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Old 09-05-2010, 3:32 PM
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Default Tell me about 25 acp

I don't want to hear the stuff about "don't bother,its weak sauce" and that crap. Obviously it's not a big bullet and doesn't have a ton of punch. I inherited one however and I may as well learn about the round a bit and what it IS good at. If your curious, I inherited a 25 auto Titan. What kind of distance should I practice at, how effective is it for defense, and what type of bullet would be best to use for defense? Thanks
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Old 09-05-2010, 3:37 PM
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'gonna move this to 'handgun' - you'll probably get better response there.
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Old 09-05-2010, 3:39 PM
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thanks, I wasn't sure which it should be in.
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The bullet selection is not extensive 35 Grain JHP and 50 Grain FMJ. The pistols are cute I have a Beretta .25 ACP Jetfire. I'm unable to answer your question within the parameters that you requested. However consider that a 36 grain .22LR travels at twice the speed of the 35 grain JHP so you can draw your own conclusions.
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It's better than nothing. I think .22LR has hotter loading options but .25 is centerfire and that's always a good thing for reliability.
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I have a Titan myself. my inlaw said they couldn't hit anything past 10 feet. from my experience it's as accurate as any pistol. I get 6-8" at 20 yards. for a small pistol I say it's good. try are meant for closer range but I like to shoot further then intended just to know my max potential of the weapon.
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Old 09-05-2010, 3:53 PM
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If your keeping it for HD, might wanna keep FMJs or lead in it : /
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For SD, personally I'd stick with round nose for reliability and penetration and really practice on hitting the vitals.
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good to know, its not really for home defense, but nice to know what it can do if needed.
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.25ACP was invented because the rimfire cartridges of the time were not always reliable, due to uneven distribution of the primer compound in the hollow rims.
The most popular .22 RF cartridge back then is what we know now as the .22 Short.
The .25 was a little bigger, centerfire for reliability, and had a heavier bullet.

Pocket pistols velocity of both .22 Short and .25 ACP is around 800FPS.
The .25 ACP FMJ bullet weighs 50 grains, the short is 29 grains.
Cartridges of the World shows the .25ACP from a pocket pistol with a velocity of 810FPS and a 50g bullet for 73 pounds of muzzle energy.

(Side note: the Nazis in WW2 used .25 ACP and .32 ACP as the alternatives for 9x19. They did not like the .380 round).
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That will do the job if you do yours. It just won't be a reliable stopper. I've seen what a .25 ACP will do.
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I have a Colt Jr and a Raven in 25acp. Both are very reliable. And can be pretty accurate if you can get a decent grip. I won a derringer in a 7 yard postal match with the Raven a few years ago
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The .25 cal round is good for an ear, nose, and throat gun. Shouls practice at arms length and a little beyond. I bought my for teh center fire reliability. I should have gotten a .32. The guns come are a nice little packages though.
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All I can tell you is my buddy has a 1958 Beretta in .25ACP. It's a real hoot to shoot!
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10 yards and under and stick with FMJ. the euro loadings tend to be hotter.

many people are killed each year with the under powered 25acp.
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Sell the pistol, buy a baseball bat.
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I love my .25ACP Jetfire. Shoot the gun, learn how it shoots and what you can do with it, and understand while it's not an ideal weapon it has its place.
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sexualchocolate, I want to see you with a baseball bat go against a person armed with a .25.
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True, I wouldn't want to be shot by a .25, but I would feel like more of a man with a baseball bat.
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Its the real mass destruction weapon while nukes are rusting in the silos
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after you shoot them 5 or 6 times be prepared to club them with the gun.
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(Side note: the Nazis in WW2 used .25 ACP and .32 ACP as the alternatives for 9x19. They did not like the .380 round).
No wonder we won! They were shooting pellet guns at us!
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My stepfather has a FEI Titan .25, it's a well made reliable little pistol. The small fixed sights can be difficult to pick up quickly so I'd keep practice to 10-15 yards. A couple of ammo companies have made expanding bullets for the 25acp, but I would stick with FMJ for reliability and penetration.
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Have you heard the advice about .25 ACP from the old time gun lover?

Better be carrying something for self defense if you should be intending to shoot someone with a .25 ACP. If they ever find out about it they're going to be pretty annoyed.

I've heard this attributed to a couple of different old gun writers. Anyone know the true source?
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Late-90s, my former boss's 16 year old son got shot in the face with a .25ACP pistol.

Bad guy (his sister's ex boy friend) had a Jennings J-25 and broke into boss's home. Bad guy was trying to shoot his sister, who was running down the hall, and his son stepped into the hall to find out what all the noise was about.
Bad guy fired six Winchester 50gr FMJ rounds before it jammed. After gun jammed, bad guy ran away and was later arrested.
Boss's son got hit in the face at a distance of about 23 feet (approx 7-8 yards). Bullet hit his left cheek bone and did not penetrate, it then slid along his cheek and ended up near his left ear under the skin.


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A .22LR pistol is better than a .25ACP pistol, due to the .22LR having better penetration.
.25ACP may be better than nothing, but you'll do more damage if you use a 2" knife than with the .25ACP.
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The FIE Titan was the gun that put FIE out of buisness, and was the backbone for are drop test.98 -99 a US Court awarded a man 10.8 mill for being shot and paralyzed by a Titan being droped on it's uncocked hammer and discharging.Google FIE Titan recall under 4 or 5 S&W recalls you will see Tanfoglio Guseppie/FIE Titan and read the storey.
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The 25ACP is a B.P. caliber............"Beats Praying".

They are neat for that extra "shot" one gets when one runs out of ammo and needs to use
the gun as an additional projectile.
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I took care of a guy that accidently shot himself with a 25 derringer last week. it was a 2 shot top break gun and we figure that he was holing it about mid stomach area when it went off. The round went thru his hand, into his abdomen just to the right of his belly button and exited at the bottom of his left butt cheek. This happened literally across the street from our station and he died on the way to the hospital from internal bleeding. The 25 has just as much potential to kill someone as anything else, just depends on what it hits going thru the body.
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[QUOTE=Chief-7700;4907869]The pistols are cute QUOTE]

That somes it up right there
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