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Old 11-02-2010, 7:02 PM
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Default Pigeon hunting/Gamo air rifle

I went pigeon killing with my Gamo viper .177 cal . 1200 fps

This was a few weeks ago about 2 days worth.





palomas was what this mexican family said out loud as I gave them the pigeons they just love eating them.So it works out for me I just love killing them.
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Old 11-02-2010, 7:04 PM
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Pigeon on a fancy plate = squab.
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Old 11-02-2010, 7:06 PM
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UM.... I'm pretty sure that is illegal.
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Old 11-02-2010, 7:16 PM
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UM.... I'm pretty sure that is illegal.
you don't know much about game laws do you.

these are barn pigeons no limits or seasons.

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Old 11-02-2010, 7:27 PM
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No limits or seasons on lots of things, doesn't make them legal to kill. If you can show me in the regs where it is legal I would sincerely appreciate it . Thanks.
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PS those are Rock Doves , not barn pigeons.
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Old 11-02-2010, 7:45 PM
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Season's listed for Band-tailed Pigeons and doves but nothing listed for Rock doves.
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/regulations/10-11-upland-sum.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Pigeon

Would a pellet rifle be a legal method for taking a migratory bird? Would they be listed as migratory or a nuisance animal?

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Old 11-02-2010, 8:34 PM
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They are known as feral pigeons. Under CA depredation you don't even need a license to hunt them. What you do need is written permission from the land owner or one of his agents.

There is no season or bag limit. I shoot them all the time.
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Old 11-02-2010, 8:54 PM
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PS those are Rock Doves , not barn pigeons.
oh you were being funny I got it.
I call them barn pigeons because that's where they hang out in barns and crap on everything.
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Old 11-03-2010, 6:15 AM
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Pretty sure Band tailed pigeon are the gamebird and doubt you could use a pellet gun but not sure. Those pigeons the OP shot are like a flying rat and I believe they have no limit or restrictions on take.


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Season's listed for Band-tailed Pigeons and doves but nothing listed for Rock doves.
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/regulations/10-11-upland-sum.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Pigeon

Would a pellet rifle be a legal method for taking a migratory bird? Would they be listed as migratory or a nuisance animal?
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Old 11-03-2010, 6:24 AM
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I shoot feral pidgeons off my roof 2x a year or so. Gotta keep them from nesting.
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Taken from another thread,
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Well, here's DFG's official answer:

Hi John

Rock Doves, commonly called pigeons, are considered domestic only when they are being reared in captivity. Feral would be ones that were domestic and somehow released into the wild.

Rock doves in general are wild and regulated as non-game birds. Therefore, they cannot be "taken" unless under a depredation permit. These permit are issued only when requested and only with proof of property damage such as crop damage.

Hope this helps,

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Thats interesting. I had 2 friends that were shooting pigeons and were detained by SO deputys who wanted to have them cited for shooting out of season . They had looked up the bandtail hunting season and and confused the pigeons for bandtails. When DFG warden arrived he told the deputys my friends were doing nothing wrong and released them without a cite.
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Thats interesting. I had 2 friends that were shooting pigeons and were detained by SO deputys who wanted to have them cited for shooting out of season . They had looked up the bandtail hunting season and and confused the pigeons for bandtails. When DFG warden arrived he told the deputys my friends were doing nothing wrong and released them without a cite.
From what i heard, it used to be legal but is not anymore. IDK
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Chapter 6. Nongame Animals

472. General Provisions.

Except as otherwise provided in Sections 478 and 485 and subsections (a) through (d) below, nongame birds and mammals may not be taken.

(a) The following nongame birds and mammals may be taken at any time of the year and in any number except as prohibited in Chapter 6: English sparrow, starling, coyote, weasels, skunks, opossum, moles and rodents (excluding tree and flying squirrels, and those listed as furbearers, endangered or threatened species).

(b) Fallow, sambar, sika, and axis deer may be taken only concurrently with the general deer season.

(c) Aoudad, mouflon, tahr, and feral goats may be taken all year.

(d) American crows (Corvus brachyrhynchos) may be taken only under the provisions of Section 485 and by landowners or tenants, or by persons authorized in writing by such landowners or tenants, when American crows are committing or about to commit depredations upon ornamental or shade trees, agricultural crops, livestock, or wildlife, or when concentrated in such numbers and manner as to constitute a health hazard or other nuisance. Persons authorized by landowners or tenants to take American crows shall keep such written authorization in their possession when taking, transporting or possessing American crows. American crows may be taken only on the lands where depredations are occurring or where they constitute a health hazard or nuisance. If required by Federal regulations, landowners or tenants shall obtain a Federal migratory bird depredation permit before taking any American crows or authorizing any other person to take them.

American crows may be taken under the provisions of this subsection only by firearm, bow and arrow, falconry or by toxicants by the Department of Food and Agriculture for the specific purpose of taking depredating crows. Toxicants can be used for taking crows only under the supervision of employees or officers of the Department of Food and Agriculture or federal or county pest control officers or employees acting in their official capacities and possessing a qualified applicator certificate issued pursuant to sections 14151-14155 of the Food and Agriculture Code. Such toxicants must be applied according to their label requirements developed pursuant to sections 6151-6301, Title 3, California Code of Regulations.
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Old 11-03-2010, 4:08 PM
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This happened years ago so maybe. Ha ha ya learn something new everyday I always thought it was legal to shoot them .lol

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From what i heard, it used to be legal but is not anymore. IDK
From the DFG website
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Old 11-03-2010, 5:01 PM
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This response was in the same thread you took the other information from. It was also from Karen Fothergill at F & G a year earlier.


"You cannot find any regulations for the sport take of rock doves because they are an open season legal species to hunt in California. Rock doves may be taken anytime of year and there is no daily bag limit.

Please feel free to contact me if you have additional questions.

Karen

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I called Fish and Game a few years ago and was told by a F&G Captain that feral Pigeons can be taken all year with no limits. He referenced "Antwerp Pigeons" were protected from taking. I have an older full size F & G regulations book that the Wardens use for reference. I did find a reference section regarding the prohibited taking of"Antwerp Pigeons" (Homing & racing Pigeons). I'll have to dig out the book and find it.

I have been shooting feral Pigeons for many years. I have not seen any change in the regulations since then.
To make it clear,F & G should put feral Pigeons(Rock Doves) on the non game list with the English Sparrows and Starlings, since Rock Doves are not indigenous to the U.S.
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This makes me want to drive around natomas with my pellet rifle
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Old 11-04-2010, 7:18 AM
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Why would you give them away? Those are great table fare.
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^true
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Old 11-04-2010, 5:57 PM
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I have been wanting to eat one of the younger ones but every time they land is the cow Sh@t I change my mind.Not all but some land that way
I still have many left to kill.



Get out your air rifles and drive around the country side you guys should find some ranches that want them eradicated.
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