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I "think" that the renewal fee is $100 and the process/class is fairly painless AFAIK...but I'll verify and reply when I know more.
EDIT: (Here goes nothin') 1. You will receive a letter before your renewal date BUT you can't submit the required "questionnaire/application" until 60 days prior to your renewal date. 2. I "think" that the fees are in three (3) checks/MOs etc and the amounts are $52/$24/$25 but what they are for is unknown (at least to me at this time). 3. I "think" it would be a good idea to bring a copy of your initial "approved" application to help you remember dates etc. in case the short application asks. (I can't remember what I did yesterday) 4. I "think" that the "personal protection" is still a valid SBDo "good cause" statement. YMMVOC Last edited by quikduk; 04-13-2011 at 10:36 AM.. |
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Standard CCW renews every two years. |
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I was just looking at the SB County Local CCW Policy, Guidelines & Forms page and it looks to me like it changed because I no longer see the requirement for the three CCW references. I see the requirement for the four personal references is still there. Did something change or am I missing it.
http://calgunsfoundation.org/downloa...Bernardino.pdf Also, if the standard DOJ application is what they are supposed to use why is their application so involved. Work history, residence history, traffic tickets, etc. |
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I'm currently working on SBC with CGF.
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I don't recall there ever being a requirement for references from 3 others who hold a valid CCW. At least, that's not been the case since 2005 when I first looked into the requirements.
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There's no requirement to have references from people who hold a CCW. I think he means references FOR a CCW.
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-What do the letters on my behalf need to say?
-I have my references and printed the online PDF file. Where do I list my 4 references and what information do I need? -What amount money order do I need when I drop off my application? |
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We're very close to working on the SB policy issues. Those who don't mind the hoops the SBSO have applicants jump through should feel free to apply now.
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Just got a new neighbor and he's currently in the category of "I don't want him to know that I own guns, much less am applying for CCW" He's older and seems like a nice guy, but still has a bit of the "banger" look. Thanks, but I'll wait until the hoops are cleared. No, wait... we want to keep Hoops, at least he will issue for personal protection ![]()
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SBC is 'virtually' virtual shall issue so you have a fairly good chance of getting a CCW if you apply. HOWEVER, they do have a lot of illegal requirements. I am personally working on this matter with the CGF and I suggest you wait until I get in touch with them over these issues. Of course, if you don't mind the illegal requirements you could just apply now. Again though, I suggest you wait.
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I don't like some of the goofy policies at SBSD, but I would say that if you want your CCW you should apply. Department is very CCW friendly, but has always had a bit of a maverick attitude towards the way it does things.
Kingsfan, the letters can be as simple as "I have known kingsfan for x number of years. I know him to be of good character. I know he is applying for a license to carry a concealed weapon. If you need to contact me, I may be reached at 909-867-5309 Signed kingsfan's friend" The only application they will accept is the one they give you. They number them. On the cover sheet it will include the amounts of the money orders and who they should be made out to. Letter writers get a phone call, references get a half page questionnaire. References don't need to be anybody special, just not relatives. Cokebottle, during the interview just mention that the one neighbor looks a bit sketchy and you are worried about them knowing you have any guns. I think the neighborhood check is unnecessary, and they don't always do them, but the stubborn streak in the SD is about a mile wide, who knows how long it will take to change the policy. I appreciate those trying to correct the wrongs here, but don't let those wrongs stop you from applying if you want your CCW. |
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If they'd not contact my employer, the rest I can deal with. HR people where I work are not gun friendly. I'm sure they'd freak out and I'd end up with much unwanted attention. I can wait a bit longer.
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I understand that. My boss's boss had a bit of a tizzy about it until our HR department told him it was none of his business as long as I followed company policy. HR departments are about staying within the law. Generally they will give you the least guff about things.
Ultimately it is a personal decision, I wish the SD didn't feel it necessary to do that thorough of a background investigation, or at least keep the CCW angle out of it and just call it part of a routine background investigation. |
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What if I am the employer?
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And old age too. I know someone who doesn't really have any contacts because they've passed away.
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Everything in its order. SBCSO is moving up to the top quickly. Allow some time for this new lawsuit to circulate, as well as some other things we have working in the background, and we'll let everyone know next steps ASAP. -Brandon
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While "low hanging fruit" is easier to pick, in the interests of expanding freedom to more residents of California, I would expect the "right denied" counties to be the first attacked.
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There are specific laws, facts, and conditions which inform the overall strategy. Also, can anyone really predict where we're going next, what we're doing, and why? I didn't think so. That works for us. -Brandon
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Quite true.
A little low hanging fruit to set a good precedent, then a serious attack. Lather, rinse, repeat. Or as Gene says... "Chess, not checkers"
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I'm new to Calguns and have spent many hours reading posts and learning, maybe someone can pm me regarding the process and any possible things I can do before I apply for a CCW, Thanks for all the hard work done on this site!!
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now i have a question i have read where you say your working on making it easyier has anything changed yet? i will do more reading and probably be asking alot more question i hope no one minds. where is the best place to start in getting ready to get my ccw i am looking at going next month to do what ever paper work i need to do and anything else. ok now i need a link to the best place to start reading lol thank you everyone for your input thanks rob |
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As of now there haven't been any changes to SBSD policies, but we're working on it. You have two choices 1) you can apply now and go through all of their illegal requirements, or 2) you can wait until the policies change. And unfortunately there isn't an ETA on that. IF you choose to just go ahead and apply I'd like you to contact me over PM because I'll have questions about their policies that I'd like to get confirmed. Good luck!
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And don't forget... SBC needs more sponsors.
We're currently sitting on only FOUR individual sponsors for a total of $600... and $300 of that $600 was my contribution (and will likely be sending a similar contrib next spring). We've got no vendor sponsors yet. So while some counties are sitting on having met or exceeded their goals, we're not even close... at $600 of a total of $3600 needed. So spread the word and let's get some people opening their wallets to actually do something to help further our goals. Laws don't change themselves, and lawyers aren't cheap!
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BTW: The old "San Benardino" graphic has been corrected...
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did you want me to contact you if i do apply or before i apply? i will be making donations very soon i do feel this is a important cause.
plus thank you very much for the quick responce and friendly welcome thank rob |
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Ok I want to apply for my permit in san bernardino county. I live in the sheriff jurisdiction so I will be applying at the headquarters.
here are my questions What makes good cause do they care about credit I have a almost 3 year old speeding ticket that was paid not contested I understand they talk to neighbors, what if I dont want the gangbangers 3 doors down to know im carrying a weapon and they want to know contact with law enforcement...Ive been in security I do have a EXPOSED permit for work. I have made arrests but cant remember every time ive had contact with law enforcement. Please give some input I want to know what the odds are before I throw money at this. thank you
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2) To the best of my knowledge they do not check financial history. Either on the state (CA DOJ) or county (Sheriff) level. Some Sheriffs might require it, but it's illegal for them to do so. SBC does not. Either way, a speeding ticket will not disqualify you. 3) SBSD requires three contacts to provide 'character references' in the form of letters and four contacts for them to call and ask questions about you. These are illegal requirements, but they still require them. I'm working directly with CGF on fixing this. 4) When they say 'contact with law enforcement' they want to know if you've been stopped, detained, arrested, questioned, etc. Working with LE doesn't fall under that. Example: I myself used to work for a LEA, but outside of work and prior to employment I never had contact with law enforcement. Get it? 5) Odds are good for San Bernardino in general. They typically take 'For self defense' as good cause. My prediction is that if you apply, you'll get the permit. The only thing is that they have a lot of illegal requirements. If you're willing to deal with that, then apply. If not, then wait until further notice in this thread. If you have any other questions, send me a PM.
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You apply to San Bernardino County Sheriff's Office.
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