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Old 05-12-2006, 12:04 PM
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Default Rainbow Steel Match this SAT, SoCal, near Temecula.

This consecutive monthly match in has been continuing since 1973!!!! (30+ years, non-stop!! Every 2nd SAT, rain or shine)

- 5 pistol stages of 6 rounds each, steel plates
- 2 rifle stages of 6 rounds each (optional)
- 2 shotgun stages of 6 shots each (optional)

Come shoot your pistol and your CA-AR(I'll be there shooting mine!)!!!!

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Rainbow Match This Sat at the Rainbow Range STARTS 9:00AM.
Rainbow Range is located off 15 fwy S. of Temecula, at the Rainbow
exit. Come on down, sharpen your skills, e-mail me and I can send
you a map if you don't know where we are.

Map to Range
http://www.recessesofmymind.com/shoo...irections.html

Websites current
http://www.recessesofmymind.com/shoo...nbowrange.html

SCORES
http://www.recessesofmymind.com/shooting/scores.html

PHOTOS
http://www.recessesofmymind.com/shooting/photos.html

Old website
http://www.primeris.com/pr/rainbow/

This is a *friendly*, entry-level, practical pistol match, consisting of
5 realistic stages. It is revolver-neutral, as there are 6 shots per stage.
All targets are metal plates, and it is scored by time. Optional defensive
shotgun and rifle stages and relay races follow the match.

THE RULES ARE

1. The Rainbow Range is a cold range.

2. If anyone has a loaded firearm on their person please come up and we can
address this problem now. Please come forward and we can unload you.

3. Holsters any hip type hostler NO cross draws or shoulder hostlers
allowed. You can carry your guns in a gun case (unloaded with the action
back) and uncase at the direction of an RO Safety Officer at each stage.

4. Jeff Cooper's four rules:
A. ALL guns are always loaded.
B. Never let the muzzle cover anything which you are not willing to
destroy.
C. Keep your finger OFF the trigger until your sights are on the target.
D. Always be sure of your target.

Jeff Cooper's Commentaries are at:
http://www.crossroadusa.com/jeffcooper/

5. 2nd Saturday Match
Five Pistol Stages
Six shots per stage, making it revolver-neutral
Metal targets, giving an immediate feedback of hits
Cover, running, and real-world problem solving are used.
Some targets are designated as "hostages", aka "no-shoots".
If you hit one, you wear a bell around your neck.
Two optional tactical shotgun stages.
Two optional tactical rifle stages.
After the main match, there are two and four-man relays.
The final event is the Walk-and-draw, a one-on-one quick draw
completion. Eliminations continue until one shooter is named "Top Gun".

SCORING
Each stage is timed, from the moment the contestant starts moving
The time is stopped when the sixth shot is fired
Five seconds is added for each miss (i.e. "Comstock" scoring)
Ten seconds are added for each hostage hit.
Red Pin For scores less than 60 seconds, total of all 5 stages.
Blue Pin For scores less than 50 seconds, total of all 5 stages.
Purple Pin For scores less than 40 seconds, total of all 5 stages.
NEW 12-03 Yellow Pin For scores less than 30 seconds, total of all 5 stages.
Gold Pin For the "top gun" of the "Walk and Draw".
Sliver Pin for the lowest time in the two shotgun stages.
Sliver Pin for the lowest time in the two rifle stages.

COST
Must Be A Member Of The Rainbow Combat Club, which is $5.00 per year.
Two Dollar for Rainbow Range members (must be a member of Combat Club)
Six dollars for non-members (must be a member of Combat Club)
Four dollars for match committee members (show at 8AM to help)
Reshoots are one dollar each. Re-run the match with a different pistol.
One dollar for two Shotgun stages.
One dollar for two Rifle stages.

See YOU THERE

Ron Walter
Mission Valley Roofing, Inc.
9908 Prospect Ave
Santee, CA. 92071-4317
Cell # 619-843-3004
Phone: 619-449-9744
Fax: 619-562-8727
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Old 05-16-2006, 4:34 PM
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- 5 pistol stages of 6 rounds each, steel plates
- 2 rifle stages of 6 rounds each (optional)
- 2 shotgun stages of 6 shots each (optional)
How many runs per stage?
Is it Steel Challenge style with five runs per stage and throw out the slowest run on each stage and add up the other four?
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Old 05-17-2006, 1:01 PM
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Check the links.

This is a much less stressful.... just a social fun shoot.... you can choose to reshoot the stages if time permits.... but then after you went around all the stages once.... they have 2-persons team, 4-persons team, and side-by-side draw and shoot kinda matches.... and then a bunch of the people will all go to a pub to have lunch and drink...

Come out next 2nd SAT of the month!!
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Old 05-17-2006, 3:22 PM
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So the main match is just one string per stage, making the total round count 30 rounds?
Then if you so choose you could do the "team match" which I suppose is the same thing but combined time for groups of 2 or 4.


This part seems contradictory:
"The time is stopped when the sixth shot is fired
Five seconds is added for each miss (i.e. "Comstock" scoring)"


If it is "Comstock scoring", that means unlimited number of shots fired to hit the targets. Limited number of shots is usually called "Virginia count".
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Old 05-17-2006, 10:41 PM
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30 rounds for the match! That is less than 1 stage at some other matches.
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Old 05-18-2006, 12:27 AM
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Yes, it is low round counts. But I challenge you to come and shoot a "clean" match... ie. all 30 rounds hit, no misses(and of course... w/ reasonable speed..say 6-8sec to fire each 6 shots).... it is NOT easy....

And this is not IPSC, this is not IDPA... it is a match of its own...

Also, it is CHEAP. $6..... most other matches will be at least $15 or $20....

Most people also shoot each stage twice... that's only $1 more...
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Old 05-18-2006, 10:45 AM
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I'm sure it's a fun match, any match that has been going on that long must be fun to shoot or it wouldn't have lasted so long.

Shooting any all-steel stage clean is challenging, I can screw that up on something as easy as Smoke & Hope.

I just doubt I could motivate myself to drive all the way to a match to only shoot 30 rounds, that's the equivilent to one stage at Steel Challenge, but Virginia count....arghh.
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Old 05-18-2006, 1:13 PM
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Virginia count is great. It makes you slow down and make every shot count. At least it is supposed to. I just can't slow down so I try to miss fast enough to win but it doesn't seem to work for me.
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Old 05-18-2006, 6:57 PM
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Most people reshoot, but only the 1st round counts.

Then... they total up the time for you to shoot all 5 stages... and they will award you with pins.... under 30sec for all 5 stages is the most prestige pin... then under 40sec, under 50sec, and under 60sec....
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Old 05-18-2006, 9:58 PM
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I'm thinking we are going to have to shoot this match at least once. I cannot in good conscious know there is steel within reasonable driving distance that does not know who we are.
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Yar, What part of San Diego are you in. I know a couple of other places to shoot steel that are a lot closer. One goes just over 100 rounds and the other is usually just under 100 rounds. Both are fun but no pins or anything like that.

I think that Ironsite also has a steel shoot once in a while but I don't know that days.
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Old 05-19-2006, 7:29 AM
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elsolo and I are from the greater LA area. We shoot the steel matches at Norco, Palm Springs, and the Rockpile. I actually am the Stage designer for the Norco steel match aka SSA

Our match is better termed steel IPSC. High round count run and gun on steel.
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Old 05-19-2006, 9:01 AM
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elsolo and I are from the greater LA area. We shoot the steel matches at Norco, Palm Springs, and the Rockpile. I actually am the Stage designer for the Norco steel match aka SSA

Our match is better termed steel IPSC. High round count run and gun on steel.

The Rainbow Steel Match is way simplier than any IPSC or IDPA.... it is meant for people to come out... (no holster requirement, no reloading requirement etc...)..... it is nowhere near a "serious" competition shooting as any IPSC or IDPA matches...
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The rainbow match is a blast, and a perfect place for beginners and pros alike.

And the walk and draw is insane. I am looking at my gold pin from the 300th match right now... Great place for a california ar too.

Lots of fun, NO stress.

Just a drive...
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BTT..... cuz..... Rainbow Match again this coming SAT..... 6/10

Bring out your OLL-CA-AR.... you will be welcomed here....
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Second Sat (July already!) is rolling around again, and I'm thinking about trying this.... Never shot a steel match; aside from the links in the first post, what do I want to do to prep a little? What do most folks shoot? Glocks? 1911? Is there any reason to go with a certain caliber, or just bring what I bring and do it?


From the photo links, it looks like some kneepads may help when kneeling in the dirt but otherwise, no "concealment clothing or like that.
Sunscreen and a hat, fer sure!


Speaking of which, what kind of holster - concealment holsters, ala IDPA, or more like IPSC, or anything goes? I know, no crossdraw or shoulder holsters. How much ammo should I bring? Recommended number of magazines, etc....


What time should I show up; how long does the match run? Any help would... help!
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Just show up with whatever you have and have fun. It's a fun match and I would go if I didn't have another event that is on the same day.
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.... I would go if I didn't have another event that is on the same day.

Would that be at Pala?? That was my other option!

So far I've only shot IDPA, which is a hoot. Just looking for more.
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My other match is ICORE in San Diego. If it was on another day I would add Rainbow to my list.

Tool, If your in the San Diego area there are a lot of places and time to shoot. You can keep really busy if you have weekends and some weeknights available.

There's IPSC, IDPA, ICORE and a lot of fun pistol shoots that don't cost to much to shoot.

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Just make sure the gun holds 6 rounds, and bring your most comfortable holster, the only drawing you'll do is the walk and draw, and it's optional,(but fun). If you consider yourself to be really fast and accurate, bring a speed holster and a major caliber pistol. I won the walk and draw with a sti 40 cal with a cr speed holster with normal cap magazines. I beat a couple of guys that hit first, because a 40 cal double tap with full power loads puts the plate down quick!!! The look on the other guys face is priceless. On one draw, I hit the plate three times on the way down.

But you will still do well in the regular match with any reliable gun. I used my 6" revolver with light 38's for the match(less recoil than a 22), and my race gun for the W+D. Skill over technology, but picking the right tool is never a bad idea...

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Second Sat (July already!) is rolling around again, and I'm thinking about trying this.... Never shot a steel match; aside from the links in the first post, what do I want to do to prep a little? What do most folks shoot? Glocks? 1911? Is there any reason to go with a certain caliber, or just bring what I bring and do it?


From the photo links, it looks like some kneepads may help when kneeling in the dirt but otherwise, no "concealment clothing or like that.
Sunscreen and a hat, fer sure!


Speaking of which, what kind of holster - concealment holsters, ala IDPA, or more like IPSC, or anything goes? I know, no crossdraw or shoulder holsters. How much ammo should I bring? Recommended number of magazines, etc....


What time should I show up; how long does the match run? Any help would... help!
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Old 07-06-2006, 9:37 PM
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Be there just before 900am on the second Saturday of the month.
The match usually runs till about 1230pm or so.
It may run a little longer or shorter, depending on how many people show up.
A fun match that is worth the drive.
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nice.... hope I can make it out next month... sounds like fun.

So, is there a table to sign up and stuff... It'll be my first time so I'll be kinda lost.
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