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Old 09-30-2011, 4:25 PM
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I notice, on the Issuance Policy document for SM Sheriff, that us city dwellers must first apply to the Police Chief, then if the Chief concludes that there is Good Cause, the application will be forwarded to the sheriff.

I never knew that!

Then again,

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I notice, on the Issuance Policy document for SM Sheriff, that us city dwellers must first apply to the Police Chief, then if the Chief concludes that there is Good Cause, the application will be forwarded to the sheriff.

I never knew that!

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No. this is not the current policy
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Wish I had "elevated" cause I guess in a way.
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The term "elevated cause" is just too nebulous for me to work with. I know, I SHOULD be able to work with it, but it's like trying to peel apart an onion, with a dull knife, without crying. Heh. But, I'll try anyway. All they can say is "no".
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I'll soon be getting up the nerve to apply for this as well. It's good news seeing some people getting their applications approved!
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It's not even "nerve" for me, it's just preparing deep wells of patience and understanding in preparation to deal with their bureaucratic process (aka "bring a shovel, the ****'s deep, son.)

I realize that chances of denial are high. I also realize that over time, LTC issuance realities (if only in practice and not in the letter of the law) will change around here. It happened elsewhere, it is being pushed in other places and you cannot forever see a civil right reduced to arbitrary feelings about disbursement and practice. I'd wait longer, but Munks seems not unreasonable.
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Range qualified + class today. Much shorter than I anticipated. Just waiting on the permit to be mailed to me now
Class is enjoyable even. Once you get to the range you're among gunnies.

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Is there any update on what constitutes acceptable good cause?
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Update - Got a phone call today. App approved! Range class on the 23rd, then upon receipt of my papers from the course + range time my permit will be mailed to me. So, probably end of this month I'll have my permit.
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It's happening now. I refused to give San Mateo what they wanted. at the time they didn't even want to give me an application. I look forward to seeing them have to buckle to the law and not their own ways. Giving them what they want when it's not required is only reenforcing their ideas to make it hard on all of us to get a LTC.

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Hey taperxz - Did you ever get an approval or denial from SM?

I noticed norcalathlete submitted his app on 9-7-11 and was approved on 10-6-11..

From your post it seems you submitted on or before 9-10-11. Am wondering what happened and if denied their reasoning had to do with your not providing the "extras" they wanted..

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Is this enough "cause" in San Mateo to get a license to carry?

* live in San Mateo
* work in San Francisco in the Tenderloin

In the Tenderloin, a month ago, 2 people got shot on our block. I regularly see people smoking crack, prostitution, crazy nut jobs, gang bangers selling drugs. About 6 months ago, I had a gangbanger take a swing (missed!) at me and talking smack about "kicking my white ***"; I was able to simply cross the street and walk away.

I'm a cool-headed guy. So, I'm not looking for trouble. Just would like to be able to carry if I'm going to be working late and going to/from the parking lot.

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Is this enough "cause" in San Mateo to get a license to carry?
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Is this enough "cause" in San Mateo to get a license to carry?

* live in San Mateo
* work in San Francisco in the Tenderloin

In the Tenderloin, a month ago, 2 people got shot on our block. I regularly see people smoking crack, prostitution, crazy nut jobs, gang bangers selling drugs. About 6 months ago, I had a gangbanger take a swing (missed!) at me and talking smack about "kicking my white ***"; I was able to simply cross the street and walk away.

I'm a cool-headed guy. So, I'm not looking for trouble. Just would like to be able to carry if I'm going to be working late and going to/from the parking lot.

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When I first got my handgun (about 7 years ago now?), I remember taking a look at the calguns ccw map and having just a complete feeling of hopelessness. Someone mentioned I should come take another look and stopped by to expect pretty much more of the same. I am SHOCKED by how much progress you guys are making!

I'm going to start passing that Amazon link around and making sure it gets used. Those personally going through the CCW process right now, please keep us updated! I'm going to be following the thread and I'm ready to apply once it is tactically smart to do so.

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I'm going to be following the thread and I'm ready to apply once it is tactically smart to do so.
Whats wrong with now?

Its been mentioned earlier in the thread that applying now is fine...
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Any news on the cause statements for San Mateo?

The CGF website still says:
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Whats wrong with now?

Its been mentioned earlier in the thread that applying now is fine...
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My current cause doesn't contain "heightened risk" as far as I can tell. I also walk through shady parts of SF at night but it doesn't sound like that's justification.
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I've been thinking about applying for an LTC in San Mateo county. Does CGF need any volunteer applicants at this time?

I'm not sure if I qualify as "heightened risk". I am a business owner who frequently transports large amounts of cash and technology equipment in my vehicle.
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I've been thinking about applying for an LTC in San Mateo county. Does CGF need any volunteer applicants at this time?

I'm not sure if I qualify as "heightened risk". I am a business owner who frequently transports large amounts of cash and technology equipment in my vehicle.
That sort of cause is generally working. We need no volunteers particularly but would encourage you to apply with that sort of good cause.

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Forgive me if this is a bit OT and a bit of a rant, feel free to delete, but with budgets shrinking on the Penninsula and local PD getting absorbed by The Sheriffs Dept. how long can this county resist issuing LTC? I have lived in San Carlos for one year now. In that year I have seen a clean town with no graffiti slowly show signs that criminals now know these areas are vulnerable. There have been two B&E Burglaries in my neighborhood this last week, I am told it has been 30 years since there has been a Break-in in our neighborhood. If the state is going bankrupt and municipalities can not provide public safety, seems like the least they could do is get out of the way of LTC....

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Forgive me if this is a bit OT and a bit of a rant, feel free to delete, but with budgets shrinking on the Penninsula and local PD getting absorbed by The Sheriffs Dept. how long can this county resist issuing LTC? I have lived in San Carlos for one year now. In that year I have seen a clean town with no graffiti slowly show signs that criminals now know these areas are vulnerable. There have been two B&E Burglaries in my neighborhood this last week, I am told it has been 30 years since there has been a Break-in in our neighborhood. If the state is going bankrupt and municipalities can not provide public safety, seems like the least they could do is get out of the way of LTC....

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Local PD in San Carlos told me they wouldn't show up when a truck driver crashed into my building and was attempting to leave the scene.

I finally got him to cooperate and give me DL and insurance info, no help from the police, but that was only because I called the company he worked for and refused to let him drive away.

Personally, Im glad the sheriff took over. I don't know if they are any better, but they can't possibly be any worse.
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Forgive me if this is a bit OT and a bit of a rant, feel free to delete, but with budgets shrinking on the Penninsula and local PD getting absorbed by The Sheriffs Dept. how long can this county resist issuing LTC? I have lived in San Carlos for one year now. In that year I have seen a clean town with no graffiti slowly show signs that criminals now know these areas are vulnerable. There have been two B&E Burglaries in my neighborhood this last week, I am told it has been 30 years since there has been a Break-in in our neighborhood. If the state is going bankrupt and municipalities can not provide public safety, seems like the least they could do is get out of the way of LTC....

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Why are you not applying for your LTC? San Mateo county has been issuing for elevated good cause statements.
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Never thought I'd have any heightened cause for an LTC but I had to go to court as an "expert witness" in a grow house prosecution recently. I didn't have to testify yet but I will soon. The DA told me as I was dismissed, "these people are out on bond/bail and do not have criminal records". My immediate thought was crap, they know who I am and I don't feel safe. Is this a heightened cause?
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Never thought I'd have any heightened cause for an LTC but I had to go to court as an "expert witness" in a grow house prosecution recently. I didn't have to testify yet but I will soon. The DA told me as I was dismissed, "these people are out on bond/bail and do not have criminal records". My immediate thought was crap, they know who I am and I don't feel safe. Is this a heightened cause?
It's on the edge depending on the facts of those people and whether you testify, but it's not going to hurt to try that cause.

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Called in yesterday and came in to do my livescan today. Now it's just waiting to see if it's approved. Tom Merson was the person to talk to and he was very nice and informative.
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Dropped my application with the Belmont PD last Friday, haven't heard from them since. Is it too early to stop by and ask for a status?
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Dropped my application with the Belmont PD last Friday, haven't heard from them since. Is it too early to stop by and ask for a status?
Why did you give it to Belmont PD?
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Why did you give it to Belmont PD?
I didn't know at the time that I can hand it directly to the SM Sheriff. I just stopped at the Belmont PD to ask about this and they have handed me the application. When I dropped it off, they didn't really interview me, just collected it and said thanks.

Now I wonder what to do next. Shell I go back to Belmont PD and ask for status or go to the sheriff office with a new application.
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I didn't know at the time that I can hand it directly to the SM Sheriff. I just stopped at the Belmont PD to ask about this and they have handed me the application. When I dropped it off, they didn't really interview me, just collected it and said thanks.

Now I wonder what to do next. Shell I go back to Belmont PD and ask for status or go to the sheriff office with a new application.
That's an interesting question, to which I don't know the answer. I suppose you could ask to voluntarily withdraw the application and resubmit it to SMCSO. That shouldn't count as a "denial", so I don't think that would matter.

Unless someone else already knows, I should see if I can arrange a time to talk to the chief. I've no idea what his stand is on CHL's, other than the blurb on the BPD web site. I was surprised when I went down there to get my prints rolled for AZ and found that they had the apps on hand and ready to hand out.

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Dropped my application with the Belmont PD last Friday, haven't heard from them since. Is it too early to stop by and ask for a status?
Even when you apply directly to the SMSD, the process is likely to take 3-4 months, patience is a virtue
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Even when you apply directly to the SMSD, the process is likely to take 3-4 months, patience is a virtue
I'm assuming from what I've read in this subforum and in others, that a good part of the wait involves a Livescan return.

Can anyone tell me why it takes so long to get the livescan results? When my friends took the bar exam a few years ago (2006), the State Bar had results in days, not months.

I'll temper that with I have no idea how fingerprint-based checks proceed or what exactly they involve. But the State Bar is doing the same sorts of checks that the Sheriff is doing, FBI, State, inserting microscope up your backside, etc.

In fact, come to think of it, some of the questions on the CHL app are reminiscent of bar application (the moral character part) questions and inquiries. Too bad a determination on one can't substitute for the other.
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I'm assuming from what I've read in this subforum and in others, that a good part of the wait involves a Livescan return.
Can anyone tell me why it takes so long to get the livescan results? When my friends took the bar exam a few years ago (2006), the State Bar had results in days, not months.
I'll temper that with I have no idea how fingerprint-based checks proceed or what exactly they involve. But the State Bar is doing the same sorts of checks that the Sheriff is doing, FBI, State, inserting microscope up your backside, etc.
In fact, come to think of it, some of the questions on the CHL app are reminiscent of bar application (the moral character part) questions and inquiries. Too bad a determination on one can't substitute for the other.
~1 mo to get called to interview
~1 mo to get results from live scan (and approval/denial from Sheriff)
~1 mo to get into the class/qualification
~1 mo to get your permit.

give or take a couple of weeks for each step.
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~1 mo to get called to interview
~1 mo to get results from live scan (and approval/denial from Sheriff)
~1 mo to get into the class/qualification
~1 mo to get your permit.

give or take a couple of weeks for each step.
Oh. Well, the interview happens (now, at least, and assuming you call ahead) when you drop off the app. So that 30 day wait goes out the window. Fill in the boxes and bubbles, make a call, show up, burn an hour talking to the nice man and getting livescanned.

Still seems odd that in this digital age, a livescan takes 4 weeks to complete, though I don't disbelieve you.
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Hey y'all. Been following this thread for a lil while, especially glad to see some fellow San Carlos residents here.

I received an email today which motivated me to finally join CalGuns and get in on it. The Greater East San Carlos board is concerned about the recent rise of crime in our area, namely, the small neighborhood on the wrong side of the tracks. They have sent this out:

Dear Greater East San Carlos residents,



There have been several burglaries in the neighborhood over the past year, and as a result the GESC Board has requested a community meeting with the San Carlos Police Department to discuss what the neighborhood can do in cooperation with the Police Department. Captain Greg Rothaus will meet with us March 1, 2012 7:00-to 8:30 p.m. at the Laureola Community Center. The Agenda for the evening is as follows:



1) History and trends of crime in San Carlos.



2) History and trends of crime in Greater East San Carlos neighborhood.



3) San Mateo County Alert System.



4) The Neighborhood Watch Program.



5) Other issues of concern to the GESC neighborhood that the Police should be aware of.



We encourage you to come and participate. Please speak with you neighbors and encourage them to attend as well. The key to a safe neighborhood is residents watching out for other residents in cooperation with the Police. Please come and learn how to be more involved in improving your neighborhoods safety.



See you there.



Sam Herzberg, GESC Board Member








Would this be a venue that could be utilized to further my quest for a CCL? Specifically, ask the Police Chief directly if living in my neighborhood would provide me with good cause for a CCL?

I am planning on attending and would be willing to meet up with any fellow CalGunners in case they were thinking about it too.


A CCW is like a seatbelt, would rather have one than not; if this provides a small window for me to obtain one, I'd like to take it. I do not want to cause a ruckus though, should this be a poor venue to advance my cause so I am here seeking advice.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:01 PM
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Just FYI, it took me one day to get an "interview" which consisted of me calling and asking when I could come in. I did my livescan on 2/15 and got an email today that my results were back and my application is being forwarded up the chain. We'll see how long it takes to get a decision, but things seem to be moving pretty fast.
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