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Old 09-06-2010, 5:53 PM
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Any dealers in socal have enhanced ACR's that I can come check out this week?
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Old 09-06-2010, 6:00 PM
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Riflegear did last week, might want to call them on Tuesday.
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Just a word of advice, be carefull do your homework and search around.

Don't buy the first one you see. Unless of course you got money to throw away. There's a significant price difference within the ACR enhanced model. I've seen them anywhere from 2250 to 3000!

Good luck and don't get raped.

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Yeah I've been watching them for over a year and checked them out at the Shot Show but that was 8 months ago. My wife asked me what I wanted for my birthday and I'm thinking one of these. And I have no problem buying out of state to keep from getting raped. There are plenty of dealers out of state selling the enhanced already set up for Cali for a little less than $2500. And I already have an out of state FFL that will gladly handle the transfer.

But I would rather help out a dealer here in Cali if their pricing isn't rediculous

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If you can just buy the basic ACR and get the folding stock from Bushmaster which is $149.00. You will have to pin the folding feature though. If you really want the rail hand guard though then you will have to buy the full enhanced version because Bushmaster doesn't sell that part yet on their site.
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Old 09-06-2010, 8:44 PM
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Yeah I was hoping to find some pics on here or that someone would post up some pics of the ones that they have. Does anyone have any recommendations for sellers? I am looking for the coyote brown version
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Here's a picture of my hybrid setup (Enhanced rail hand guard with basic fixed stock)





Same shots but with different lighting





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Wow pretty nice...How do you like it??
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Wow pretty nice...How do you like it??
So far so good. I've only shot about 230 rounds through it (bench shooting and zeroing my optic) with no malfunctions but I will use it during a Falcon Security Group Tactical Rifle/Carbine training at the end of this month. I think that will be the real test.

The only downside is that the ACR is front heavy. Guess that means I just need to workout more then. Some people feel that the rail hand guard is bulky, which it is, but if you have larger hands it may not be a problem.

Again try to find a basic model ACR for less than $2000 if you can then just buy the folding stock from Bushmaster. Do you want the Enhanced Rail hand guard though?
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Old 09-06-2010, 9:57 PM
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I would prefer to have the enhanced rail, handguard, and stock. Although I know that the stock cannot be folded but it is collapsible. But this is why I want to hold one again and check it out.
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Man I just dont like the color mismatch. The same thing can be seen with the SCAR from FNH.

Is it something that is limited to non black ACRs or are they affected by the mismatch as well. And are they doing anything about fixing it or is it more of a camera effect.
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BMWguy206 how heavy are you talking compared to your AR?
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BMWguy206 how heavy are you talking compared to your AR?
My AR feels like it's a 50/50 weight distribution ratio between the front and rear.

With the ACR it feels like 75/25 weight distribution.

If you're just going to do bench shooting the weight should be the least of your concerns. If you're going to take tactical rifle/carbine schools then you better be prepared.
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Yeah I wasn't planning on doing any bench shooting with it at all. Hmm makes me wonder. I do have a couple of AR's but I was looking at these..well for the same reason everyone else is. And I know a lot of people will say to go Scar but it just wasn't for me.
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Yeah I wasn't planning on doing any bench shooting with it at all. Hmm makes me wonder. I do have a couple of AR's but I was looking at these..well for the same reason everyone else is. And I know a lot of people will say to go Scar but it just wasn't for me.
I bought the ACR because I already had an AR15 and a 2nd lower receiver for future mid-length build. I wanted my 3rd rifle to be different and came down to the ACR.

Next on my list is a 1911, bolt action rifle, or an AR10.
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Man I just dont like the color mismatch. The same thing can be seen with the SCAR from FNH.

Is it something that is limited to non black ACRs or are they affected by the mismatch as well. And are they doing anything about fixing it or is it more of a camera effect.
Unfortunately that's how it is for the coyote brown. In a way a I kind of regret getting that color because the upper painted part can get scratched and I haven't found a marker/pen to go over it.
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i was a huge cheerleader for the ACR prior it coming out. after i got to handle one finally, i gotta say i was hugely disappointed with the weight distribution of it. the heavy front end is taxing on your support arm and the overall weight negates the heavy use of polymer in its construction.

bmw, let us know how you like it after your tactical class. i'm still holding out some bit of hope that BM will issue a lightweight profile barrel sometime in the future. not holding my breath though.
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It cant be heavier than a AR10 right? I wonder how it compares to a piston AR...as far as weight. Does anyone have any more pics of their ACR's?? Has anyone ran one through a class that would like to report on how it did? Any failures malfunction?
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It cant be heavier than a AR10 right? I wonder how it compares to a piston AR...as far as weight. Does anyone have any more pics of their ACR's?? Has anyone ran one through a class that would like to report on how it did? Any failures malfunction?
There's a guy on youtube that is experiencing many FTEs and stovepipes. Someone said the bolt carrier is cycling too fast and recommended to use the suppressed setting. He's the only person that I know that's experiencing some issues.
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i was a huge cheerleader for the ACR prior it coming out. after i got to handle one finally, i gotta say i was hugely disappointed with the weight distribution of it. the heavy front end is taxing on your support arm and the overall weight negates the heavy use of polymer in its construction.

bmw, let us know how you like it after your tactical class. i'm still holding out some bit of hope that BM will issue a lightweight profile barrel sometime in the future. not holding my breath though.
I hear ya! When I first held it I thought to myself that it wasn't that bad and not heavy at all. Well I went back to hold my DDM4 it almost felt like it lost a lot of weight but it only felt that way because I was use to holding the ACR.
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Is there an ambi bolt catch? I thought there was a ambi charging handle it looks like its only on one side and the ACR barrel only comes in 1/9 right. Sorry guys I haven't handled one. What's the range report?
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Is there an ambi bolt catch? I thought there was a ambi charging handle it looks like its only on one side and the ACR barrel only comes in 1/9 right. Sorry guys I haven't handled one. What's the range report?
Yes it has an ambi bolt catch/release. The charging handle is ambi but you have to remove the handle and swap it to the other side.
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If you had to do it over again would you buy one again
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Yes but I would've bought it at a later date when it's cheaper (I won it on an auction and was hoping to get outbid) and I would've bought the basic version with an enhanced folding stock.
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Good point especially since they release the enhanced forearms and stocks real cheap, they even have an ACR soft case on their website now.
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I know you're in SoCal but you can consider this NorCal Dealer as well. ACR Basic is $2,500 with the enhanced running at $2,700.
http://tracyrifleandpistol.com/gun_store/

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to be honest the acr is ok like Jerry said its over marketed you can build a simular AR and have a much more balance rifle plus that 2 tone is hugh turn off for me
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Yeah I am still looking and trying to decide but it is definately on a small list of wants as far as tactical rifles go. We'll see, you all got me thinkin twice about it though because if it really is that heavy than I would rather wait a little bit and see if they lighten it up a bit.
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This thread has convinced me I was right to sh*tcan all my ARS this week. I'm cycling back around to bolt action rifles. The SCAR and ACR are no better than the fine ARs that Randall or Chris at Addax can make, for less price with more performance and accuracy... My Steyr SSG 08 is on the way...
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I bought a black one when they first came out. I really like it. I made it featureless with a solar tactical grip and a yankee hill compensator.

Not front heavy! Very well balanced.

No failures

I just got a tan one off GB from Utah for $1900

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The tan color is not like any photo I've seen. It looks better in person!
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I bought a black one when they first came out. I really like it. I made it featureless with a solar tactical grip and a yankee hill compensator.

Not front heavy! Very well balanced.

No failures

I just got a tan one off GB from Utah for $1900
You must have strong arms then or you really know how to handle the ACR! As for me I got use to the weight.

I'm making mine featureless also with a Surefire MB556K brake but waiting for it to arrive. The solar tactical grip is sitting on my desk.
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The tan color is not like any photo I've seen. It looks better in person!
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It's personal preference but yeah it doesn't bother me.
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It does look better in person but I was totally turned off to the weight distribution the first time I picked it up. I've handled them a few times but cannot get used to it. If I had to pick between the two "cool" new FDE rifles I would lean towards the SCAR due to it's weight. I do really like the look of the rifles posted here and if you can handle the weight, more power to you. I'm kind of a wuss when it comes to that stuff... -Ben
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Not front heavy! Very well balanced.
you got popeye forearms or something?! LOL
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I must be super strong or something? It feels perfect to me. I had a Sig ER whcih felt nose heavy. The ACR never felt heavy to me, my nephew had the same opinion. I'm only 6 ft, my arms are normal? I never shoot sitting, only standing. A earlier post had a weight ratio of 75/25, no way that guy must be smoking something.

I'm holding my ACR now, it feels perfect. I must the genes, half german/ half nebraskan. Perfectly balanced just like my two ACR's!

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I must be super strong or something? It feels perfect to me. I had a Sig ER whcih felt nose heavy. The ACR never felt heavy to me, my nephew had the same opinion. I'm only 6 ft, my arms are normal? I never shoot sitting, only standing. A earlier post had a weight ratio of 75/25, no way that guy must be smoking something.

I'm holding my ACR now, it feels perfect. I must the genes, half german/ half nebraskan. Perfectly balanced just like my two ACR's!
I was the one that said 75/25 but I did not physically weight both the upper and lower but it's so obvious that the lower is so light because of it's polymer construction. The upper part is noticeably heavier because of the piston design and the quick release mechanism of the barrel.

Perhaps I should've said 60/40 and last thing is that I don't smoke.
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You said it felt like 75/25 weight distribution. It's OK if you smoke, we don't need to know. Also just take your ACR and use it to do some curls with your left arm, your other arm should be fine. Then you'll be able to hold the ACR like a man.


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My AR feels like it's a 50/50 weight distribution ratio between the front and rear.

With the ACR it feels like 75/25 weight distribution.

If you're just going to do bench shooting the weight should be the least of your concerns. If you're going to take tactical rifle/carbine schools then you better be prepared.
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I must be super strong or something? It feels perfect to me. I had a Sig ER whcih felt nose heavy. The ACR never felt heavy to me, my nephew had the same opinion. I'm only 6 ft, my arms are normal? I never shoot sitting, only standing. A earlier post had a weight ratio of 75/25, no way that guy must be smoking something.

I'm holding my ACR now, it feels perfect. I must the genes, half german/ half nebraskan. Perfectly balanced just like my two ACR's!
that explains it, the sig er is a beast too. have you held a lightweight AR? big balance/weight difference between both the sig and acr.
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