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Old 12-07-2010, 5:52 PM
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Default need help to id what year my smith and wesson model 10 is

i have a smith and wesson model 10
the serial number is 701x
anyone know what year it is
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6 inch barrel blued
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Old 12-07-2010, 8:50 PM
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the serial number is at the bottom of the butt

what does it say there?
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The 4 digit number you've posted is an assembly number. The assembly numbers helped the people at the factory keep track of what parts went to what gun. The actual serial number will be on the butt --- the very bottom of the gun's grip. If it has grips that cover that section of the frame, you may have to remove them. If it is a newer gun, the serial might be elsewhere on the gun as well. The serial of a model 10 will have AT LEAST one letter in it, and will almost certainly be 7 characters total. (though fewer is possible). A model 10 WILL ALWAYS have either one or three letters in it. (never two, and if it has zero letters, then it actually pre-dates the model 10)

. Also, if you open the cylinder, it will reveal a piece of metal on the left (probably where you got the 4 digit number) Under, or above that, there might be a number along with your 10. Example "10-3 or 10-5" This is the model number. Let us know what that says as well. (SW added dashes after the main model number to designate model variations)
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Here, in case I'm not up when you post.

Serial Numbers:
If it is really marked as a model 10, and isn't a .38 M&P, then it has to be post 1957. Before 1957, it wouldn't say "10, or Model 10" or anything like that anywhere on it. Since we are assuming it is a model 10, that is where I'll start the serial ranges.

If it starts with a "C" and has only numbers following the C, then it is pre 1968.
(If the serial starts with "C", but is C402923 or less, the gun actually isn't a model 10, but earlier.)

If it starts with "D" and has only numbers after the "D," the gun is from 1968-1977.

If it has a one or two digit number, and THEN a "D," and THEN some more numbers, (meaning the "D" will be either the second or third character in the serial, and all other characters are numbers) it is from 1977-1983

After 1983 the serials get crazy and will be in the format of three letters, and then four numbers. The ranges are SUPER tight here, as SW really started making a ton of guns then, and most models shared serial ranges.

Model Numbers:
If you find the 10-1, or 10-8, or 10-XY, you can narrow it down a bit further. These are model changes, meaning some feature or aspect of the gun changed a bit.

10 by itself means started in 1957
10-1 started in 1959
10-2 started in 1961
10-3 started in 1961
10-4 started in 1962
10-5 started in 1962
10-6 started in 1962
10-7 started in 1977
10-8 started in 1977
10-9 started in 1988
10-10 started in 1988
10-11 started in 1997 (probably not this or later, since your gun is blue)
10-12 started in 1997
10-13 started in 2002

Using these tables together, you should be able to narrow down a decent range of when your gun is from. If you post up the whole number (or all but the last two or three) I can narrow it down even tighter.
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Put together,

You seem very knowledgeable and I enjoy your posts. I just bought a
S&W model 10-7 .38 special m&p 2 inch barrel from a gun show here in
NC. I was told it was a 1981 and am trying to verify that date. The serial
number is 10D9723 and it has never been fired. Your post narrowed it down
to 1977-1983. Thanks for any help you can provide.

Don in NC
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Put together,

You seem very knowledgeable and I enjoy your posts. I just bought a
S&W model 10-7 .38 special m&p 2 inch barrel from a gun show here in
NC. I was told it was a 1981 and am trying to verify that date. The serial
number is 10D9723 and it has never been fired. Your post narrowed it down
to 1977-1983. Thanks for any help you can provide.

Don in NC
The Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson says your Model 10 was produced in 1982.
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I also have a question regarding the date of shipping/make for my 10-6.

My serial number is D430912.

I know it is after 1967 and before 1976, but don't have any better idea.

Can someone look it up for me as well? Thanks!
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I also have a question regarding the date of shipping/make for my 10-6.

My serial number is D430912.

I know it is after 1967 and before 1976, but don't have any better idea.

Can someone look it up for me as well? Thanks!
1972-1973 (Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson-3rd Edition/pg. 399)
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1972-1973 (Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson-3rd Edition/pg. 399)

Awesome!

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If anyone is willing, can you date the revolver my grandpa left me please. It's a 10-5 serial D496987
Thank you in advance

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If anyone is willing, can you date the revolver my grandpa left me please. It's a 10-5 serial D496987
Thank you in advance

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According to the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, serial numbers D420001 - D510000 were used from 1972 - 1973.
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According to the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, serial numbers D420001 - D510000 were used from 1972 - 1973.
Thank you good sir!

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I love model 10s. I vow to own one some day!
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Old 03-24-2016, 9:10 AM
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I love model 10s. I vow to own one some day!
the Model 10 is a genuine workhorse that earned it's status as a classic. the pre-model 10 M&P revolver is one to own as well. my example of the M&P was manufactured in 1949.
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Please post a pic when you get a chance.
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Please post a pic when you get a chance.
Well, here's mine, all 2 inches of it.

The revolver's barrel length, I mean



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945 nice. What year is it?
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945 nice. What year is it?
Thanks. Per SCSW 3rd edition, 1969-1970
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You can also contact Smith & Wesson directly for this info, they are helpful. (but not as quick as CALGUNS!)
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Well, here's mine, all 2 inches of it.

The revolver's barrel length, I mean

very nice.
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would all model 10 serial # have a letter? I have one in jail and it does not have a letter in it. all I have is the paper , no gun so I cant check it physically..
serial number 5469xx any help?
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would all model 10 serial # have a letter? I have one in jail and it does not have a letter in it. all I have is the paper , no gun so I cant check it physically..
serial number 5469xx any help?
The Model 10 was called the ".38 Military & Police" (".38 M&P") until 1957. There was no letter in the serial number until after World War II, and no model number was stamped on S&W guns until '57. If your serial number is 546xxx then it was made before WWII; I'm guessing close to 1940. I'm sure there are many experts who can narrow this down even further, but your best bet is to request an official Letter of Authenticity from Smith & Wesson.
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The Model 10 was called the ".38 Military & Police" (".38 M&P") until 1957. There was no letter in the serial number until after World War II, and no model number was stamped on S&W guns until '57. If your serial number is 546xxx then it was made before WWII; I'm guessing close to 1940. I'm sure there are many experts who can narrow this down even further, but your best bet is to request an official Letter of Authenticity from Smith & Wesson.

This^^^^^^^^


As a side note, among collectors, guns made after WWII, but before model numbers were adapted are sometimes called "pre model" guns, although technically the factory called them by their model names. That is why I call all my pre '57 Smiths by the model name, like "Combat Masterpiece", "K22 Masterpiece" etc..
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