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Old 09-12-2010, 12:39 PM
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I thought this was really neat. And yes, this is intentionally muted by the people who put it up on YT. AFAIK, it is their company secret insofar. Other than that, I think Calguns will enjoy it.
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Old 09-12-2010, 12:41 PM
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That thing looks ugly as sin! That said, I want one!
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Old 09-12-2010, 6:43 PM
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Ugly as sin?! You're crazy! That's beautiful! ...and I want one too!
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Old 09-12-2010, 7:51 PM
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I don't own one, but to me, that looks like a Saiga-12 magazine. Pretty cool if that rifle will take them.
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So is it really an AR-10 or just a 12 guage proprietary AR?

Either way its hot as hell
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i thought i saw something similar at the big reno show but it looked much cruder

i doubt it will be made without immediatly being called a DD

that is what makes saigas so incredible

they are DD immune
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Old 09-12-2010, 8:37 PM
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I want to see it shoot.
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Old 09-12-2010, 8:38 PM
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All i want to say, is that "I want one!!!"
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Old 09-12-2010, 10:12 PM
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This is done by a little start up company up in Utah. It's run by good people.

http://www.crusaderweaponry.com/index.php

The other thing these guys sell is an AR-10 that accepts G3 mags.

The reason I decided to share the OP is because I never thought I'd see an AR-pattern shotgun. It's mindblowing, IMHO.
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One design flaw I see in it, is that it needs a muzzle break or some sort of porting done to the barrel. Maybe add a win choke system to it.
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One design flaw I see in it, is that it needs a muzzle break or some sort of porting done to the barrel.
Why?
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Old 09-13-2010, 6:24 AM
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most likely to help reduce 12 guage recoil during rapid fire.
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Old 09-13-2010, 6:28 AM
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Any pics? I went to that website and didn't see anything.

ATI is also importing an AR-15 "style" 12ga shotgun from Turkey.
From what I recall though, it wasn't compatible with standard upper/lowers.
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Old 09-13-2010, 7:17 AM
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Any pics? I went to that website and didn't see anything.

ATI is also importing an AR-15 "style" 12ga shotgun from Turkey.
From what I recall though, it wasn't compatible with standard upper/lowers.
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To my knowledge, that "Warhammer" is still in the works/prototype stage; I haven't seen any other pictures myself. You could see that the gun didn't even have its finish in the video.

I'm sure that in due time, Crusader will have some pictures up. It was like this when they released their first weapon into the market as well.
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Any pics? I went to that website and didn't see anything.

ATI is also importing an AR-15 "style" 12ga shotgun from Turkey.
From what I recall though, it wasn't compatible with standard upper/lowers.
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ATI imports a 410 upper not 12ga for the AR15/clone lower. Safir Arms makes it out of Turkey.

http://www.safirarms.com/eng.html
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The ATI/Safir .410 had intrigued me.

12 Ga. is downright sexy.

BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! etc.

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Low Velocity:1792fps
High Velocity:1917fps
Average velocity: 1855fps
Extreme Spreed:124.0
Std. Deviation:44.84
Manufacture Spec: 1830fps
Measure Mass: 92.8gr
Manufacture Spec 1/5oz (87.5gr)
Calculated Muzzle Energy: 708.9ft-lbs

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Old 09-14-2010, 1:46 PM
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Are those lawyers in the picture that got shot out?
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Are those lawyers in the picture that got shot out?
Hmmm... looks like it. I smell a lawsuit!
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