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Old 01-31-2012, 12:37 PM
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The Constitution is my concealed carry permit. I know conceal carry is "against the law" but so is selling Marijuana and the state doesn't seam to mind to turn a blind eye against that. The civil rights movement would have been nothing if lawyers just filed lawsuits against the state. During Christmas dinner my grandmother said she didn't feel safe and wanted to get a gun to keep in her purse so she walked into the gun store and the guy working told her that was against the law and basically kicked her out. It is VERY dangerous when a civilian is more afraid of the state punishing them for breaking a law, rather than their personal safety.
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Per the California DoJ, Yolo is not issuing 300 permits per year. As of September it was 125 with 11 pending for the year of 2011. That is an increase of 43 from the previous year at the same time.

Go to http://calgunsfoundation.org/news-bl...tatistics.html and download the data obtained from DoJ. Page 4 has all the counties listed and the approved application numbers.

While it may be increasing it is no where near 300 a year which might give some hope for our small county. I wish anyone seeking a permit in Yolo good luck with the endeavor and hopefully someday we will be a shall issue county.

I'm happy to say I won't be here when that happens as I'm on the short timers express out of this state... Can't want for March!
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Old 02-10-2012, 7:42 PM
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Your right Shellshocker66. but we have had over a 50% increase in issuance.
Not the best but moving in the right direction.
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Yolo update here.

A recent amendment to the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act, now makes me a "qualified officer" and exempts me from state/county law that would otherwise prevent me from carrying a concealed weapon.

I applied with Yolo County Sheriff for CCW about 3 weeks ago, only listing my qualification and exempt status as just cause, and was denied.

I guess it was a little bit of wishful thinking, that if I'm authorized to carry regardless of the local Sheriff, why wouldn't he just take my money and issue me?

In the end, Yolo county still seems a bit silly, and definitely a little dismissive of just about everything that I discussed with them on the issue. Right down to the girls at the front counter.

Oh well. Good Luck with Yolo!
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Richards v. Prieto/Yolo County should have an opinion out in the next 90 days or so.

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Gene, my denial letter said I can re-apply no sooner that one year from denial. Is that legal?
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Gene, my denial letter said I can re-apply no sooner that one year from denial. Is that legal?
No, it's not, on separate state law grounds. However, Richards would blast a hole through that policy, and if they attempt to enforce that after a positive ruling on our side...well...I'd hate to be county counsel on that...
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Gene, my denial letter said I can re-apply no sooner that one year from denial. Is that legal?
You can ignore that utterly for both state (and once we win in Kachalsky/Richards) federal reasons.

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Gene, my denial letter said I can re-apply no sooner that one year from denial. Is that legal?
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No, it's not, on separate state law grounds. However, Richards would blast a hole through that policy, and if they attempt to enforce that after a positive ruling on our side...well...I'd hate to be county counsel on that...
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You can ignore that utterly for both state (and once we win in Kachalsky/Richards) federal reasons.

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Dont you just love it when issuing agencies memorialize illegal polices on their official letterhead?
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Dont you just love it when issuing agencies memorialize illegal polices on their official letterhead?
But they're heads of law enforcement and therefor all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others...

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Richards v. Prieto/Yolo County should have an opinion out in the next 90 days or so.

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Please keep us informed. I am another Yoyo County resident wanting a CCW.
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Ive just started to consider a ccw.

Thanks for the info. I'll be eager to find out the outcome as well.
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Well, taking into consideration that only accepting one application per year isn't entirely legal, I submitted another application outlining my standing as a a qualified officer under LEOSA. I worded it as if I was applying again for the first time, and 2 months to day after submitting the app, I got it back in the mail with a new letter stating once again that I cant re-apply until 1 year from my denial. Still no actual reason for denial.

I'll be sending in a personal letter respectfully asking why, if I'm exempt from state law, and authorized under federal law, would the Sheriff not consider issuing me for instances where my agency prevents me from carrying off duty.

I'll update if I get another canned response....
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Old 04-06-2013, 1:04 PM
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By the way, I cant find anything specifically listing a timeline, or how often/how many applications can be submitted. I browsed PC 26150, and didn't see anything about a Sheriff refusing applications.

I would like to at least be able to reference a PC if I question the refusal of my application.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:29 AM
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By the way, I cant find anything specifically listing a timeline, or how often/how many applications can be submitted. I browsed PC 26150, and didn't see anything about a Sheriff refusing applications.

I would like to at least be able to reference a PC if I question the refusal of my application.
Its not PC but case law.

What you are looking for is Salute v Pitchess


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(2) While a court cannot compel a public officer to exercise his discretion in any particular manner, it may direct him to exercise that discretion. (1b) We regard the case at bench as involving a refusal of the sheriff to exercise the discretion given him by the statute. Section 12050 imposes only three limits on the grant of an application to carry a concealed weapon: the applicant must be of good moral character, show good cause and be a resident of the county. To determine, in advance, as a uniform rule, that only selected public officials can show good cause is to refuse to consider the existence of good cause on the part of citizens generally and is an abuse of, and not an exercise of, discretion.
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It is the duty of the sheriff to make such an investigation and determination, on an individual basis, on every application under section 12050.
So, in essense, every application submitted with 20% of the local fee is according to the court an obligation to the Sheriff to investigate and determine for the applicant whether good cause exists.
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Old 04-09-2013, 7:20 PM
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Does anyone know if they prefer the Yolo Sportsman CCw class or can you take the 16 hr classes in sac?
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Sheriff E. G. Prieto - the worst of all possibilities - A Liberal Politician with a gun, and he won't let you have yours. Nice. I've had dealings with him while on the Grand Jury - not good.
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I'm thinking about next election. Any other Yolo County gun owners also thinking about the next election?
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Any updates on this case. I live in West Sacramento, thinking about getting a ccw. Funny how I fall under Yolo County for this but anyway. Eager to know of any updates.
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Richards v. Prieto/Yolo County should have an opinion out in the next 90 days or so.

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Gene, we're more than 90 days. What's the word?
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I take it this is a dead issue now?
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Bump! Love more insight on this...hope its not a dead issue, as I still want a CCW in Yolo
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I'm new to yolo county. How possible is it to apply and get one? I heard from a friend that in Sacramento u apply wait and get one.
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I'm new to yolo county. How possible is it to apply and get one? I heard from a friend that in Sacramento u apply wait and get one.
Yolo is notorious for being extremely difficult to get your CCW in. Hence this thread, read from the beginning.

Sac County is a breeze next to yolo...
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Old 09-20-2013, 9:40 AM
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Is there a list of approved ccw classes for yolo? I called the sheriffs office and they said there was a list of vendors on there website, but couldn't find it.
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Personally I never bothered because of all the restrictions and "good causes" but would be curious if the mood has changed for the better. And on a side note, I did read some earlier posts about Yolo Sportsman and have to agree with most of them.

I haven't renewed my membership for a couple of years now due to mainly the uncontrolled aspect of shooting there. I wish I had the money to donate for a red/green light timer system for shooting and cease fires. I know myself and many others I've spoken to would be the first to renew if that would ever
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Have had one too many issues there when I was a member on the line regarding safety and it only takes once so I am not a gambler when it comes to that. I would love to continue to support them but that for me is a big issue.
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Personally I never bothered because of all the restrictions and "good causes" but would be curious if the mood has changed for the better. And on a side note, I did read some earlier posts about Yolo Sportsman and have to agree with most of them.

I haven't renewed my membership for a couple of years now due to mainly the uncontrolled aspect of shooting there. I wish I had the money to donate for a red/green light timer system for shooting and cease fires. I know myself and many others I've spoken to would be the first to renew if that would ever
happen.

Have had one too many issues there when I was a member on the line regarding safety and it only takes once so I am not a gambler when it comes to that. I would love to continue to support them but that for me is a big issue.
Ah that's too bad, Yolo Sportsman's is my favorite range. I do agree that I have had one too many muzzles pointed in my direction. My brother went there last weekend and said some yay-who parked, got out of his car with a rifle in hand (no case) and "swept" the range with a closed chamber. He got a talking to, but was still allowed to shoot. If it were my range, I'd have drawn on him. Then again, good thing I'm not a range officer haha
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Is there a list of approved ccw classes for yolo? I called the sheriffs office and they said there was a list of vendors on there website, but couldn't find it.
If you still need a list , PM me and ill send you a copy
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Yuba College Community Education holds a eight-hour concealed weapons class at the Yolo Sportsman's Association. All students must have their own weapons and ammunition for the class. The fee is cheeeeep and it is well under 100.00
To register, call 741-6825. I have known the instructor for years and he is very good.
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Yolo requires 16 hours as of 2013 ..
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Its about time. The more education the better. Simply owning a handgun doesn’t make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician.
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Yuba College Community Education holds a eight-hour concealed weapons class at the Yolo Sportsman's Association. All students must have their own weapons and ammunition for the class. The fee is cheeeeep and it is well under 100.00
To register, call 741-6825. I have known the instructor for years and he is very good.
Still doesn't help with the problems of Yolo residents receiving CCWs...but thanks for the info
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If you still need a list , PM me and ill send you a copy
Thanks kodeman. I called the sheriffs office. They sent me the list if vendors.

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Yolo requires 16 hours as of 2013 ..
When I called they told me it was still 8 hrs. I'll verify again tomorrow.

Edit: verified 16 hrs

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Yuba College Community Education holds a eight-hour concealed weapons class at the Yolo Sportsman's Association. All students must have their own weapons and ammunition for the class. The fee is cheeeeep and it is well under 100.00
To register, call 741-6825. I have known the instructor for years and he is very good.
Yolo sportsman only has renewal classes. Yuba college ccw initial classes are held at the college with a trip to the sheriffs shooting range for qualification.

Next class is this October 19th. Last I saw, 16 spots left.
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Give Baptist security training a call , he is in Vacaville and will hold your training for whatever day you want him to . Very easy to deal with and cost is only $90 & he is on the new yolo list ... I went to him not that long ago for my permit .
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JPagaduan - Fell free to Pm me with any questions . I just finished the process successfully with Yolo county .
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JPagaduan - Fell free to Pm me with any questions . I just finished the process successfully with Yolo county .
You got your CCW in Yolo? Do tell....
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You got your CCW in Yolo? Do tell....
Yes I did , a few weeks ago. Took about 3-4 months total from initial app till I received my permit. My GC is that im a general contractor . No issues at all , very smooth all in all. Had a slight issue with the CCW instructor I went to , they changed their approved list during my app process and I had to go take another class from a instructor on the new list.
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Question for the group: Am applying for Yolo CCW, as a resident of Woodland. In my application packet, the requirement to show "proof" of ownership of weapons that I qualified with and that I will ask to have placed on my permit, the DOJ Firearms letter shows MORE than the three I wish to have on the permit. Should I redact the other weapons and only allow the three to have placed on the permit be shown? If so, will the issuing authority feel I am being deceitful? Thanks for any assistance in advance.
I wouldn't worry about showing all the handguns that are on there .. Shouldn't make any difference , just proving that the ones you are listing on your permit are registered to you. Kodi
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I wouldn't worry about showing all the handguns that are on there .. Shouldn't make any difference , just proving that the ones you are listing on your permit are registered to you. Kodi
Thanks so much Kodi!
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