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Old 07-25-2010, 6:12 PM
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What are the best dies for reloading .223 rem?
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Redding or Forster

if you want the ultimate bling, Warner Tool: http://www.warner-tool.com/reloading.htm

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Custom made dies made with the same exact reamer that cut your chamber. Well, you asked.
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Redding. Type S Match Bushing Set http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=248565
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Bolt? Gas? What kind of chamber?
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The best dies for a .223 is the one that is labeled (.223 FL dies) You can neck size with the FL so might as well just buy a FL.
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I don't know about being the absolute best, but these will make you some very fine ammo:

sizing:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=163485

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http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=531039
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The best dies for a .223 is the one that is labeled (.223 FL dies) You can neck size with the FL so might as well just buy a FL.
That's not necessarily true.

If you only have one .223 (or 5.56mm) rifle, it would be better to just neck size. Your brass will last a lot longer.


...back to the OP's question; I think I'm going to try a set of those RCBS X-dies. It keeps you from having to trim after an initial trimming. I need a new .308 die, so I'll let you know how they work.
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Any full-length sizing dies with neck bushings will be the "best". They allow you to control neck tension, and brass will last a lot longer before the necks split. There is no reason not to full-length size EVERY time.
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Hand dies custom made by an old german toolmaker.
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standard lee rgb work dandy for me

best to me means the cheapest but still works

in autoloaders i've not seen the need for extreme precision


and i'll be blunt i do not see any real purpose for 223 in a bolt gun to me it seems oxymoronic when 22-250 is available
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and i'll be blunt i do not see any real purpose for 223 in a bolt gun to me it seems oxymoronic when 22-250 is available
Wait. What? It seems...oxymoronic? It seems like a contradictory figure of speech, like "cold heat"?

Huh.

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and i'll be blunt i do not see any real purpose for 223 in a bolt gun to me it seems oxymoronic when 22-250 is available
You must like spending money on barrels as a 22-250 will eat a barrel up mighty quick compared to 223.
That's probably not an issue for people that don't actually shoot their guns much though so I can see how you don't see the need for a 223.
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Hand dies custom made by an old german toolmaker.
Will you reveal his name or keep it a secret.
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I don't have a particular one in mind.
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in autoloaders i've not seen the need for extreme precision

and i'll be blunt i do not see any real purpose for 223 in a bolt gun to me it seems oxymoronic when 22-250 is available
Come out and play with us (across the course, mid-range, long-range), and you will quickly discover "the need for extreme precision".

Sometimes the rules specify what calibers one has to choose from. A .223 bolt gun with the right bullet, will keep up with a .308 bolt gun better than most think.
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and i'll be blunt i do not see any real purpose for 223 in a bolt gun to me it seems oxymoronic when 22-250 is available
Ammo availability...

.223 & 5.56mm can be found anywhere. 22-250, notsomuch...

I like 22-250 and I plan on building a 22-250 Mauser someday but I definitely can appreciate the attraction to a .223 bolt gun...
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That's not necessarily true.

If you only have one .223 (or 5.56mm) rifle, it would be better to just neck size. Your brass will last a lot longer.


...back to the OP's question; I think I'm going to try a set of those RCBS X-dies. It keeps you from having to trim after an initial trimming. I need a new .308 die, so I'll let you know how they work.
Yes and No. If its a bolt gun he's reloading for I would say yes "neck size" definitely makes your brass last longer, but any auto loading cartridge (AR's, Mini 14's, M1 Garands you get the point) must always be "FULL LENGHT RESIZED" this is very important for these rapid feeding rifles which really beat up the brass and eject it two county's over.
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the ones u own already
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If you are loading for just one gun I like forester because you can get them honed from forester for $10 to the neck tension you want. Best buy on the market if you ask me.
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If for an AR, Dillon.

If for a bolt rifle, Redding FL Competition dies.

And while 22-250 is great, it definitely is more cost effective to shoot 223...especially for position practice for my 308.

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^^^^^This.
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Wow, I am the only one that uses small base dies for 223?
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Lee full length has worked just fine for me for past 6 years. Fire formed is fine if your gonna use the rounds strictly in the same gun but if you share ammo full length resizing is the way to go.
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Wow, I am the only one that uses small base dies for 223?
Most 223 dies made since the early 90s are small base dimensioned.
The only reason to buy specific "small base" dies are if you are using some 60's to 80's dies.
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FWIW, Dillon dies are small base dies. They just don't need to advertise it and...what Randall said.

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