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Old 11-08-2010, 1:22 PM
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Hi fellow gunmen - I recently purchased my first rifle (10/22) and now I am ready to look at handguns. I can see this becoming an expensive hobby, that's why I am researching to see what the experts have to say. It's all subject to style preference, I know, but I want to know which 1911 is the best quality without spending thousands for custom work. It seems to be the best overall, and very nice looking.
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Old 11-08-2010, 1:25 PM
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If you are looking for a shooter to plink with, go with Rock Island Armory.

They have the Tatical Model with the Beaver Tail and the better sights.

They have been getting great reviews and I hear the Customer Support is pretty good.

I am gonna pick up a 9mm 1911 by Rock Island once they are available to us.

I am going with 9mm because I can't afford .45 and that way I can stockpile 1 centerfire pistol ammo

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I dont have any firsthand experience with them, but Rock Island 1911 owners swear by them.
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Thanks - I will try to find a range that rents guns - that way I can try 'em out
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Take a look at the Dan Wesson line - Out of the box semi-custom - For around 1-1.1K you're getting a lot -
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best value--rock island! like jrara mentions, the tactical is a great deal (minimal marginal cost, great marginal benefit over GI model). the rock island "match" has a fiberoptic front sight and an LPA adjustable rear sight, if you're looking for all that, but costs about 200 more.

not that many ranges have rock islands for rent...but they don't feel very different from most entry-level 1911s.
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It must be accurate and less then 600 bucks - I'll have to wait to get into the high grade customs.
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It must be accurate and less then 600 bucks - I'll have to wait to get into the high grade customs.
Rock Island fits that.

You might need to call some ranges to see if they have it for rent.
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I took my neighbor to Turners on Thurs. to buy his first pistol. They had a limited number of Rock island 4.25" GI 1911's on sale for 399.00. He picked one up, not sure if there are any left but it's worth a shot. Sounds like it's kinda what you're lookin for.
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Thanks - I will try to find a range that rents guns - that way I can try 'em out
You just gave yourself the best advice. We all love and hate the other guys guns and therefore will tell you what is best for us and not you. Go to a range a few times and shoot a bunch of guns and then make up your mind. You might spend 60 buck or so renting guns, but you are shooting and you won't buy a gun that you hate and try to sell for at least a $60.00 loss.
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Thanks for that - so far I am leaning towards a 1911 .45 in GI green.
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It must be...less then 600 bucks
well, rosterwise, your only choices are the rock island and other armscor (charles daly, high standard) offerings. (you'll be hard-pressed to find a springfield GI for under 600 otd.) and turner's still has the 4.25" commander versions in stock as of yesterday for $399.
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Rock Island matches your price point and has a lot of the bells and whistles that would cost you a lot more on bigger name 1911's
I have 2 and they are accurate and reliable
Not match-grade perhaps but a good gun and great value. An excellent starter 1911
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I have a RIA/ mid-size (Commander Style)...took it out only twice in the last couple of months and I've got nothing bad to say about it...in fact the stock trigger feels better than a friend's stock Colt, and it shoots point of aim and has a decent group at 10yards. This is the plain jane model...I plan to add/modify it over the next year as my budget and time allows. I've only fed it FMJ/ball ammo with very good reliability...I'll be meeting up with a friend later this month, who is a reloader, and see how it digests his Semi-Wad Cutter style bullets.

But I'm close to being a 'Rock-Head' !! feel free to join the club.
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Take a look at the Dan Wesson line - Out of the box semi-custom - For around 1-1.1K you're getting a lot -
I think you'll be VERY hard pressed to find a (NIB) Dan Wesson, especially the discontinuted PM7 or CBOB, for $1-1.1k now. Dan Wesson has really made a concerted effort to go upmarket with their 1911s and as a result, I don't really think calling them "steals" or "a best value" is too accurate anymore.

I mean, their Valor apparently sells for between $1400-1700 now depending on finish.
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Old 11-08-2010, 2:21 PM
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Be sure to check the marketplace here. I've seen some pretty good deals on 1911s here. You won't pay tax either but you would have some fees for PPT and/or shipping.
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I think you'll be VERY hard pressed to find a (NIB) Dan Wesson, especially the discontinuted PM7 or CBOB, for $1-1.1k now. Dan Wesson has really made a concerted effort to go upmarket with their 1911s and as a result, I don't really think calling them "steals" or "a best value" is too accurate anymore.

I mean, their Valor apparently sells for between $1400-1700 now depending on finish.
I would have to concur. Dan Wesson has made the jump into trying to get their name put under the "semi-custom" category which results in a significant price jump. But, they did change out some of the small parts so now it's MIM free.


I dunno, I still think the best value would go to the Springfield Milspec. A very plain jane 1911 with better sights than the GI and forged slide and frame. Plus, you get the Springfield CS to go along with it. Once you get into the Loaded, Custom II, 1911PD, and XSE category all the "best value" aspect goes right out the window.
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SA milspec.
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Old 11-08-2010, 3:17 PM
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i know y'all are getting tired of hearing this but rock island also has superb CS (cf. armscor/rock island forum at m1911.org; rock island replaced a customer's kB that occurred while he was shooting reloads)--wanted to mention it in case it was a dealbreaker for anyone
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I love my Rock Island Armory 1911! You can read about it here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ry#post5253194

Have fun with what ever you get!

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Thanks - the Springfield mil spec is what I have been leaning toward the most.

There are so many 1911 manufacturers, isn't Colt the original? What do you think about the quality between these different companies - one way to look at it is to be loyal to the original maker. On the other hand, the next guy might take a good product and just make it better, right? Or just a quick copy to sell because it's popular.

I guess they are all made the same, but really which 1911 manufacturer is the best?
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No such thing as the best. Manufacturers may offer higher end but they all tend to be very good. If you go rock island or Springfield you'll have a good gun either way. Though neither is made in the us.
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Parallax (SP) Tactical is doing a group buy for some Springfield guns. Their pricing on the GI is crazy low.

They have a link in the commercial deals forum.
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I guess they are all made the same, but really which 1911 manufacturer is the best?
Simple. Which ever manufacturer most closely replicates the original designs, because this is the most reliable version of the 1911.

With this criteria, your two options are the colt reproductions (which aren't available in california unless you do the single shot exemption stuff) or a springfield gi/milspec.

They have a forged frame and slide, no firing pin safety, and aren't built to uber tight tolerances.
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/\ And the RIA. Damn near kunhausen(browning) specs on mine.
Forged frame, eh, not important. No real/appreciable difference.
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RIA Tactical. Still fairly new to me but I bought it after much research and almost unanimous praise from owners. Mine is 100% so far with 230gr round nose boolits. We're working on mags for HP & SWC. I have one Wilson Combat mag that feeds the SWC & HP very well.

Sights, beavertail, larger ejection port and I believe a better trigger are upgrades from the basic GI model.

IMO it's good bang for the buck. Still, if I could only have one (perish the thought ) I would keep my Ruger KP90.


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Thumbs up Rock Island.

I picked up a Rock Island 9mm 1911 GI a few weeks ago . Around $420 OTD , branny new.
It's a bare bones 1911 - which I think is the place to start. There was a .45 right next to it , but I grabbed the 9mm. My wife has already muckled on to it . That meaned I'll just have to get the .45 later.

This specific Rock is very accurate. I gave a fluff & buff so it would run mild 115gn loads. The sights suck out of the box , just like the GI sights did. Very fixable .

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The RIA and SA G.I. model are probably your only sub-$600 choices for a 1911 right now. If you can wait a bit, get in on that Paralax Tactical group buy for the SA Loaded 1911 as it is about $200 off regular price and only a couple bucks over your price point, making it the best value anywhere! I have 2 Loaded models and absolutely love them. If I was buying a sub-$600 1911 I would personally go with the SA G.I. model because I will eventually build it up when I have a few extra bucks, and it makes the best choice for a build gun. If you get bit by the 1911 custom bug, you can take that G.I. model and turn it into the highest end custom you ever saw (big $$$) or somewhere in between.

If you never plan to upgrade the gun or you are not a person who likes to tweak out their toys, I would suggest the RIA in the base model or the Tactical for a bit more. These guns are good solid 1911s and are inexpensive for what you get. Since they are built on cast frames I would not recommend them as a basis for a custom build later, but they are a cost effective way to get into a 1911.

Since you are also in Riverside, I'd be happy to let you try out one of my SA Loadeds so you can get a comparative basis.
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One thing I really respect about the Rock Island guns is that they don't use front cocking serrations.
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RIA for value if you plan on keeping it, but if you plan on selling it one day, im thinking the Springfield will hold value a little longer.

As for myself, i have a rock island, i dont really like selling my babies.
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The RIA and SA G.I. model are probably your only sub-$600 choices for a 1911 right now. If you can wait a bit, get in on that Paralax Tactical group buy for the SA Loaded 1911 as it is about $200 off regular price and only a couple bucks over your price point, making it the best value anywhere! I have 2 Loaded models and absolutely love them. If I was buying a sub-$600 1911 I would personally go with the SA G.I. model because I will eventually build it up when I have a few extra bucks, and it makes the best choice for a build gun. If you get bit by the 1911 custom bug, you can take that G.I. model and turn it into the highest end custom you ever saw (big $$$) or somewhere in between.

If you never plan to upgrade the gun or you are not a person who likes to tweak out their toys, I would suggest the RIA in the base model or the Tactical for a bit more. These guns are good solid 1911s and are inexpensive for what you get. Since they are built on cast frames I would not recommend them as a basis for a custom build later, but they are a cost effective way to get into a 1911.

Since you are also in Riverside, I'd be happy to let you try out one of my SA Loadeds so you can get a comparative basis.
Solid advice! I recently sent my SA G.I. to Cylinder and Slide for the "Trident" build. They will only use the SA G.I. as a base model for custom builds. 1911's are addicting and you will more than likely own more than one eventually. Many custom makers consider the SA the best production base model.

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Best value period : Rock Island.

Best overall under $1000 : Kimber

Over $1000 (And under $2K) : Kimber, Springfield, CZ/Dan Wesson, Colt

BEST : Nighthawk (Got $3K?)

Don't get a sub-1000$ Springfield. The loaded models really just aren't that great and for the money the Kimbers are far nicer guns. Don't listen to the haters about the Rock Islands. They are fantastic guns in their price range and an excellent value. I've got one, I love it.

When you start hitting about the $1500 mark, your options really open up to some very high quality guns, but you're also talking more than $1500. This is the price point where the Springfields really come into their own. At this price point you can start getting "custom" guns as well.

If it's your first 1911 and you know you want one but are looking for value, I would HIGHLY recommend a Kimber.

If it's your first 1911 and you're a little iffy and maybe aren't totally sure, pick up a Rock Island. You'll have a lot of fun with it and won't regret the purchase should you decide later on to get a higher-end 1911.
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/\ And the RIA. Damn near kunhausen(browning) specs on mine.
Forged frame, eh, not important. No real/appreciable difference.
There must be a difference because most custom builders won't use RIA frames as base guns. Not saying I know what is is, but they must.

That and nothing bad ever happened by making a tool tougher.
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Eh, I don't know about that. Cast frames, MIM parts, and not built to kunhausen specs, not to mention the reliability problems that they always seem to have.

Lots of well respected 1911 gurus avoid the brand all together.
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There must be a difference because most custom builders won't use RIA frames as base guns. Not saying I know what is is, but they must.

That and nothing bad ever happened by making a tool tougher.
I'm sure theres some difference but its far beyond what most any of us will ever need. I mean hell FN went to a cast frame in the .40 High power because the forged frames were cracking, or so I understand it.
I think the biggest reason many smiths wont use a RIA frame is that its cheap. Hell STI uses armscor frames, same as the RIA line. Why use cheaper parts when you could use marginally more expensive ones and charge exponentially more for it.
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I picked up a Rock Island 9mm 1911 GI a few weeks ago . Around $420 OTD , branny new.
It's a bare bones 1911 - which I think is the place to start. There was a .45 right next to it , but I grabbed the 9mm. My wife has already muckled on to it . That meaned I'll just have to get the .45 later.

This specific Rock is very accurate. I gave a fluff & buff so it would run mild 115gn loads. The sights suck out of the box , just like the GI sights did. Very fixable .
How did you luck out and find a Rock Island 1911 in 9mm? I thought the Rock Island 1911 in 9mm is not on the Roster. That's one gun that I've been looking at on Gallery of Guns and it's they won't ship it to California because it's off-roster. For $420 OTD let us know where we can pick one up.

I'd suggest maybe a Kimber Custom II or Springfield Mil-Spec for a couple hundred more.
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Why don't you try some basic ones, then high-end ones?

since alot of people already mentioned basic ones, I'll suggest the high-end ones:

Les Baer
Ed Brown
Nighthawk
Wilson Combat
Dan Wesson
Guncrafter Industries

If you start with a basic 1911 and modify to the level of each one of these high-end 1911's, you will actually spend $1K more.

My personal favorite is Guncrafter Industries. To me it has the best quality. It's solid, everything is tight yet the action is smooth. Trigger is nicely tuned. I sold several of my colt's and Ed Brown after getting it. (I chose Ed Brown after handled Wilson, Nighthawk, and Les Baer). Besides the regular .45 ACP barrel, mine has the .50 GI barrel as well. Nice gun with 2 calibers!

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I think most builders dont like to work on cast frames, because when you start cutting cast things, sometimes you get holes because there were bubbles in the casting. When i had some work done to my armscor the gunsmith had to weld some parts of the frame because the casting wasnt perfect and there was a little bubble inside. Structurally im sure it was fine, he only welded the hole as a cosmetic thing.
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Eh, I don't know about that. Cast frames, MIM parts, and not built to kunhausen specs, not to mention the reliability problems that they always seem to have.

Lots of well respected 1911 gurus avoid the brand all together.
+1 on this. A lot of research and a few questions to formers owners is the reason I have two Springfields instead of 1 Springfield and 1 Kimber!
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I beg to differ. The full length dust cover rail makes a world of difference in the "when I run out of bullets I'm going to beat you to death with the pistol" look that causes bad guys to run in fear, and lesser men to feel inadequate. It looks just plain beastly and the extra heft up front does help manage recoil a bit better. Plus, an angel told me that when God called JMB to heaven it was to build him a full rail 1911!
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Hell STI uses armscor frames, same as the RIA line.
STI only uses Armscor frames on their entry level guns, and only because they are trying to reach a low-end price point they cannot reach with their own high-end frames.
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I beg to differ. The full length dust cover rail makes a world of difference in the "when I run out of bullets I'm going to beat you to death with the pistol" look that causes bad guys to run in fear, and lesser men to feel inadequate. It looks just plain beastly and the extra heft up front does help manage recoil a bit better. Plus, an angel told me that when God called JMB to heaven it was to build him a full rail 1911!
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