[insin]

Are SBR's legal?

Thanks,

[PanzerAce]

um, the ATF jumps your Sh*t instead of the DOJ?

[insin]

Ahhh, I see. Okay, ATF knocking on your door might be worse then the DOJ.

[PanzerAce]

yes, it most definatly would be, since the ATF does not seem to be in the habit of actually knocking or anything.

[insin]

I guess Ill just stick with the M4, Midlength, and 20"er...

[adamsreeftank]

Originally Posted by PanzerAce

um, the ATF jumps your Sh*t instead of the DOJ?

Actually I think it would be more of a team effort. Kind of a joint task force thing. Of course, it's the ATF that brings the tanks.

[PIRATE14]

Don't forget the Federal Gov't has killed people because of short barreled shot gun........

And wiped out a entire camp cause they thought the had a few illegal weapons.....

I feel safer because of it..............

[JPglee1]

Originally Posted by insin

Is there any added penalty (legally) of being caught with an SBR compared to a non compliant built OLL?

I know that both would be considered assault weapons, however does the SBR come with its own added charges?

I know it’s a stupid question, but again it’s a hypothetical one.

Thanks,

Well, without digging up the penal code, (going off memory) the penalty for an unregistered SBR is 2,4, or 6 years in a california state prison. Federally its a 10yr sentence in a fed prison... USUALLY the BATF takes the case on federal stuff like SBRs...

Basically, don't do it


JP

[bwiese]

Well, let's say you had an OLL built up into an (illegal, unregistered) AW.
Let's also say it had a 11.5" barrel.

They could line up all sorts of charges... here's what they _could_ do:

• simple unreg'd AW possession (misdemeanor/felony wobbler);
• illegal AW manufacture;
• illegal AW transport (esp if you drove it- they might allege it anyway);
• illegal SBR possession; (CA)
• illegal SBR manufacture; (CA)
• multiple Federal SBR charges;

In theory you could get 10-20 years if all the charges' penalties were consecutive and nothing was plead down, etc. and if both state and Fed went after you.

[Stanze]

That's not only illegal, that's highly illegal!

[GTKrockeTT]

in layman's terms, it's dumb and dumbER.

[PIRATE14]

Originally Posted by bwiese

Well, let's say you had an OLL built up into an (illegal, unregistered) AW.
Let's also say it had a 11.5" barrel.

They could line up all sorts of charges... here's what they _could_ do:

• simple unreg'd AW possession (misdemeanor/felony wobbler);
• illegal AW manufacture;
• illegal AW transport (esp if you drove it- they might allege it anyway);
• illegal SBR possession; (CA)
• illegal SBR manufacture; (CA)
• multiple Federal SBR charges;

In theory you could get 10-20 years if all the charges' penalties were consecutive and nothing was plead down, etc. and if both state and Fed went after you.

PLUS lets face it, Johnny C has cashed in so you'd really be up SH** creek

[brando]

Risk going to jail for a gun = stupid

Stay legal. If you really want an SBR THAT badly, move out of state.

[mailman]

The ATF don't knock -Andre Nicatina "dre dog"