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Old 11-02-2010, 10:36 PM
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Ok guys veterans day is coming up and I want to wear my medals and ribbons. Do I wear them medals on the left and ribbons on the right? Or do I just wear one or the other.
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Both go on the left, and you wear one or the other. Check your branch's regs, I only know the Army ones.

Also, are you currently active duty or reserve/National Guard, or are you retired/discharged?
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It depends on wether you are gonna use the mini medals or just the ribbons. If its just the ribbons then they go on the left.
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If you want to be classy, get the mini-medals and wear them on your left breast. Any honorably discharged veteran may wear all, some, or none of the decorations awarded to him or her at public events, like Veteran's Day. I will be wearing mine.
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If you are planning to wear your uniform, you might want to google it for proper regulation. However, if you are just planning to wear your ribbons and medals in civilian outfit, you can wear it anywhere you want to. My college always ask their veterans to wear their medals and ribbons right before the veteran day because there is no school on veteran day.
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Damned crucible Marines... check out
MOL for the precedence of the awards you rate. There is a picture of your awards in order.
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Either ribbons or medals, is the standard. Not both.
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Either ribbons or medals, is the standard. Not both.
Unless the award doesn't have a medal. Combat Action, Sea Service Deployment and such.
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Unless the award doesn't have a medal. Combat Action, Sea Service Deployment and such.
That usually doesn't matter. I can't speak for the Navy side of the house, but most services dictate by regulation that ribbons are not to be worn with medals.
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hate to step on your toes onesevendeuce, but medals and ribbons can be worn at the same time. If there is not a medal to go with the ribbon it can be worn. Dress blue "alphas" had medals on the left breast, ribbons on the right.
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hate to step on your toes onesevendeuce, but medals and ribbons can be worn at the same time. If there is not a medal to go with the ribbon it can be worn. Dress blue "alphas" had medals on the left breast, ribbons on the right.
Are you in the Navy? Like I said, I can't speak for the Navy. Other than that, cite the regulation or it's not true.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform...s_Marine_Corps

If you believe wikpedia, I dont have the Marine regs any longer, got out at the end of 2003. Look at the pics on the right side and read the text.

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If you believe wikpedia, I dont have the Marine regs any longer, got out at the end of 2003. Look at the pics on the right side and read the text.

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It's not about getting in a pissing match. It's just that people THINK they know about uniform regulations but never bother to look up the regulations. Many times they are wrong. So yeah, don't take it personally if I ask for a reference. But in any case, I did say I'm not sure about Navy regulations. Since you are in the Naval Infantry I can't comment on your regulations.
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Awww yes, the Marines are a Department of the Navy if that is what you are getting at....the men's department!! lol

Looks like the Army does it as well:
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Awww yes, the Marines are a Department of the Navy if that is what you are getting at....the men's department!! lol

Looks like the Army does it as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US...-A-UNIFORM.png
Yeah, the little men's department!

But no, the Army doesn't do it exactly. Those are unit awards. Not ribbons with no accompanying medals.
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Roger, then you know that AR 670-1 authorizes the wear of both ribbon and medals then?
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Roger, then you know that AR 670-1 authorizes the wear of both ribbon and medals then?
Not at the same time, bud.
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But seriously, if you can prove me wrong by citing a regulation, please do so. I'm always willing to be schooled. But I know the AR 670-1 pretty well having been an NCO. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
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http://downloads.army.mil/docs/asu/dress_classa_lo.jpg

Correct me if I am wrong, but that is from the Army web site per AR 670-1, and it looks like medals on one side and ribbons on the other.....
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Correct me if I am wrong, but that is from the Army web site per AR 670-1, and it looks like medals on one side and ribbons on the other.....
No bro. Like I said. Those are unit awards. The Army wears the unit awards on the right side. In the Army you wear unit awards on the right side, and medals on the left. However, you may not wear medals with ribbons. Personal ribbons are never worn on the right in the Army.
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OH GEEZ!!!!!!!!! I surrender to your stubborness, a ribbon is a ribbon, unit or personal, don't make a hill of beans.

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Well no, if that were the case then I could wear my overseas service ribbon, my Army service ribbon, my reserve overseas training ribbon, etc, on my right side. The whole question was based on whether you can wear ribbons that have no accompanying medal with your medals. In the REAL land combat force (the Army) you cannot. But hey, you sailors can do whatever you want.
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http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sit...CH5.htm#ur5201

See MCO 1020.34F Section 5202
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OneSevenDuece is correct, on the right hand side are unit awards, which there is not medal for, and all personal awards are on the left side. What the regs mean by not wearing ribbons and medals at the same time means that you cannot wear all of your personal awards as ribbons except say the Bronze Star because you like the look of the medal, that reg refers only to personal awards and with that they must all be one or the other.
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In the REAL land combat force (the Army) you cannot. But hey, you sailors can do whatever you want.
Say whaaa?

Look, Army, Marine, Navy or AF, we all have different regs..

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No bro. Like I said. Those are unit awards. The Army wears the unit awards on the right side. In the Army you wear unit awards on the right side, and medals on the left. However, you may not wear medals with ribbons. Personal ribbons are never worn on the right in the Army.
Even though they are unit awards, aren't they still "ribbons"?

If not, what the hell are they?
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OneSevenDuece is correct, on the right hand side are unit awards, which there is not medal for, and all personal awards are on the left side. What the regs mean by not wearing ribbons and medals at the same time means that you cannot wear all of your personal awards as ribbons except say the Bronze Star because you like the look of the medal, that reg refers only to personal awards and with that they must all be one or the other.
Those unit awards are still "ribbons".
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Even though they are unit awards, aren't they still "ribbons"?

If not, what the hell are they?
You aren't understanding the answer in the context of the question. Yes, it's true that unit awards are indeed made of ribbon. However the person was asking the question whether they can wear their PERSONAL ribbons, for which no medal is associated, on the right side of their uniform. The answer to that is no. Even though the pedantic answer to the general question of "Are ribbons of any sort worn on the right side?" would be yes.
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Those unit awards are still "ribbons".
Really now? What exactly is the point of your post? Fact of the matter is whether an individual is authorized to wear unit awards or not, they go on the right side, period. Personal awards go on the left side, period. If one chooses to wear the medals for their PERSONAL awards, then they must have just medals on the left side, period. If one chooses to wear the ribbons for their PERSONAL awards then every single one must be ribbons. Unit awards do not play into it at all.

AR 670-1 Chapter 29-8 b)How worn. Personnel wear all full-size decorations, except the Medal of Honor (see para c, below) in the order of
precedence from the wearer’s right to left, in one or more rows, with 1⁄8-inch space between rows. Second and
subsequent rows will not contain more medals than the row below. Personnel will not wear service and training ribbons
when full-size decorations and service medals are worn.

29–9. Wear of miniature decorations and service medals
a. Miniature medals are replicas of regular size medals, made to a scale of one-half the size of the original. Except
for the Medal of Honor, for which there is no miniature, only miniature decorations and service medals are authorized
for wear on the mess and evening mess uniforms. Personnel will not wear full-size medals, service and training
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29–11. Wear of U.S. and foreign unit awards
a. Description. Unit award emblems awarded with frames are worn with the laurel leaves of the frame pointing
upward. Unit awards are worn on the right side of the uniform, regardless of which service awarded them. Only one
emblem representing the same unit award is worn at one time. Personnel may wear unit awards when wearing full-size
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Well no, if that were the case then I could wear my overseas service ribbon, my Army service ribbon, my reserve overseas training ribbon, etc, on my right side. The whole question was based on whether you can wear ribbons that have no accompanying medal with your medals. In the REAL land combat force (the Army) you cannot. But hey, you sailors can do whatever you want.
Assuming the OP is a Marine based off of his SIG, then your entire argument is moot. If the OP is Army, with a Marine SIG, then you are correct and he is just trying to be a real man and pose as a Marine. You call yourself REAL land combat force... That's why every country on LAND fears the Corps taking control, not the Army We continue to be a department of the Navy, because at least they are useful in a fight!

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Assuming the OP is a Marine based off of his SIG, then your entire argument is moot. If the OP is Army, with a Marine SIG, then you are correct and he is just trying to be a real man and pose as a Marine. You call yourself REAL land combat force... That's why every country on LAND fears the Corps taking control, not the Army We continue to be a department of the Navy, because at least they are useful in a fight!


I gotta hand it to you marines. You have some interesting authors in the history of your organization.



You know why you guys are REALLY a department of the Navy? Because bringing sheep on board those ships would be too obvious. But hey, whatever you need to tell yourself, sailor. Haha.
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I gotta hand it to you marines. You have some interesting authors in the history of your organization.



You know why you guys are REALLY a department of the Navy? Because bringing sheep on board those ships would be too obvious. But hey, whatever you need to tell yourself, sailor. Haha.
Hey, at least the guy made something of himself haha. Then again, that Army guy could be the stunt double in the next "The Blob" film, whenever they decide to remake that one like every other movie Hollywood is coming out with... What are you doing reading that book anyways...?

At least we in the Marines don't have to wear hundreds of ribbons that we NEVER earned in/with our units to show off and prove we are cool. We just kick in doors. The mere thought of our organization strikes fear into the hearts of BILLIONS...

When a journalist asked him about being surrounded by 22 enemy divisions:

"They are a damn site better than the U.S. Army, at least we know that they will be there in the morning."
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Hey, at least the guy made something of himself haha. Then again, that Army guy could be the stunt double in the next "The Blob" film, whenever they decide to remake that one like every other movie Hollywood is coming out with... What are you doing reading that book anyways...?

At least we in the Marines don't have to wear hundreds of ribbons that we NEVER earned in/with our units to show off and prove we are cool. We just kick in doors. The mere thought of our organization strikes fear into the hearts of BILLIONS...

When a journalist asked him about being surrounded by 22 enemy divisions:

"They are a damn site better than the U.S. Army, at least we know that they will be there in the morning."
- Lt. Gen. Chesty Puller
Easy there, sailor. Let's not get into a discussion about awards that weren't earned. It's one thing for me to talk shirt about a bunch of homo jarheads but I wont denigrate someone's awards.

In any case, you are right about one thing. The marines do strike fear into the hearts of billions (of little Asian boys), and they definitely are a quality fighting force (compared to the girl scouts), and I for one would love to work with the marines (if you could ever get the Seamen off of them), because after all, don't ask don't tell wont be here forever, then you boys wont have to hide anything anymore!

Oh, and Chesty Puller was just upset that the Army has done more amphibious landings than the marine corps.

It's like a buddy of mine, who used to be stationed at NTC as OPFOR used to say...

"At least the Army will flank you. Those dumbass marines just rush straight into your machine gun fire."
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The Army just likes to try to come in from the back door. It's not so much a flanking maneuver as it is trying to properly position themselves. Their coordination is just so damn bad, they can never find the proper point of entry. Marines aren't afraid of no baby machine gun. Pfft. What is that thing gonna possibly do to a Marine?!

It's funny how the two laziest branches of our Armed Forces came out of the Army - There is the Army itself, and that uberlazy chAir Force...

Navy: Provides transportation and air cover.
Marine: Kills all the enemy stupid enough to fight back.
Army: Comes in behind the Marines and holds the area while the Marines kill somebody else.
Air Force: Eventually comes in and builds a BOQ and a PX.
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Here's one for you, sailor...

Two Marines boarded a quick shuttle flight out of Dallas, headed for Houston. One sat in the window seat, the other sat in the middle seat.

Just before take-off, A Soldier got on and took the aisle seat next to the two Marines. The Soldier kicked off his boots, wiggled his toes and was settling in when the Marine in the window seat said,"I think I'll get up and get a coke."

"No problem," said the Soldier, "I'll get it for you." While he was gone, the Marine picked up the Soldier's boot and spit in it.

When the Soldier returned with the coke, the other Marine said, "That looks good, I think I'll have one too."

Again, the Soldier obligingly went to fetch it and while he was gone, the Marine picked up the other boot and spit in it.

The Soldier returned and they all sat back and enjoyed the short flight to Houston.

As the plane was landing, the Soldier slipped his feet into his boots and knew immediately what had happened.

"How long must this go on?" the Soldier asked. "This fighting between our groups? This hatred? This animosity? This spitting in boots and pissing in cokes?"
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:55 AM
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All joking aside for a moment... One of the craziest things I saw while deployed to the Middle East was an E-Club on one of the Army camps. There were Army and Air Force personnel inside in civilian clothing having themselves a nice little dance party, complete with party lights and non-alcoholic beer... And these guys were earning combat pay! The same hazardous duty pay as the rest of us who actually saw combat, and half of them never left that camp! I had heard about those before, but thought they were just Urban Legends... Wow, was I proven wrong.
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:59 AM
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The Army just likes to try to come in from the back door.
Yeah, when it comes to your wives and girlfriends. Hahah, did you really set yourself up for that one?

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It's not so much a flanking maneuver as it is trying to properly position themselves. Their coordination is just so damn bad, they can never find the proper point of entry.
Not like those Sailors, who are used to finding the proper point of entry on you guys, eh? Good god, jarhead, haha!


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Marines aren't afraid of no baby machine gun. Pfft. What is that thing gonna possibly do to a Marine?!
You know, you are right about that. After dropping trou for the mess chief every night for extra pieces of cheesecake I'm sure nothing would scare you.


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It's funny how the two laziest branches of our Armed Forces came out of the Army - There is the Army itself, and that uberlazy chAir Force...
I'm glad you are happy with your association with the Navy. You know why the Navy got the marine corps and the Army got the K-9 corps, right? They had a big fight over who would get what, and the Navy lost.


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Navy: Provides transportation and anal cover.
Marine: Kills all the enemy stupid enough to try and pull the Seamen off of them.
Army: Rolls their eyes at all the homo going on and actually fights the war (not like those marines who deploy for 7 months and then go home to their Sailors).
Air Force: Eventually comes in and builds a BOQ and a PX (well, yeah. that's true).
Ok, you are actually right about this.
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