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Old 03-03-2012, 9:02 AM
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Just found in another thread, ObeyGiant has a working writable pdf.

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Had my interview today.. Dep. Yezzo was very nice.. One would even say it was pleasant! Immediately went to get my live scan done, so, that's done. Only thing left is the training/qualifying and the admin approval.

I just missed this months CCW class at the Sheriff's office, but, given how slow approval is lately, I'm not sure it'll matter that I need to wait until April for the class. I actually do my qualifying in a few weeks (before the safety class).

Anyways, Riverside's CCW process seems quite reasonable to me... I wish the wait wasn't so long, but, otherwise it's good.
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So I went to the local police station to get an application for a LTC. And after waiting for a few minutes an officer came out and informed me that the city of Murrieta is NOT issuing LTC applications and is NOT deferring to the county. She told me that unless I live in an unincorporated part of the city I basically cant get one and that the police chief wanted as little LTC permits in his city as possible. WTH!!
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So I went to the local police station to get an application for a LTC. And after waiting for a few minutes an officer came out and informed me that the city of Murrieta is NOT issuing LTC applications and is NOT deferring to the county. She told me that unless I live in an unincorporated part of the city I basically cant get one and that the police chief wanted as little LTC permits in his city as possible. WTH!!
Just call up the Sheriff's department and apply directly to them.
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An armed peasant will become a free man. Wouldn't want that now would we?
Free? Isn't that illegal?
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Just call up the Sheriff's department and apply directly to them.
I would if I could, but the city of Murrieta has its own PD and doesn't contract with the county. Therefore I have to get either their application, or they need to differ to the county. The latter of which is what I suspected would happen. Man was I surprised.
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I would if I could, but the city of Murrieta has its own PD and doesn't contract with the county. Therefore I have to get either their application, or they need to differ to the county. The latter of which is what I suspected would happen. Man was I surprised.
That's gotta be illegal... You should contact CGF...
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I would if I could, but the city of Murrieta has its own PD and doesn't contract with the county. Therefore I have to get either their application, or they need to differ to the county. The latter of which is what I suspected would happen. Man was I surprised.
Have you tried to call the Sheriff's department? Their website seems to indicate that they can overrule PD's if needed, even if not contracted.

It's worth a call, no?
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Have you tried to call the Sheriff's department? Their website seems to indicate that they can overrule PD's if needed, even if not contracted.

It's worth a call, no?
I might just do both.
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I will get cleaned up and go ask them again today though. Maybe they will give me the application
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I will get cleaned up and go ask them again today though. Maybe they will give me the application
You can get the application online at the Riverside County Sheriff's website. Get everything together and call them for an interview appointment. The phone number is on the application.

I believe you can apply with them regardless of the City's stance. You don't need any help from the City of Murrieta, and they can have no impact on your application. They won't even know you are applying.

To hear the Murrieta CoP's stance makes me VERY happy that I carry in his fine city EVERY DAY!
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You can get the application online at the Riverside County Sheriff's website. Get everything together and call them for an interview appointment. The phone number is on the application.

I believe you can apply with them regardless of the City's stance. You don't need any help from the City of Murrieta, and they can have no impact on your application. They won't even know you are applying.

To hear the Murrieta CoP's stance makes me VERY happy that I carry in his fine city EVERY DAY!
My understanding was that you needed to go to the local PD first. Unless they are contracted out by the SO
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My understanding was that you needed to go to the local PD first. Unless they are contracted out by the SO
I have been told that is not true with Riverside County.
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I have been told that is not true with Riverside County.
calling the SO to ask now
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Ok, talked to MPD again today and she said and I quote "Currently there are no CCW in murrieta" and for good cause "unless there is a threat of serious bodily injury then he won't issue (he being the Chief)" also "transporting weapons, large sums of money or business related causes won't work. As well as personal safety" so basically the city is saying that they "will" issue but you have to have been threatened personally with serious bodily harm. As for going around them I called the SO and the deputy was very nice and instructed me to talk to MPD and call back. Basically I believe I'm screwed unless I can get someone to seriously threaten bodily harm to me. Or I move. :-(
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I believe I'm screwed unless I can get someone to seriously threaten bodily harm to me. Or I move. :-(
You haven't called the Sheriff's CCW unit back yet and you're already giving up?
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Not giving up yet. Called RSO and the deputy told me to just print of the SO application an bring that to them. :-) a glimmer of hope has appeared.
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I would if I could, but the city of Murrieta has its own PD and doesn't contract with the county. Therefore I have to get either their application, or they need to differ to the county. The latter of which is what I suspected would happen. Man was I surprised.
MPD has a long standing reputation as a bunch of LAPD wannabe jack booted thugs. This surprises me not at all. That would be one of those cities where if you had an incident the responding officers would not likely be on your side. Just forget they exist and apply through the county if you think you have the good cause in order.
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So on that note. Has riverside released its good cause statements?
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I'm hoping one of the many in this forum will have some good advice for me. I recently move to Romoland 6 months ago. I was previously in Orange County so I didnt even bother trying to get my CCW there. As I understand it Romoland is concidered "county" which means I would apply directly with the RCSD correct?

So my main question has to do with my GCS. I work for a public utility and have direct contact with our customers/residents in all of Riverside County. My job puts me physiclly in these peoples home for service calls and emergency situations. One aditional aspect of my job role is collections on past due accounts. Because many of the accounts I am required to close for non-payment are characters of the unsavory nature & 99.9% confrontational my chances of having a meeting with them again when I am not working is very probable. Would there be some way of wording that into a valid reason? Like most I go to the gun ranges, compete with my firearms & also trade/transport high value coins & collectables.

I'm just looking for some advice at getting it right the first time rather than wasting time and money to get it right.

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When I talked to RSO they said if you are going use work situations for a GCS you will need an approval letter from your employer to carry during business hours. I use to collect large sums in Desert Hot Springs, Indio, Hemet, Anza, Joshua Tree, and my boss still said no.
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I'm not looking to carry during work, thwy give us other non-lethal deterants. My cncern is when I am off hours at the movies or out eating and one of these meth heads starts making problems because of what I did while on the job.
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I'm not looking to carry during work, thwy give us other non-lethal deterants. My cncern is when I am off hours at the movies or out eating and one of these meth heads starts making problems because of what I did while on the job.
It sounds like you can articulate it just fine. I say go for it. I haven't simply because my good cause statement would basically be "I live in Hemet, and well, it's Hemet so of course I need to be armed", and the RSO sight explicitly states that that type of GCS isn't acceptable.
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Still no info for riverside county?
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I'm wondering if we can start a bit of a timeline so others can see how long the process takes. Anyone care to share?

Initial interview: March 5, 2012
Livescan: March 5, 2012 -- automated system said the results were mailed/sent from the DOJ/FBI the same day(!) [But, curiously, the Sheriff's dept. says they haven't yet received the results on March 14, 2012]
Training: March 24/25 at Firearms Training Assoc.

Still waiting on approval from the admin.

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Applied - Nov 2010
Livescan - Nov 2010
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Cindy, when was the interview? Care to share your GC statements? Thanks
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Cindy, when was the interview? Care to share your GC statements? Thanks
Its all in this thread. See posts 19, 30, 52, and 64.
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Its all in this thread. See posts 19, 30, 52, and 64.
You said you were appealing the denial.. What happened with that?
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I spoke to Dep Yezzo yesterday, and he tells me that the admin has had some "change-ups" in the last little bit.. Reorganization I'm assuming..(?)

I completed my training/qualifications on March 25, and emailed him the certificate that night. He told me that my file was complete and that it might only be a month before the CCW is issued.. That seems faster than what he told me at the start of the process.. So, perhaps Riverside is getting faster at doing CCW approvals? Or..?
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Still waiting on the GC statements. Was told it would be available real soon and that was over 6 months ago...
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We're all anxiously waiting to see them. I think it is a matter of CGF having bigger fish in the pan right now. Bad for those in RivCo right now, but hopefully better for all of us in the future.
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I called the CCW Unit last week and talked to Deputy Aguirre. They really want to help people get their permits. I will be setting up an interview soon...hopefully. Just waiting on some paperwork to come in and I'll be good to go. I'm also waiting on a new weapon...something a little more concealable. Will keep the forum posted. I also wanted to thank everyone here. Without the kind words of wisdom and advice, I probably wouldn't have even pursued obtaining a CCW.

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im in Corona but in the "unincorporated" area...and RSO services my are and not corono pd

1. will i have to apply thru rso or corona pd?
2. will the fact that i live in an unincorporated are help me in any way shape or form?
3. oh yea still waiting on the GCS
4. my home is located near the Cleveland National Forest and their are tons of coyotes and once even saw a mountail lion looking animal roaming the neighborhoods...is there a way that i can use that as part of my gsc?

anyway...thanks

ps. funny how its so tough for law abiding citizens to obtain a LTC when the everyday bad guy carries 24/7 anywhere he wants ... fml
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im in Corona but in the "unincorporated" area...and RSO services my are and not corono pd

1. will i have to apply thru rso or corona pd?
2. will the fact that i live in an unincorporated are help me in any way shape or form?
3. oh yea still waiting on the GCS
4. my home is located near the Cleveland National Forest and their are tons of coyotes and once even saw a mountail lion looking animal roaming the neighborhoods...is there a way that i can use that as part of my gsc?

anyway...thanks

ps. funny how its so tough for law abiding citizens to obtain a LTC when the everyday bad guy carries 24/7 anywhere he wants ... fml
1. Apply directly to the Sheriff
2. See #1
3. Waiting on Good Cause? Just write it! It's not hard.. Just don't say, "Personal Protection".
4. See #3.

Call the CCW dept and speak to them. They'll help you.. They want to issue CCW's.. So, just give them some meat on a bone and they'll use that.
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im in Corona but in the "unincorporated" area...and RSO services my are and not corono pd

1. will i have to apply thru rso or corona pd?
2. will the fact that i live in an unincorporated are help me in any way shape or form?
3. oh yea still waiting on the GCS
4. my home is located near the Cleveland National Forest and their are tons of coyotes and once even saw a mountail lion looking animal roaming the neighborhoods...is there a way that i can use that as part of my gsc?
anyway...thanks

ps. funny how its so tough for law abiding citizens to obtain a LTC when the everyday bad guy carries 24/7 anywhere he wants ... fml
DO NOT use wild animal threats as part of your GC. This seems to be a path to likely denial.
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DO NOT use wild animal threats as part of your GC. This seems to be a path to likely denial.
another member actually told me the same thing

so...if not for personal protection, not for wildlife...then what?
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