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Old 07-08-2010, 1:54 PM
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Default Fairfield man arrested after allegedly firing cannon at his home

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Fairfield man held for allegedly firing cannon

Henry K. Lee, Chronicle Staff Writer
July 8, 2010 01:48 PM Copyright .

Thursday, July 8, 2010

(07-08) 13:48 PDT FAIRFIELD -- A Fairfield man who allegedly fired a cannon at his home has been arrested on suspicion of possessing a destructive device, police said today.

Richard Curtis, 25, was arrested at his home on Vienna Court at about 12:30 p.m. Wednesday after police received calls that he had shot off a cannon, authorities said.

Police brought an armored vehicle to the home after being told that Curtis probably owned numerous guns. He was arrested without incident.

No damage was caused. It was not immediately known how big the cannon was.

E-mail Henry K. Lee at hlee@sfchronicle.com.
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If it was a blackpowder cannon, esp. a muzzle-loading one, I don't see how he could be in possession of a DD unless they believe he had explosive shells or something.
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http://www.thereporter.com/news/ci_15465114

A little more detail in this story; "No one was hurt when the device was set off and it appears that no projectiles were fired."
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Is there even a law against firing off a cannon that has no projectile? The only thing I can think of is a noise ordinance.
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Just had this discussion last night at my BlackPowder meeting. It was stated that the NMLA would prefer that we keep it to 3 shots a minute max, or that they "BATFE" might have to consider it a destructive device. In other words if we take our time and cruise it's ok. I think it's kinda hard for some of the veteran cannoneers to go that slow.
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From what I read it was a big bang cannon that you can buy here,


http://www.bigbangcannons.com/

Fairfield is not known for having much common sense. My ex used to be a detective there.
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geesh. can't have any fun anymore. I wonder if they ended up charging him with anything?

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REALLY??? probably owning numerous guns warrants the armored cars being brought out....
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It wasn't me!!!! OK, I have fired a 3" gun at my old home but, I was living on 400 acres and only fired it once. I'm still wondering what everyone at Sherwood Country Club thought they heard that 5th day in July.
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http://cbs13.com/local/cannon.fairfi...2.1797248.html

and the story continues...
I love all the catch phrases used to make him look crazy. After filtering out the garbage I think I would like to hang out with this guy
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Watch the video
what B.S. Pretty scary "cache" with that levergun and all.
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what B.S. Pretty scary "cache" with that levergun and all.
i cannot believe the best the could do was show a wooden box that said "explosives" is that a crime? that was a freakin toy cannon! this bs scares the hell out of me. if they can arrest him then im sure they could arrest 95% of the members right here on calguns too.
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with the "cache of weapons" that included an "assault rifle" they busted him on "narcotics" and "IED".

okay then....

Those Fairfield PD boys really took down a hardened criminal bent on mayhem and destruction.
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The cannon might be legal, but I guess the moral of the story here is to not do anything that would attract attention to yourself. That seems to be the best course of action.

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All of this over a freaking carbide cannon.
Calcium Carbide + Water = acetelyene gas
Gas + Spark = Boom.

Hell, we played with these things as a kid. I still have one at Mom's somewhere. Hmmmm. Shove a potato on the end and make a "plug" then fire it. Potato gun with a 45 foot range. More fun were using 3/4 to 5/8" wood dowels.

But today police would call that an "illegal weapon" or some such bulls--t.

One year, in the City of Sunnvale, a neighbor rolled a small howitzer and a "two pounder" into the bed of his truck and took it down to the nearby park on July 4th. He coordinated with the FD and the firemen were probably even more excited that us kids were (if that was possible). The two pounder he fired with just powder. But the knee-high howitzer did end up shooting a [steel] beer can filled with sand about 80 yards. Way cool. And when the PD showed up, they were like "hey, this is really cool!" -- no one thought a bit about arresting anyone or getting pi--y about it.

This country was born of war, in a revolution. Every year we celebrate Independence Day with fireworks. Those large blossoms and loud bangs emulate the cannon barrages. The "whistling" fireworks emulate the rockets and early mortars. Firecrackers remind us of Musket fire. I think it's a shame that our youth aren't given the chance to enjoy them first hand.
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So if that AR looking rifle was indeed an AW, was he charged for it? I'm not seeing that in any of the reporting.

Also very curious... if the 'experts' determined he had illegally modified what is a toy for all intents and purposes (and that's what a carbide cannon is) how could the same experts not figure out how to "secure it"?

All this time I thought there was actual real crime and a gang problem for Fairfield PD to deal with. Apparently I was wrong since the lieutenant interviewed in the video makes a clear statement that it's the PDs responsibility to determine what is "not right to have in a residential area".
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I'm very concerned. I own two of these cannon that I got from my Father-in-law. No narcotics in the house but considering they called the toy cannon an IED the narcotics in question may only be a bottle of prescription vicoden where the label fell off.

I guess I had better make sure I am well groomed before I shoot it off next time, I need to have a better looking mug-shot for the press release.
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"A Fairfield man who allegedly fired a cannon at his home has been arrested on suspicion of possessing a destructive device, police said today."

Dang, I better leave the Taco Bell burritos at home
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So you'll have a good looking picture of yourself when we donate to CGF on your behalf !!! LOL ....
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More and more the Police spokespeople have to inject "feel" and uncomfortable" into their interviews with the press in order to justify their actions.
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Total BS unless there is more to the story.
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So if that AR looking rifle was indeed an AW, was he charged for it? I'm not seeing that in any of the reporting.
yep, if he was in violation you bet yer money Fairfield, well, Solano Co DA would jump on it. but they had this to say
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Which police say is true.
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Just to be fair(hehe) if he fired it off in the middle of the neighborhood and a few neighbors are noise sensitive, they "could" make a stink. But in America usually the PD or Sheriffs go there and asks the guy to knock it off if the neighbors are noise-sensitive, not arrest on sight.
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my cousin does civil war re-enactment and is a cannoneer and he fires his off a cannon on thanksgiving. why on thanksgiving, i have no idea.
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The real message of this story? One had better fear the "experts" of any police agency who cannot figure out what a Big Bang cannon is. What idiocy.
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Just to be fair(hehe) if he fired it off in the middle of the neighborhood and a few neighbors are noise sensitive, they "could" make a stink. But in America usually the PD or Sheriffs go there and asks the guy to knock it off if the neighbors are noise-sensitive, not arrest on sight.
Well that is pretty much what I used to do when I got sent to fireworks calls.

And thanks for the additional statement from the PD on RAW.... the story wouldn't load fully for me.
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My, how times change...
Attorney Melvin Belli used to fire a cannon from the rooftop of his San Francisco offices every time he won a case.
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So he was arrested because he made the police feel uncomfortable? He had a toy cannon, registered AWs, and some narcotics junk. I can understand the drug stuff, but weapons charges? Come on.
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I think I will clean my cache of weapons today. Sorry I mean collection
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Is there even a law against firing off a cannon that has no projectile? The only thing I can think of is a noise ordinance.
Is a reason needed to be arrested these days?
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Just to be fair(hehe) if he fired it off in the middle of the neighborhood and a few neighbors are noise sensitive, they "could" make a stink. But in America usually the PD or Sheriffs go there and asks the guy to knock it off if the neighbors are noise-sensitive, not arrest on sight.
Where is that America you're speaking of? Is it a country? How does one go about moving there?
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Hope he has a good lawyer. Sounds like he has a decent chance of winning, at least.

Tagging this one to see if anything else develops.
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Revenue generating unless there is more to the story.


So a keg of black powder and length of green fuse is a no no?
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You are all missing the point. With drug paraphernalia possession he wont be getting anything back. Doesnt matter how registered his AW is. If they can prove drug paraphernalia his goose is cooked.
Remember Legal RAW and drug paraphernalia = Felony non wobbler prohibited for life!!!!

This story only includes the canon because that is what scared the neighborhood and they needed a reason to go in the house once dispatch told police that there was a RAW inside. Drugs was a bonus and the destructive device is relevent only now with drugs to get the FED's involved so his California medical marijuana card is rendered useless. Legal Drugs + Legal Guns = Jail + life felony.
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You are all missing the point. With drug paraphernalia possession he wont be getting anything back. Doesnt matter how registered his AW is. If they can prove drug paraphernalia his goose is cooked.
usually with a drug bust there is always mentioning of "123 street value of xyz" was discovered in the raid. It could be vicotin with the prescription lost as far as we can guess
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