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Old 08-30-2010, 3:04 PM
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Default Big 5 M95 Steyrs on sale

I dont know a thing about the Steyr but at 79.99 i might just have to check em out. Im a sucker for cheap milsurps, however I'm thinking the ammo isn't quite so cheap. Who has one of these? ... tell us about them.

HUNGARIAN STEYR OR AUSTRIAN STEYR STRAIGHT -OR- STEYR ‘M95’ BOLT-ACTION RIFLES
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andddd the ammo

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info....8bb68e45dfb216

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Neat rifles, but I've passed on them as the ammo is a PITA to find and I've never found any boxer primed brass to reload.

$80 is pretty tempting, though.......reminds me of the 3 x $60 M-N M44's I bought from Big 5 back in '99.....

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Got mine at Big5 over a year ago. Nice little shooter, but kicks hard due to its light weight and relatively powerfull cartridge. Straight action pull not as smooth as in Swiss K31. But overall...what could go wrong for $80?
I've got several hundred rounds of ammo for it from Aimsurplus some time ago. Should last for a while 'cause I don't shoot it much.
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Bear in mind these guns don't have internal magazines. I am lead to believe they only function if you have stripper clips.

Brass is available from Grafs, or at least it was when I bought 100pcs of boxer primed (2yrs ago?). It may have been formed from another cartridge, for all I know. Has visible annealing marks on the case.

So, buy some of that Nazi-marked ammo (only ammo I've seen available) and take the stripper clips - then load some ammo and you're good to go with modern reloadable goodness.

ETA: http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...categoryId/793 - they still have the brass apparently, it just isn't in stock presently.
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strong kicking rifles ammo is pricey around 1$+ a shot unless you reload. If you really want a straight pull rifle get a K31
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"8x50R Lebel"

Would that it was....even at $1.55/rd....

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Does anyone have a good site that explains the markings on these?
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You can usually find 8x56R in reloadable cases from Grafs -- Hornday makes it, then you just have to get the .329" bullets, Grafs usually has those as well. But the Hornaday stuff is more than $1 per round.

You can fire it single-shot, or use the stripper clips. Old West Scrounger has them from time to time, eBay too, although the prices are usually pretty high.
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i have 3 of them. neat little rifles, and yeah the recoil is...amusing. not for ye of sensitive shoulders. you can probably expect the bore to be mediocre at best from big5(mine was). surplus ammo isn't too hard to find, but it's all magnetic as far as i know. so forget about being able to shoot it at most ranges....hey you wanted to get into reloading anyway right? go with the lee dies and the brass/bullets that hornady sells. it's good stuff.
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I have 2-3 of them, and a long rifle version too. They are a hoot. When I picked one up in the early 1990s, ammo was scarce. All that was out there was the Nazi stuff on stripper clips, packed 15 rounds to a box. 1938 vintage. Great ammo. Mildly corrosive (maybe).

It kicks like a mule, so be warned. But with all of the reloading componants available today, you can roll your own for about the same as most other rifle cartridges. They make dandy brush guns, and are easy to carry all day long. They also have decent accuracy. Bayonets and ammo pouches are still available online. And the stripper clips, while uncommon, are not as expensive as those for the Gew 88, or the 3 round Berthier. On par with the carcano ones usually. If you can get your hands on a few boxes of the Nazi ammo, you will end up with more than enough for casual shooting.
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i checked one of these out when i was at big 5 a week ago, it looked pretty rough and the muzzle was clearly worn so if you wanna get one inspect it thoroughly
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I absolutely love 'em! Then again I'm a little weird like that...

Anyway- I was about to fly down to my local big 5 after reading your post- but before I did I looked on Big 5's website to look for the deal myself... Absolutely nowhere to be found. After a few moments of research- YOUR LINK is to the Big 5 add... At a location in TEXAS! AUGH! I wish I was in Texas yet again... (Yes- Not all Big 5 locations are treated equal).

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that doesn't mean that they are not on sale here, there are many things in big 5 that go on sale but don't make the ad
last week they were $99, it may have been their regular price too i'm not sure on that though.
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Sorry, man ... Im not happy at all! I was gonna check them out tomorrow. I didn't realize the Big 5 was Texas, LOL. I thought they were all the same! I think ill go see my local Big5 manager and see whats up. Hopefully they have em in Cali....With the coupon you could get one out the door for about a hundred at that price.
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Just for a lark- on my way home tonight I stopped by 2 local big 5's only to find absolutely no M95's whatsoever. One store only had a 91/30 and a Yugo SKS. The other only had a Yugo SKS & Auto-Ordinance M1 Carbine...

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I own 3 of them and reload my own ammo.

You can find brass and bullets at http://www.buffaloarms.com/

Chargers at http://www.ows-ammo.com/catalog/

Hornady manufactures factory ammo and I think Prvi Partisan has started making it as well.
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To those of you saying your Big 5's have M95's in stock (for whatever price) consider yourself lucky- my big 5's have been out for several years now
Really? M95's are just about the only C&R other than 91/30's my Big 5's keep in stock.
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Really? M95's are just about the only C&R other than 91/30's my Big 5's keep in stock.
Sigh... Maybe they will come back 'round here someday... Until then I will have to make do with what I have...



And that's not including the long rifles...

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And that's not including the long rifles...

(Yeah for the record- I'd say I'm the resident Steyr M95 addict here on Calguns)

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Wow, that's a nice collection. I'm digging the third one down from the top. That dark brown just looks nice
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And that's not including the long rifles...

(Yeah for the record- I'd say I'm the resident Steyr M95 addict here on Calguns)

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Does the resident Steyr M95 addict know of a good resource on their markings?
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These are neat carbines and every C&R enthusiast should own at least one.
You can get new Prvi and Hornady ammo from Graf's, as well as all the components to reload. The original Nazi marked ammo comes up for sale at Gunboards and Gunbroker all the time. It's sold in cardboard boxes of two five round clips each. Both the ammo and the boxes have Swastikas and eagles and they are pretty neat. Try to get the boxes for $10 each before shipping. It's not the ammo you want so much, it's the Mannlicher en-bloc clips you're after.

The rifle is loaded by opening the bolt and stuffing the clip into the magazine Garand style. After chambering the fifth cartridge the clip drops out the bottom of the magazine with a sweet "ping" sound. The clips can be reused forever as long as you don't step on them. Don't load individual rounds though because the bolt is controlled round feed like a Mauser but the extractor is relatively brittle. The action is not quite as smooth as a K31 but then again, these guns have actually had hard careers in several armies over 40 years, unlike any Swiss rifle. The biggest idiosyncrasy of the action is the difficulty of reinserting the bolt if you aren't familiar with the process. Due to worn bolt internals, reinserting a bolt can be difficult...an embarrassing situation at Big 5 or a gunshow.

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I've always meant to get one, considering how cheap they are, but the ammo and clips keep driving me back to the mosins
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Does the resident Steyr M95 addict know of a good resource on their markings?
Here is a list of websites with general M95 info:

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/vie....php?f=30&t=20

And here is an excellent book regarding the M95 & its markings:

http://www.manatarmsbooks.com/scarlata.html

(Although I do not own the above book on M95's- I have the book on Gew 88's from the same author & I must say it's quite good.)

All that being said- if you have a question regarding a single marking- There is no better place to ask than here (i.e. me) or any other collector site (gunboards comes to mind).

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[Edit] DUH! I forgot about that one: http://www.hungariae.com/ It has been a long day.

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Wow, that's a nice collection. I'm digging the third one down from the top. That dark brown just looks nice

Yeah- I'm quite fond of that particular one aswell... It is actually in its original stock (no other numbers or previous line-outs) which is actually quite rare.

Besides- it has that 'been there done that' look



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I have one from Big 5 I picked up about 2 years ago as well. Haven't seen any locally since then. Mine is an M95/30 carbine, which fires the original 8X56 Mannlicher-Schoenauer cartridge. Not to be mistaken with the 8x50, 8x57 or any other chambering these rifles may have been converted into. Yes, it kicks like no other rifle you've ever fired. No, ammo is not cheap. That's fine though, after a few clips your shoulder will thank you for conserving what little ammo you have.

If I was in Texas, I'd be stocking up on these.
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beware that some of CAI's quality control inspector fall asleep. mine came complete with a cracked barrel. that was a quick 80 bucks

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Wow! I've never seen that before. That's a good reminder to all who shoot & collect milsurps to throughly examine their rifles before firing them...

And you know- if you wanted to fix that- there is a person (Mausermarty IIRC) on gunbroker selling M95 barrels (& barreled receivers) all the time.

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mine has a perfect, shiny bore, matching numbers, and pretty nice, dark wood. front barrel band is a little loose, need to fix the hole that the screw goes through as it's rounded out and oversized. i got lucky and fell into a ton of he surplus ammo but most is nazi marked and i'm saving that as it's getting to be worth some money with the marked clips. i'm planning on reloading it with grafs stuff. prvi partizan also makes brass and bullets for it, just not loaded ammo for some reason. Palimino, i've been having some feed problems with mine and was just curious if you had any insight on that. shoot me a pm if you have a chance and i'll go into more detail. don't wanna hog this thread. but yeah, very cool little rifles with a hearty BOOM! buy one, then worry about the ammo.
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thanks palimino, ill check into that. i nearly cries when i saw those cracks but i know its not worth it as far as collectible value goes but its worth it to me to fix it.
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i was at the Mowry ave Big 5 in fremont still has at least one of these for 99, its probably not going anywhere fast though because it is in pretty rough condition, they also had an M1 Carbine that was very nice looking, too bad they wanted 900 for it
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