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Old 08-03-2010, 6:02 PM
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I am sure this has occurred on this site before but I couldn't find it... So please list your top 3 CCW Handguns.

I am in the buying mood so please help me with this.

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Old 08-03-2010, 7:58 PM
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Small guns:
Glock 26/27
Airweight .357
Kahr

Big guns:
Any midsize/fullsize glocks
SA XD
SW M&P



Small guns are ones I carry/would carry in the 100 degree summer heat. Big guns are for winter. I have kept my lists to less expensive guns. If you have a bigger budget, mid-high end 1911s and HK USP would enter the picture.
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In order from smallest to largest; depends on where I'm going to be:

Ruger LCP---Beverly Hills
HK Compact .40---The Valley
Desert Eagle .50AE---Compton

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Old 08-03-2010, 9:06 PM
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Glock 19 or 23
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In order from smallest to largest; depends on where I'm going to be:

Ruger LCP---Beverly Hills
HK Compact .40---The Valley
Desert Eagle .50AE---Compton

that 50 cal gonna be useless in compton they will chop you down
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Bersa Thunder .380 or the new S&W Body Guard .380
Taurus 4" .357/38 (wheel gun)
Sig P229 .40 or .357
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that 50 cal gonna be useless in compton they will chop you down
Crackheads blocks away will drop their pipes when they hear it go off!
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Old 08-04-2010, 8:05 AM
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My 3 CCW guns of choice

Kahr PM40: my "tuxedo" gun
Glock 27: my EDC
Glock 20: When I feel like I need a little "extra umpf"
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Colt Combat Commander in 38 Super
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Smith & Wesson M&P 45c
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I like :
Ruger LCR
G36
SA XD .45C or a G30
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Glock 27/26
J-frame S&W
And something else.
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1. Springfield EMP
2. Smith & Wesson 6904
3. Taurus PT911
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Glock 26
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Diamond Back DB380:
For hot summer days. Shorts and tank top. Fits nicely in front pocket.

Glock 27:
Every day carry. In a MTAC IWB holster or my 5.11 holster shirt.

Steyr M40-A1:
When I can stand the heat and wear more clothing. Usually in an IWB Kholster.
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Mine are my G23 because I'm most comfortable with it and it's really not that much bigger than the small Glocks.

My PT145 because it's a 10+1 .45 caliber.

and my pocket gun is a 642 j-frame. Will always go bang and .38 +p is preferable to .380 in my book.
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Old 08-04-2010, 6:07 PM
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Thanks for the feedback.

I'm going with Glock 23 primary
and then a revolver for secondary... small gun.

I like a few that have been mentioned here...

1. S&W 642 or 638 airweight... can someone educate me on the J frame? I think the 2 modles I mentioned are J frame. Also the +p ability means that it is a newer model that can shoot a more powerful round... correct?

2. Ruger SP101 .357 Mag

I am going to either buy one of the 3 revolvers mentioned or trade for a really nice mini-14 .223 that I have.

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Dont carry but if I did:

G26
LCR (havent shot one , so dont know for sure)
M&P Compact ( havent shot it either.)
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My two primary carry guns: SW40VE Sigma Series (secondary) or Sig P-220 (primary) both full sized carry with no problems.
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i can't believe there's only one Sig on this list. i absolutely love my Sig P220 carry SAO. don't carry yet, but hopefully soon (!) but because of what i have in my possession, my 3 would be:

1) sig P220 carry SAO two-tone
2) Para LDA carry 6+1 stainless
3) sig SP2009

would love to get a little j frame or a small bersa .380, but that's some point in the future.
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mine are = sig 229 .40/.357sig
1911 officers .45
s&w 442 .38

differant guns for differant dress
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Unless you want to spend as much on clothes as you did on the gun....like I said before....snubby. Most of the other guns listed are for guys with office jobs and good posture. If that is you, it really doesn't matter what you carry. If you occasionally reach for the top shelf, get down on the floor to plug in something, etc. etc.......or work for a living building or repairing something, anything but pocket carry is going to be a problem. And, btw, two inch snubbies hide better than the popular Kahr PM9 because they have a curved signature, instead of one like a small brick. Gun and only gun, in a holster that will stay in the pocket, in the front right pocket. Speed strip and only speed strip in the back right pocket. I am better armed than 99.9 percent of the population, but more poorly armed than those who claim to be packing an arsenal.
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S/A 1911 A-1 (Loaded)
Glock 23 or 17

Nighthawk's are for people with way too much money!

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Thanks for the feedback.

I'm going with Glock 23 primary
and then a revolver for secondary... small gun.
Think through your choices before settling on a pistola. What are the odds that you will actually ever need more than 7-9 rounds without reloading? Average encounter is 2.5 shots fired. That's why one of my primaries is an S&W 3914NL - 8+1 capacity, slim profile hides easier and it's lighter too. This is one reason the 1911 still remains a solid choice. Average folks seldom, if ever, get into long firefights. The Springfield EMP-9 is a wonderfuly trim little package that I just can't afford right now, but would be a good choice in 9mm.

S&W 3914NL - 8+1 9mm - "well travelled"

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I like a few that have been mentioned here...

1. S&W 642 or 638 airweight... can someone educate me on the J frame? I think the 2 modles I mentioned are J frame. Also the +p ability means that it is a newer model that can shoot a more powerful round... correct?

2. Ruger SP101 .357 Mag

I am going to either buy one of the 3 revolvers mentioned or trade for a really nice mini-14 .223 that I have.

Feedback is appreciated. Please continue to list 3 favorites!
The S&W J-frame series is a 5-shot .38/.357 caliber revolver in most models. This is currently the smallest revolver S&W markets. There are three basic styles:
1. Traditional "Chiefs Special" with the exposed hammer (SA/DA)
2. Centennial models with a concealed hammer (DAO)
3. Bodyguard models with a shrouded hammer (SA/DA)

The J-frames are actually in two different 'sizes' now. There is the traditional J-Frame used on the .38 Special revolvers like the 638, 442, etc. And there is the J-Magnum frame used on the .357 chambered guns like the 340SC, 640 and 649 revolvers. (see photo below)

The +P (extra pressure) designation is now standardized and means the cartridge produces up to about 10% more pressure than the standard load. For the .38 Special, this means a 20,000 psi pressure vs. 17,000 psi for the standard load. By comparison, the .357 magnum produces 35,000 psi.

Four frame materials are availabe. Blued carbon steel (classics), stainless steel, aluminum alloy and Scandium/Aluminum alloy. The latter alloy allows S&W to build a lightweight .357 Magnum like the 360. These 12-15oz powerhouses are not much fun unless you have masochistic tendencies.


S&W J-frame .38 Special Model 42 (top) vs. J-Magnum .357 Model 649 (bottom)

The S&W 642 Centennial Airweight and the 638 Bodyguard Airweight are .38 +P rated revolvers that utilize an aluminum alloy frame with a steel barrel and cylinder. Typically people refer to these as "carry lots, shoot little" guns for several reasons.
1. Their lightweight means more felt recoil.
2. Heavier +P loads, over time, produce more wear & tear.
3. Earlier models (pre '85) tended to stretch the frame with hotter loads.

These guns can be difficult to manage accurate rapid fire and be painful to shoot for some. Their primary advantage is lightweight.

The steel framed 640 is the heavy (23oz) counterpart to the 642 Airweight. It can also be had in .357 Magnum and carried with .38 +P. The stainless counterpart for the 638 is the 23oz Model 649 in .357 Magnum (above), which is slightly larger overall. With boot grips that stop at the bottom of the frame, these gun can conceal nicely.

The steel guns are not "pocket carry" guns due to their weight. In a winter coat they work okay, but not your docker slacks. Using an IWB I can hide my 649 under a loose fitting polo or t-shirt.

The Ruger SP-101 is a stainless steel 5-shot .38/.357 from Ruger. It is slightly larger than the J-Frame and heavier (about 26oz) and sturdy. The one I have serves as a travelling companion for my hotel room at night and is locked in my car during the day. The 649 I'll wear instead of the Ruger. Advantage for the Ruger is lower price (generally). Rugers are also well know for their durabillty.

Keep in mind that the hardest part of any gun to conceal is the grip. Double-stack magazines usually make it much more difficult to conceal a pistol under a light cover garment than a single stack.

For a compact pistol, the S&W 457 is a small 7+1 shot .45 ACP similar to the 3914 above. It conceals and carries well plus packs the heavier punch of the .45.

The J-Magnum differs from the J-Frame primarily in; a larger cylinder opening for the longer .357 cylinder, thicker topstrap, thicker frame opening for the .357 barrel and a little more steel at the recoil shield area.

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I havent carried anything else since I got the LCP. Small light easy to conceal. Not a whole lot of firepower but I have fome pretty good hollow points for it.
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Kahr PM9 in a pocket holster is my daily carry. I prefer the thinner profile to a snubby revolver in my pocket. It pretty much looks like I have my wallet in my right front pocket if anyone even notices and I've never had anyone mention it or give it a second look.

I also have a Kahr P380 I'm working on breaking in for pants with smaller pockets, but its had a few teething issues so far.
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sig in 357sig----->glaser 100grain powerballs mid
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These guns can be difficult to manage accurate rapid fire and be painful to shoot for some. Their primary advantage is lightweight.
That's for sure...My 642 is a handfull, but not impossible to hit the target.

Here's what I managed to put in the chest of this target at 25 ft or so:

The head shots are with my Glock 27

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Some comparison pics of the G27 and the 642:

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