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Old 12-31-2012, 7:57 AM
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I have my first interview just after the new year. I am an attorney who deals in significant amount of cash, and works late into the night on occassion. If all they want to see is the deposits, then I'm good with that. The balances and the rest of it are none of their business.

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Second interview today to bring in more papers. What they wanted was, since I'm active duty, a letter from my boss and a letter from the Base Commander Camp Pendelton (2 star Gen). Instead of a letter from a 2 star, which the PMO said he would not entertain, I have a letter from my Commanding Officer and registered the weapons I will carry with the base.
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Second interview today to bring in more papers. What they wanted was, since I'm active duty, a letter from my boss and a letter from the Base Commander Camp Pendelton (2 star Gen). Instead of a letter from a 2 star, which the PMO said he would not entertain, I have a letter from my Commanding Officer and registered the weapons I will carry with the base.
UPDATE: Was told there will be about a 45 day wait. A panel will look at my request and if denied I can appeal. The appeal, from what I gathered, is a face to face interview with an Assistant Sheriff. More to follow.
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For those in the know, any idea what the "cash deposit" requirements are to be considered? Previous posters mentioned they were asked to provide deposit slips, etc. I am curious what type of gross deposits SDSD is looking for.

There is clearly no legal minimum here, but depositing $5,000 in cash per year clearly won't make the imaginary line to be considered "legit" in this county.
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For those in the know, any idea what the "cash deposit" requirements are to be considered? Previous posters mentioned they were asked to provide deposit slips, etc. I am curious what type of gross deposits SDSD is looking for.

There is clearly no legal minimum here, but depositing $5,000 in cash per year clearly won't make the imaginary line to be considered "legit" in this county.

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Is it just on my end, or are the good cause statements no longer available from the link? Any idea where to get the previously linked info?
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So I'm active duty stationed down in San Diego and when I called to ask about getting a concealed carry permit they told me they did not give them to active duty military...no questions...just no
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So I'm active duty stationed down in San Diego and when I called to ask about getting a concealed carry permit they told me they did not give them to active duty military...no questions...just no
Huh, Just picked mine up last Wednesday. Depends on why you are telling them you need it I guess.
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Had first interview on Thursday. I am a Physician Assistant carry prescription pads, previously employed at a federal prison, now any search engine reveals my location. The young lady who conducted the interview didn't even take my application. She wrote down my personal statement, disappeared with my drivers license for 5 minutes. When she returned and said, "I'm sorry, we don't give a ccw because of fear". Fear? When I was employed by US DOJ, they were concerned enough to classify my plates. Now if you type my name in a search engine, anybody (including previous inmates) can locate my place of employment. Not to mention I carry prescription pads. If this isn't good cause, not quite sure what is. It would be nice to at least get a written valid reason for denial. Frustrated. Pepper spray it is.
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I carry prescription pads. If this isn't good cause, not quite sure what is. It would be nice to at least get a written valid reason for denial.

I'm not being a smart-alecky, but I think you stumbled on the real reason for denial. In lieu of having a valid reason, it's easier for them to just deny them all or at least the majority.
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Had first interview on Thursday. I am a Physician Assistant carry prescription pads, previously employed at a federal prison, now any search engine reveals my location. The young lady who conducted the interview didn't even take my application. She wrote down my personal statement, disappeared with my drivers license for 5 minutes. When she returned and said, "I'm sorry, we don't give a ccw because of fear". Fear? When I was employed by US DOJ, they were concerned enough to classify my plates. Now if you type my name in a search engine, anybody (including previous inmates) can locate my place of employment. Not to mention I carry prescription pads. If this isn't good cause, not quite sure what is. It would be nice to at least get a written valid reason for denial. Frustrated. Pepper spray it is.
You have to complete the second interview to get the denial letter. If you do that they are required by law to do this. It will come in the U.S. Mail.
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Huh, Just picked mine up last Wednesday. Depends on why you are telling them you need it I guess.
What did you tell them? I called and asked what the process was and whether or not Pendleton fell under SD or Orange and they said that they don't give them to active duty military...
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Slightly off topic but, just so people know...

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblog...iff-next-year/

Bill Gore files to re-up as sheriff next year

County's lawman-in-chief is veteran fundraiser from tribal casinos, prison vendor, hotel mogul, and very old boys network

Matt Potter, May 13, 2013

San Diego county Sheriff and ex-FBI man Bill Gore has filed a statement of intention to run for re-election next year and has set up a newly formed campaign committee to fund the effort.

As previously reported, Gore has a knack for money raising, as evidenced by the $45,000 in corporate and tribal donations he hustled up for the California State Sheriffs' Association’s annual conference, held in San Diego in early April of last year.

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There is no second interview. They just told me no. Maybe I'll call them back.
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There is no second interview. They just told me no. Maybe I'll call them back.
They are required by law to accept your application. You must demand they accept it. If they don't then they're breaking the law.
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There is no second interview. They just told me no. Maybe I'll call them back.
I believe that when they deny in this fashion, you are not considered an official application therefore, there is no official denial. In this way, the city can make the claim that they approve a good portion of submitted applications.

It's a numbers game. Emphasis on GAME.

Maybe flyonwall has the right idea (of course, I would NOT officially proceed with a massive application push without the blessings of the CGF network!): http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=804424
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I believe that when they deny in this fashion, you are not considered an official application therefore, there is no official denial. In this way, the city can make the claim that they approve a good portion of submitted applications.

It's a numbers game. Emphasis on GAME.

Maybe flyonwall has the right idea (of course, I would NOT officially proceed with a massive application push without the blessings of the CGF network!): http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=804424
If this is the case they are about to have a lot more denials...I'm on terminal leave and have nothing better to do
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I'm to submit mine application once TPTB says its time to barrage them with applications.

//getting tired of waiting. Sad commentary that it was easier to get 3 out of state permits than one where I live.
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I'm to submit mine application once TPTB says its time to barrage them with applications.

//getting tired of waiting. Sad commentary that it was easier to get 3 out of state permits than one where I live.
TPTB?
And yep, got most of the country covered EXCEPT where I live.
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Just copying my post from, well, my own thread

Yes, she said the next appointment/interview, will then get me the denial letter in the mail in 30-60 days

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OK, just got back from the San Diego Sheriff's office and here's the lowdown:

First, they take no paperwork from you at all, other than taking your driver's license and making a copy of it. They ask you questions (jail, military experience, LE applications, if I owned any firearms, etc.), and ask why you want a CCW. She took notes on this. When I told her for self-preservation/protection, she referred me to the section in the application where it explains if you are applying for those reason, you need to attach reports, actual incidents, names, locations, etc. I told her I didn't have any of those and wanted to protect myself before those things happened. She said there would be a HIGH likelihood it would get denied. I told her I knew that, but wanted to proceed anyway.

OK, she then walked through the procedure, said I needed to fill out the application, in full, make another appointment, with her, bring a check for $105.63 for fingerprinting and fees, and she would submit my application. She then said it would go to a review board, and they would make the decision and get back to me by mail. Also, to bring in 2 forms of residency dated within the last 30 days, other than your driver's license.

She also said the application I brought with me was old - I got it off the San Diego CGN site in this forum. The new one is here: http://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

So, I will fill out the new one, write a check, get a couple of bank statements, make an appointment and go from there!

While I was there, I saw someone there to renew their current CCW, and a new applicant, a woman, to get a CCW. No info on these people, just noted.

I'll keep you posted!
Again, I don't expect to get a CCW from this...just walking through the procedure.
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What did you tell them? I called and asked what the process was and whether or not Pendleton fell under SD or Orange and they said that they don't give them to active duty military...
Been off for a while but sent you a PM.
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Moved from Seattle to San Diego, had CCW in Seattle.
Please advise what/where to read about:
1) CCW process here;
2) laws about keeping guns at home, transportation to range, etc. without CCW.
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Moved from Seattle to San Diego, had CCW in Seattle.
Please advise what/where to read about:
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2) laws about keeping guns at home, transportation to range, etc. without CCW.
IMHO, forget about a CCW if you live in San Diego! Apparently, you have to be both politically connected and a contributor to the election fund of our *wonderful* (hack, hack, cough, cough...) sheriff.

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I've been recently told, by a source in the know, to wait. Wait for the 9th circuit opinion to come out.

....any day now, any day. How about tomorrow?
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I've been recently told, by a source in the know, to wait. Wait for the 9th circuit opinion to come out.

....any day now, any day. How about tomorrow?
Someone correct me if I am wrong but...
Let's say it was yesterday.
Sheriff Gore will drag his feet in every way imaginable I am sure.
Can you hear it now? We just can't spare the extra manpower or can't afford it. Or anything else he would put in place to make it a very difficult process.

Reciprocity with others states would be the best way, then we don't have to deal with that joker. Not sure if that is possible or in the cards though.
Anyone know if that is possible?
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That's why I didn't wait...I knew it wouldn't go anywhere, so...I just did it. Still haven't gotten my denial letter in the mail yet...it's only been 4 weeks - no contact at all...
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Someone correct me if I am wrong but...
Let's say it was yesterday.
Sheriff Gore will drag his feet in every way imaginable I am sure.
Can you hear it now? We just can't spare the extra manpower or can't afford it. Or anything else he would put in place to make it a very difficult process.
Feel the same way.

In a previous thread on the subject, when people talked about "self protection" CCW in San Diego happening in a year or two, I predicted 8-10 years - mostly due to my own pessimism.

Looking now like my pessimistic 8-10 years was optimistic.
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Why not equal protection of the law? It seems to me that if we are a "may issue" state and just 1 state employee (Sheriff) issues, then to be in compliance with the Constitution they all would have to issue using the same barometer. It would lend to the argument that laws are black and white, not grey. There should be no "may issue" at all, you either do or you don't. Just the fact that ALL the Sheriffs do an extensive background check before they issue is "may issue" in an of itself. Words, and definitions of words are important. Technically, the way I see it, if it is not Constitutional carry then it is "may issue". So why does a group of citizens get more ability to defend themselves or their loved ones than I do, based solely on the county to which I reside?

Obviously, I am not an attorney or I would know why this cannot be used as an argument against the "no issue for personal defense" Sheriffs. I mean the other counties have published good cause statements that include "personal self defense" as acceptable, so it would stand to reason that they all should accept that to be in compliance with the COTUS. So what am I missing? Or is it not attacked this way because we are afraid of loosing ground?
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Any update on when the floodgates will be opened and we all start the application process in light of the 9th circus ruling?
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Not soon I'd guess. Everything's on hold pending rehearings, appeals, etc. at the moment.
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Everyone who wants to apply in San Diego should apply now. The more the better! I already did! See my post here & here.
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My appointment is 3/11 I will try to make it the 1st & 2nd - I see no need for a 2nd since I've done this all before in Sept 2013!
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Everyone who wants to apply in San Diego should apply now. The more the better! I already did! See my post here & here.
It may be wise to get an appointment now, although legally nothing have changed. Depending on the course of action San Diego takes, there may be a window between the District count mandate/judgement in Peruta and a stay pending writ to SCOTUS (assuming they do not go en banc, or it en banc is denied - I think that Kozinski won't want to hear it).

The most interesting factor is the press release from SD Sheriff's

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State law mandates that they must respond to your application within 90 days, or 30 days from receiving your background check, whichever is later. The "held in abeyance" is just a CYA to avoid another 1983 suit from someone who is denied. Some more "on the fence" counties may see the writing on the wall, but I think San Diego is going to need an order from the District Court before the policy is officially changed.
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I Went in to change a weapon on my CCW this week. The licensing unit is scheduling first time apps out to late May right now.

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I Went in to change a weapon on my CCW this week. The licensing unit is scheduling first time apps out to late May right now.
That is the truth. A coworker said his appointment is May 19. His brother an hour earlier was scheduled for May 5th.
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Old 02-20-2014, 9:45 AM
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They are now booking appointments into the second week of June.

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Originally Posted by lorax3 View Post
It may be wise to get an appointment now, although legally nothing have changed.
You could be right! I however, think (and hope) that events will take a different course.

IMO, This case was the legal bombshell we have been waiting for. I think at this juncture in time that Sheriff Gore has no choice but to change is policies on issuance of permits. I also believe that this is the tipping point for California and Peruta will become the keystone upon which we will begin to normalize the Second Amendment in California. If Heller is the bedrock, and McDonald is the foundation stone, Peruta will be the keystone for us.

As far as I am concerned, the decision in Peruta is airtight. The panel undertook a complete historical analysis of the right and arrived at the correct conclusion. The panel went so far as to show why their sister courts, the Second, Third, and Fourth circuits were all wrong. (Because they failed to perform the same historical analysis, and instead simply pointed to the AG's arguments as proof enough).

At any rate, this really isn't the thread for this kind of discussion, I just wanted to respond share my thoughts.

On a personal note, I hope you are doing well!

I will reiterate, that I think everyone that wants a permit should make an appointment. I believe too that the appointment system is, or soon will be DOOMED. It is an ineffective use of peoples time and is just a dumb hurdle to obtain the permit (to exercise your right). Therefore I do predict significant changes in the procedures at the Sheriffs office.
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