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Old 11-07-2010, 6:49 PM
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So i just picked up my wasr and took it apart cleaned it gun looked good. went out back and put a mag in it and tryed to cycle a few rounds and on the last round the bolt locked shut. what should i do?
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Old 11-07-2010, 6:55 PM
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its the hammer getting hungup on the bolt carrier, no biggie. my romy G does it, but only BY HAND, firing it shouldnt, try polishing the bottom of the bolt carrier and surface and top of the hammer, then keep them oiled up you should be fine
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Old 11-07-2010, 6:59 PM
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its locked closed against the chamber with a round in it. took the top off and spring out mag out still nothing. the bolt literaly wont open.
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here is a pic of the gun.
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its locked closed against the chamber with a round in it. took the top off and spring out mag out still nothing. the bolt literaly wont open.
oh wow sorry I misread. you have a potentially dangerous situation.
I would suggest you put it on the safe position, place the buttstock on the ground, sit down ( MAKESURE THE BARRELL IS POINTED IN THE SAFEST DIRECTION (nowhere near you)and hit the charging handle with a rubber mallet or even a hammer. even with the safety on the bolt will go back enough for it to unlock.

I would wait till some other people chime in here before you do that.
could use some other insight

EDIT I would put the recoil spring back in, so the boltcarrier dosent go back too far and possible damage your gun
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you mean you were cycling snap caps, right?
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yeah not so good. i have heard these wasr's have weird problems but i didnt know of anything like this. and whats weird is that it is not closes all the way its like half an inch from closing but stuck like a rock. ill wait to see what some other ideas may be. could i transport it to a gunsmith with a bullet in the chamber?
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So i just picked up my wasr and took it apart cleaned it gun looked good. went out back and put a mag in it and tryed to cycle a few rounds and on the last round the bolt locked shut. what should i do?
First off please tell me you removed the firing pin before racking live ammo through your gun. If not......well your an idiot. If so.....then OK, just get a BFH or any other heavy object and pound the charging handle. The bolt will unlock and the round will eject.

If you did option #1, then you need to put the muzzle in the dirt and have another person beat the bolt carrier open.
DO NOT USE LIVE AMMO UNLESS YOU REMOVE THE FLOATING FIRING PIN. IT FLOATS AND CAN SET OFF A ROUND.
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no live ammo. i have enough land where i can shoot it in my yard but i wasnt planning on discharging anything tonight.
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yeah not so good. i have heard these wasr's have weird problems but i didnt know of anything like this. and whats weird is that it is not closes all the way its like half an inch from closing but stuck like a rock. ill wait to see what some other ideas may be. could i transport it to a gunsmith with a bullet in the chamber?
they were snap caps or were they live?

I was under the impression that it was a live round, if so that counts as loaded. wich is a nono
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yeah its a live round.
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why would you cycle a live round? thats an accident waiting to happen

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yeah its a live round.
yeah so you couldnt legally transport it anywhere, even tho you have enough land to shoot, dont try firing it to unlock it since its not in-battery.

your just gonna have to hit the charging handle with a mallett.

be verrrrrrry very careful tho
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could i remove the trigger parts without risking the hammer hitting the pin? then hit it with a hammer?
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yeah so you couldnt legally transport it anywhere, even tho you have enough land to shoot, dont try firing it to unlock it since its not in-battery.

your just gonna have to hit the charging handle with a mallett.

be verrrrrrry very careful tho
We had a guy bring a Marlin 1894 Lever gun into the shop with a live round.....Not good but I got it out and made the rifle safe.
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could i remove the trigger parts without risking the hammer hitting the pin? then hit it with a hammer?
I was thinking that too, but unless you know what your doing and are very familiar with it. I wouldnt take out the hammer just because I wouldnt want to risk it striking home.

if your anywhere in OC I can possible help you
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do you live in a single story home ? apartment ?
take extra precaution when trying any of the methods suggested

You did a very very stupid thing
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could i remove the trigger parts without risking the hammer hitting the pin? then hit it with a hammer?
NO!!!!!!
DON'T DO THAT!
DO WHAT I POSTED EARLIER. Point at the ground and have another person hit the chraging handle.

When the FCG is removed the Safety comes out and the hammer falls. You could do it if you knew what you were doing but I'm not sure you can do it without that going off.
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We had a guy bring a Marlin 1894 Lever gun into the shop with a live round.....Not good but I got it out and made the rifle safe.
same thing with my buddies SKS, had a round stuck in the tube, I asked "its not a live round, right?" he ensured me several times it was a spent case. I kicked the charging handle with my boot and whattaya know, live round ejects
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do you live in a single story home ? apartment ?
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You did a very very stupid thing
expect a ration of crap for it...you deserve it.
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do you live in a single story home ? apartment ?
take extra precaution when trying any of the methods suggested

You did a very very stupid thing
expect a ration of crap for it...you deserve it.
Yeah i guess i do deserve a whole bunch of crap, and i live in a single story home in a rural area out in riverside county.
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same thing with my buddies SKS, had a round stuck in the tube, I asked "its not a live round, right?" he ensured me several times it was a spent case. I kicked the charging handle with my boot and whattaya know, live round ejects
I had never touched a lever gun before. I studied for a little while and completly took that apart, made it safe and reassembled into working order. Figured out what happened and told the dude he got luckey, the primer had a light impact.
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Yeah i guess i do deserve a whole bunch of crap, and i live in a single story home in a rural area out in riverside county.
let me know later on via PM if you have no luck
im prob signing off for a few
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I had never touched a lever gun before. I studied for a little while and completly took that apart, made it safe and reassembled into working order. Figured out what happened and told the dude he got luckey, the primer had a light impact.
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My fear is if the round goes off without the bolt fully shut. it could get real bad if it goes off. im not so much worried about the bullet as much as i am about the other metal parts blasting backward out of the chamber.
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Hey there!

I've had the exact same problem before with my AK pistol.
The only thing that worked was to jam the carrier handle backwards against a table or something to make the carrier slide back and eject the round. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS NECESSARILY THE RIGHT THING FOR YOUR SITUATION-ONLY THAT IT WORKED IN MINE. Of course, I only did this on a shooting range with the barrel pointed towards the targets...
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My fear is if the round goes off without the bolt fully shut. **** could get real bad if it goes off. im not so much worried about the bullet as much as i am about the other metal parts blasting backward out of the chamber.
OK once again, please do what I suggested. The round won't go off as long as you don't touch the trigger and you get the bolt to unlock. Keep it pointed at the ground and have another person hit the charging handle.

Trust me, I know my way around a gun.
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Hey there!

I've had the exact same problem before with my AK pistol.
The only thing that worked was to jam the carrier handle backwards against a table or something to make the carrier slide back and eject the round. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS NECESSARILY THE RIGHT THING FOR YOUR SITUATION-ONLY THAT IT WORKED IN MINE. Of course, I only did this on a shooting range with the barrel pointed towards the targets...
That is the standard POS commie gun clearing drill. He's at home not a range, that's why I suggested he have somebody else hit the handle while he keeps the rifle pointed at the ground.
Oh, soft ground too, no concrete.
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maybe thats my best choice
normally i would tell you that SJgunguy is lying to you , but having him on my Facebook and seeing his daily posts about AK this and Saiga that Ive come to the conclusion that the man knows his way around an AK/Saiga ... ARs , not so much
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before i go why do you think it locked down like that?
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WTF??? Who the hell is this?

OH, it could have locked up for any number of resons but I wouldn't worry about that now. Look at the case when you get it out, if there's any hard marks on it that could be the reason.
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so went out beat the hell out of it it moved back a bit but not enough to release the round.
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Put your recoil spring back in, take it off safe and try that again.
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I swear i will never use live ammo to test the gun, lesson learned!
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so went out beat the hell out of it it moved back a bit but not enough to release the round.
That's enough to push the round up from the bottom through the top.


OK, don't ever do that again unless you remove the firing pin.

My advice to you is read more before picking that up again.
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