special.
This. Wiley clapp comes to mind.
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Please don’t think assume that I think Springfield’s are bad, I own a TRP that hasn’t missed a beat in the 8,000 rounds I shot through it. But if I were to have one 1911, and I was not restricted to the roster, I would choose a Colt.

They just feel different in the hand and how the slide racks. Sure they don’t have as many features as the Kimber, or not as many variations as the Springfield. But they are made with some of the best steel in the industry, and they carry a name and reputation that is hard to match.

Either way, you won’t be disappointed with any 1911 from either company, they are a hoot to shoot!
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Iím looking at buying a Springfield loaded parkerized from Buds for $773. While I was at it I was just poking around at some comparable models. I am after a full size single stack .45 1911, not a base model but nothing too high end.

I saw on their (budís) qualified professional page for LEO, Fire, and military they have a Sig Nitron 1911 for $745. Outside of not quite liking the appearance of the external extractor is this a comparable or better gun? Any other good 1911ís I may be missing out on in the 7-800$ range?

Iím roster exempt but donít want to buy something crazy. Besides Iíve had two friends with super high end guns from Wilson and Nighthawk that both ran worse than my rock island, so while I know they have sterling reputations I suspect a lot of that ties into marketing.
Since you can do off roster how difficult would it be to go out of state, maybe Cabelas in Reno, to handle and buy there? There's alot of knowledge here, but let's face it. With the roster and that most of us spend most of our time in state, buy off the roster save for the occasional off roster PPT, may be that a more complete answer is found out of state.
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I have Colts, Kimber, Dan Wesson, Springfield.

Dollar for dollar, the SA Parked Loaded I bought 15 years ago was/is the best buy. The stainless Loaded in 9mm i recently picked up is flawless and really fun to shoot.

The DWs cost the most, but out of the box, they are a thing of beauty and have a slide action and trigger that is stunningly smooth and easy. More accurate than humans can become.

The Kimber was the top of the line at the time, was pricy and performs really well. It's also extremely accurate and just fun to look at. The entire gun was soapbarred and melted for carry...Not a burr or sharp edge on it. But the finish isn't as durable as the others.

The Colts are Colts, and I got them because they're Colts. The NM pistol has sharp edges and will chop up the hand. I leave it to my grandson to learn what that feels like and to smooth out the metal for me. The Commander is mine.

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What's so special about series 80. All you're buying these days is a name
In 1983 when Colt introduced S80 people were split on what was better. I got multiple S80 and never had a problem after the first detail strip.

I got a Commander in 2016 (before it came off the roster) and it was much better than a 1966 Commander. For people who have been shooting .45 Automatics for 50 years you might want to stick with Colt. If you have no sense of history a Ruger 1911 is a good deal. JMHO
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Can't go wrong with either. Both Sig and Springfield make great guns
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Sig gives you front strap checkering. To me that would be worth the funky slide. Who cares about.external extractors (which are more reliable than a one piece spring anyway) or Series 80 parts you can replace anyway.
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Personally, I would buy Dan wesson OR I would get the springfield range officer in Stainless steel (I don't like ambidextrous thumb safeties). I would pay a talented gunsmith that specializes in 1911s to file some front strap checkering and I would replace the main trigger components with ED brown. I'm in love with the feel of the Ed brown. And consider installing Trijicon HD sights. You will have a shooter on par with the best.
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Roster Exempt? Jealous,
at $700 - $1000 I saw many attractive off roster 1911s

Colt 1911 Competition Series
Sig Sauer 1911 Tactical Operations
Colt 1911 Rail Gun
S&W SW1911 E-Series
Remington Model 1911 R1
Ruger SR1911 Railed TALO
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The Springfield loaded is probably the best value out there currently for a 1911. No it's not perfect but you get quite a bit for your money.
  • Novak cut Trijicon night sights (standard cut makes them easy to replace if you want to)
  • Series 70 firing system
  • Beaver Tail Grip safety
  • Ambi Thumb Safety
  • Standard slide profile (easy to find holsters)
  • Lifetime Warranty

There is nothing wrong with the Kimbers, Sigs, RIA, etc., you just don't get as much bang for you buck as you do with a Springfield.
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Personally, I would buy Dan wesson OR I would get the springfield range officer in Stainless steel (I don't like ambidextrous thumb safeties). I would pay a talented gunsmith that specializes in 1911s to file some front strap checkering and I would replace the main trigger components with ED brown. I'm in love with the feel of the Ed brown. And consider installing Trijicon HD sights. You will have a shooter on par with the best.
And now you're at $1,050.00 with hand checkering only on a Springfield, and you're no better off parts-wise than with Sig until you spend the additional $200 for the internal parts upgrade..

Not sure why anyone thinks Springfield offers any improvement in quality cause they don't.
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The Springfield loaded is probably the best value out there currently for a 1911. No it's not perfect but you get quite a bit for your money.
  • Novak cut Trijicon night sights (standard cut makes them easy to replace if you want to)
  • Series 70 firing system
  • Beaver Tail Grip safety
  • Ambi Thumb Safety
  • Standard slide profile (easy to find holsters)
  • Lifetime Warranty

There is nothing wrong with the Kimbers, Sigs, RIA, etc., you just don't get as much bang for you buck as you do with a Springfield.
When you add the cost of front strap checkering, Sig is the better deal, hands-down. Internals are the same, both have forged frames and slides. Look what fro t strap checkering costs from anyone. Sig is what if buy, in spite of the ugly slide.
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And now you're at $1,050.00 with hand checkering only on a Springfield, and you're no better off parts-wise than with Sig until you spend the additional $200 for the internal parts upgrade..



Not sure why anyone thinks Springfield offers any improvement in quality cause they don't.


Unless your spending the money for the FBI gun or your buying a springer as a base gun to sen to a smith, personally Iíd not recommend them especially if the roster isnít an issue


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And now you're at $1,050.00 with hand checkering only on a Springfield, and you're no better off parts-wise than with Sig until you spend the additional $200 for the internal parts upgrade..

Not sure why anyone thinks Springfield offers any improvement in quality cause they don't.
I honestly haven't fired the sig. But you can get the Ed brown trigger kit right now for $69. http://www.edbrown.com/?s=kit+sale&p...tags=1&ixwps=1
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Interesting. All I will say is that I have a well healed buddy who has been pushing me to get a 1911 to augment my DA/SA Sig. He doesn't like the Kimber, wants me to get a Wilson, but thinks pretty well of the Springfield.
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