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Old 10-23-2010, 12:01 AM
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Default Bolt action AR-15

Anyone here have a bolt action ar15? Instead of buying a whole new gun to start hunting i'd like to try a bolt action ar15. Im not sure what caliber yet. I only heard about this type of upper today. Any help and info would be appreciated.
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:04 AM
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why do you need a bolt action to go hunting?
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probably cheaper to buy a bolt action rifle,then buying bolt action ar15 upper..IMO
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:21 AM
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I dont need a bolt action to hunt i just want one. It's probably cheaper to buy a rem 700 but I want to do something different and have spare a spare ar lower
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:24 AM
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I dont need a bolt action to hunt i just want one. It's probably cheaper to buy a rem 700 but I want to do something different and have spare a spare ar lower
its also cheaper to throw a spoiler on a sedan than it is to buy a sports car...

If you want a Remy700, then just get one!
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:47 AM
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Most of the bolt actions are larger cal that are very expensive to shoot, only single shot, and the upper is more expensive than a Rem 700. Some of the manufacturers are Bohica and Ferret I believe.
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Im very confused by the OPs reasoning, please elaborate.
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Old 10-23-2010, 8:22 AM
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I saw a website with a Lapuna .338 AR upper for about $1600 -

The wine hangover is preventing me from remembering where it was.

Google it...
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This is what you seek!

http://www.tactilite.com/

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Remove the gas tube and now you have a single shot..

Almost bolt action.
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Remove the gas tube and now you have a single shot..

Almost bolt action.
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get a Salvage cheaper then a upper and its a ok Bolt action although i would tell you save up a little more and get the 700
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Old 10-23-2010, 9:27 AM
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OP I think medesha arms works on the upper and bcg if you have an upper you that you want to modify.
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Old 10-23-2010, 9:30 AM
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Or just buy a gas block and fill it in...
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WTF?!

Unless it's a 50BMG upper who the heck would want to neuter and AR like that?

(Lapuna.................Made me chortle,....That's what one calls all those hot chicks leaving the night Clubs)
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I dont need a bolt action to hunt i just want one. It's probably cheaper to buy a rem 700 but I want to do something different and have spare a spare ar lower
If you want a bolt action AR, do it. Who cares what these guys say

I did a bolt action 6.5 Grendel, and it turned out nice. You are not restricted to a featureless configuration if you run a detachable mag. Also, there is no wasted gas/pressure so your ballistics increase (a little).

I used an Alexander Arms sidecharger upper


and a JP Industries adjustable gas block


Using the adjustment screw to close the gas system completely, you can make it single shot/bolt action. You can run an adjustable stock, forward grip, pistol grip, AND have a detachable mag!
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Whoa!................What was that sound?

I think it was Eugene Stoner rolling over in his grave!

Different Strokes for different folks......and that's definitely different!
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I have a feeling you want something like this?



http://jenseprecision.com/mak-tube-guns.html

Look up tube guns. And like everyone said before if you want a bolt action, get one. There is really no substitute.
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Here is a guy who made one:

http://tgfblog.wordpress.com/2009/02/01/bolt-action-ar/
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if you get a piston upper and turn off the piston, will it become a single shot?

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Old 10-23-2010, 10:21 PM
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if you get a piston upper and turn off the piston, will it become a single shot?
Doesn't have to be a piston gun. If you block the gas port of a DI or piston AR, it'll turn the rifle into a single shot.
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I had a bolt action M16A2 when I went through Marine Combat Training..bloody gas tube was plugged the entire time from all the blanks shot through it and the lack of cleaning!
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If you want a bolt action AR, do it. Who cares what these guys say

I did a bolt action 6.5 Grendel, and it turned out nice. You are not restricted to a featureless configuration if you run a detachable mag. Also, there is no wasted gas/pressure so your ballistics increase (a little).

I used an Alexander Arms sidecharger upper


and a JP Industries adjustable gas block


Using the adjustment screw to close the gas system completely, you can make it single shot/bolt action. You can run an adjustable stock, forward grip, pistol grip, AND have a detachable mag!
That is a really cool idea actually. could build a really awsome looking long range gun AND use my pile of prebans that are sitting around unused.
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Actually thinking about this some more this is a pretty badass idea.

Build a 6.5 grendel with a 20 or 24" bull barrel setup for long range. basicly like the guns posted above, long FF tube PRS stock, build it with a radlock X, side charger upper and full features. FH, pistol grip. Use an adjustable gas block as stated above and you would have a gun that with a turn of 2 screws could go from being a 10rnd BB semi to a "featureless" sort of bolt gun that could still use a pistol grip, preban high caps and a FH.

Thats BADASS IMO. something looking like this..


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I am pretty sure this isn't what you were looking for but the AR-15 is a bolt action rifle, it's just that typically the bolt is actuated by high pressure gasses from the powder. If you watch the Olympic Triathlon (I think that is the correct name of the event) they use straight pull bolts on their target rifles (as did the Steyer Mannlicher, spelling?). As others have already mentioned, an AR-15 can quite easily be converted to a straight pull bolt system by simply plugging the gas port (using a JP adjustable gas block or just plugging a gas block). Ideally you could get a barrel with no gas port at all, but as simple as that sounds it is probably much easier to find a barrel with the gas port already drilled.

If you don't like loading with the charging handle then use one of the side charging handle conversions (requires a different upper receiver and bolt carrier).

By the way has anyone done any testing to see how the accuracy of an AR-15 changes when the gas port is plugged? It would seem to me that the basic design of the AR would lend itself to extremely good accuracy (well at least with a heavy barrel and full float tube). I would suspect that the movement of the bolt and the pressure of the gas in the gas tube would cause some potentially unpredictable movement of the barrel and entire rifle, but with the port closed the AR is just a single shot bolt action with a straight pull bolt.
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its also cheaper to throw a spoiler on a sedan than it is to buy a sports car...

If you want a Remy700, then just get one!
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Actually thinking about this some more this is a pretty badass idea.

Build a 6.5 grendel with a 20 or 24" bull barrel setup for long range. basicly like the guns posted above, long FF tube PRS stock, build it with a radlock X, side charger upper and full features. FH, pistol grip. Use an adjustable gas block as stated above and you would have a gun that with a turn of 2 screws could go from being a 10rnd BB semi to a "featureless" sort of bolt gun that could still use a pistol grip, preban high caps and a FH.

Thats BADASS IMO. something looking like this..

I have seen those side charger system but I was wondering how the reduction in linear and torsional rigidity might effect accuracy. Have you seen or done any side by side comparisons between side charging and regular charging rifles?
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Here's a good example - http://www.davidtubb.com/t2k.html

And these guns dominate the HP matches.

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An AR-15 is a bolt action gun. It's an autoloading, gas assisted, bolt action gun.
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I have seen those side charger system but I was wondering how the reduction in linear and torsional rigidity might effect accuracy. Have you seen or done any side by side comparisons between side charging and regular charging rifles?
The one thats pictured is a DPMS slick sided upper and it has very thick side walls. I would imagine (no actual testing data) that it is still plenty strong with the extra cut in it. alot of really accurate AR's are built this way. such as..

This one.

This idea is really intriguing to me and I will probably build one of these in the future. My brother has been talking about doing a 6.5 grendel and this would be great for that. The manual bolt operation would slow down the shooting process a bit and help the barrel cool and make your less than cheap ammo last longer.
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damn you California!! this is ridiculous....in a free state this wouldn't even be i logical thought. damn you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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