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Old 07-07-2010, 4:43 PM
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Went to the range today and after about 40 rounds. I got a bullet stuck in barrel of my Smith and Wesson 9mm. I was scared I ruined my barrel. I had the guy at the range remove the bullet. He just pushed it through from the front end with a rod cleaned. It came out very easily. Oh yeah by the way the round was a reload. The guy at the range said the reason it got stuck was because it was a reload, which I will never buy again. But my question is my barrel damaged cause of this deformed bullet?
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Doubt it seriously. Squib rounds are fairly common.
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no your fine, happened to my $1300 1911 not long ago. Had to use a rubber mallet to beat the bullet out. Shoots as good as ever and it is a very very accurate gun.
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Bullets are made to somewhat conform to the contours of a barrel. That's what makes the rifling work. If you have ever seen a fired bullet the grooves in the jacket will show you what I'm talking about. In any case, your barrel should be fine. The bullet will be damaged before the steel barrel will.
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Old 07-07-2010, 4:56 PM
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That my friend is a squib! I had a squib a few months ago in my Springfield 1911 and had no issues with it as a consequence. If you would have been able to chamber another round and fire it you would have started your post with," My S&W 9mm KABOOM". Glad to hear you didn't get hurt it will be fine.
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How far was it from the chamber?
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No damage! I don't trust purchased reloads 100% but, I don't trust factory ammo either. I've seen guns blow up and, I almost lost an eye from premium FACTORY ammo. Learn to reload and then you know the quality of your ammo.
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Did it sound or feel different that the other rounds you fired? As mentioned, it could have been a squib load; just the round and the bullet, but no powder. Sometimes the bullet will go a few feet and drop to the ground, other times it will get stuck in the barrel. It's not uncommon with reloads.
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Your barrel is very likely in perfect condition. No need to worry.

BUT, a squib round can be very dangerous if the bullet is stuck in the barrel and another round is loaded behind it. The pressure can build up and blow the barrel up, most likely injuring the shooter. You did the right thing by stopping and getting it fixed when you noticed something was wrong.
Now you know what it feels like to have a squib load and you know exactly what to do when it happens again.
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Your lucky you noticed it and didn't fire another round
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Oh, Thank God. I know it is not an expensive gun, but she is my baby. The guy at the range said it was fine also. But I posted to get confirmation from the pros. I hadn't fired her in a few years. I lubed her about 5 months ago and when I took her out to stretch her legs I forgot to give her a new lube job. I was afraid I had caused the problem, but the guy at the range said that wouldn't do it. I'm happy now, I can give my guns a good bath after a fine day at the range. My other gun being a converted Saiga 7.62x39.
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How far was it from the chamber?
It went about 3/4" into barrel.
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Did it sound or feel different that the other rounds you fired? As mentioned, it could have been a squib load; just the round and the bullet, but no powder. Sometimes the bullet will go a few feet and drop to the ground, other times it will get stuck in the barrel. It's not uncommon with reloads.
You know now that I read this the last round did not fire. It just clicked, and nothing, just by luck I seen the round in barrel. I cant imagine the gun blowing up as stated other posts. My god, my niece was firing at the time. How would have explained that to my sister.
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I learned a valuable lesson today. I will be more careful next time I have misfire. I did not know about "Squibs". Thanks again guys!
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being a 3 month NOOB myself...how do you know if a squib round is in the barrel...and not to fire the next round. KABOOM...scary stuff.

again-please explain how I would notice a squib is stuck in the barrel.

thank you..this info may save my life

this was a great thread--never knew this.
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Your lucky you noticed it and didn't fire another round
Unless it was an HK.
http://www.streetpro.com/usp/torture.html

Note: I really recommend against clearing a squib this way. Even for an HK.
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being a 3 month NOOB myself...how do you know if a squib round is in the barrel...and not to fire the next round. KABOOM...scary stuff.

again-please explain how I would notice a squib is stuck in the barrel.

thank you..this info may save my life

this was a great thread--never knew this.
The gun will make a weird sound, like a loose fart escaping. There usually won't be the bang you are accustomed too. Its always good to just pay attention to the sounds your gun makes.

One time I was shooting my glock 22, grabbed a mag off the table, slapped it in and took the first shot. There was a weird POOF sound and an unusual feel, fearing a squib, I dropped the mag and noticed the problem right off the bat: I had grabbed my friends loaded 9mm mag and shot it out of my 40 barrel. I found the case right after, it had expanded to 40cal width right around where the base of the bullet would have been seated in the brass. Didn't do any damage to the barrel, but man I knew right away when it didnt sound right.
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being a 3 month NOOB myself...how do you know if a squib round is in the barrel...and not to fire the next round. KABOOM...scary stuff.

again-please explain how I would notice a squib is stuck in the barrel.

thank you..this info may save my life

this was a great thread--never knew this.
The felt recoil will not be the same as when firing a "normal" cartridge. Also, there will likely be a significant difference in the sound coming from your gun, and its possible a semi-automatic won't cycle the next round in from the light load. I'm not an instructor, but when I notice anything different like this... its inspect your gun time.

Only squib I have ever had was a .22LR in my GSG-5. When fired the back end of the casing blew off, which was quite noticeable since significant smoke was coming from the chamber and the round sounded much different. I pushed a rod down the barrel to clear the rest of the casing from the chamber.... and sure enough there was the bullet halfway down the barrel.
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No damage ... Glad you noticed a dud before you send another round down the pipe !!!!

If that had happened then you'll be buying lots of new parts !!!
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being a 3 month NOOB myself...how do you know if a squib round is in the barrel...and not to fire the next round. KABOOM...scary stuff.

again-please explain how I would notice a squib is stuck in the barrel.

thank you..this info may save my life

this was a great thread--never knew this.
Squibs will have a primer but no powder. The primer detonating is enough to push the bullet into the barrel but not enough to cycle the gun. If you pull the trigger but don't get a bang and your gun doesn't cycle something is wrong. Unload and check the barrel for obstructions.
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First of all, if you pull the trigger on the second round, it will not blow up the gun, but it will ruin the gun by bulging the barrel, and it won't run anymore. A KB will blow the gun up, and is caused by overpressure, either a double charge or bullet setback.
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yahooooooo..thanks guys--great info. love learning new stuff.
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yahooooooo..thanks guys--great info. love learning new stuff.
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Alright, just to clarify:

Once someone hears the unusual sound stated;

How long should we wait to check if the squib has left the barrel?

Do we clear it with the said tool, cleaning rod, from the muzzle end or chamber end?

If a semi-auto, does the spent casing usually eject in a normal manner? And if so, does the next round usually chamber?

Is experiencing a squib really that obvious, sound and felt recoil?

Thank you in advance for your insight. I want to be as safe as possible.
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Alright, just to clarify:

Once someone hears the unusual sound stated;

How long should we wait to check if the squib has left the barrel?

Do we clear it with the said tool, cleaning rod, from the muzzle end or chamber end?

If a semi-auto, does the spent casing usually eject in a normal manner? And if so, does the next round usually chamber?

Is experiencing a squib really that obvious, sound and felt recoil?

Thank you in advance for your insight. I want to be as safe as possible.

The sound is a small pop, just the primer going off.

You can check right away.

Yes, if there is a bullet in the barrel then clear it with a rod of some sort. The muzzle end usually works better ...

Yes, Yes. Thats the dangerous part ... the next round CAN usually chamber.

There is generally no felt recoil as only the primer is fired. That means no powder charge was in the ammo. As a result the primer will only have enough pressure to push the bullet out a little distant only, probably an inch or so. So the sound is only a small pop.

If something feels or sounds wrong it usually is WRONG !!! Always check for a clear barrel before firing another shot. As sending another shot down the barrel can have a massive presure build up ... Thats how guns get blown apart !!!!!!

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Is this more or less common with rimfire??
In my experience, I have had many more failure to fires with .22lr than all the other calibers put together. Felt recoil is almost non-existent in .22lr. Will I really feel a difference with .22lr.? It sounds like it obvious with centerfire ammo. How devastating would a .22lr round be striking a squib round lodged in the bore, rifle or pistol?
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Is this more or less common with rimfire??
In my experience, I have had many more failure to fires with .22lr than all the other calibers put together. Felt recoil is almost non-existent in .22lr. Will I really feel a difference with .22lr.? It sounds like it obvious with centerfire ammo. How devastating would a .22lr round be striking a squib round lodged in the bore, rifle or pistol?
I've squibed .22s before. But, if you are not shooting Calibres or CB caps, they will normally either not fire or have enough energy to make it out the barrel.
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Thanks to this thread, I now have a new profile signature..... Good stuff!!!
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On another gun forum, I'm reading that guys are getting squibs from Winchester and Remington. Not a lot - only 2 guys reported it, but good gosh, I never heard of a squib from a manufacturer.

Absent minded reloader, yes, professional reloads - rare... but factory ammo?

Anybody else see this? I shot 4000 rounds of random 9mm crap (Brown Bear, reloads, WW ammo) last year, and none.

I think some posters might be confusing a squib with a failure to fire. In 22LR - I counted about 1/2% were failure to fire (Remington garbage - hard primer strike and no shot). No squibs...

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On another gun forum, I'm reading that guys are getting squibs from Winchester and Remington. Not a lot - only 2 guys reported it, but good gosh, I never heard of a squib from a manufacturer.

Absent minded reloader, yes, professional reloads - rare... but factory ammo?

Anybody else see this? I shot 4000 rounds of random 9mm crap (Brown Bear, reloads, WW ammo) last year, and none.

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"Factory" ammo has blown up lots of gun.
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It went about 3/4" into barrel.
Sounds like the bullet just got pushed out of the case and it prevented the next round from chambering peoperly... Man you're lucky - if that bullet went a little deeper, it would be much much worse. Never buy reloads from untrusted source. As someone here pointed out, even factory ammo is not 100% reliable. It's important to pay attention to the feel of the gun while shooting. Less or no recoil, lots of smoke/flame, no loud Bang... all indicate a squib roun - stop shooting immediately!
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Is this more or less common with rimfire??
In my experience, I have had many more failure to fires with .22lr than all the other calibers put together. Felt recoil is almost non-existent in .22lr. Will I really feel a difference with .22lr.? It sounds like it obvious with centerfire ammo.
From my experience, with rimfire you are more likely to have no/bad priming than a lack of powder. In that case, of course the bullet will still be in the case when you eject it.

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How devastating would a .22lr round be striking a squib round lodged in the bore, rifle or pistol?
It's difficult to say. I've seen a picture of a cutaway of a .38 special revolver with 5 bullets lodged in the barrel. The barrel didn't rupture until the 5th round. But it did rupture, that's the key point.


Also as to pushing out stuck bullets. Folks might want to consider getting a wooden or brass rod that closely equals your bore diameter and throw it in your range bag. Less chance of gouging your barrel with the raw end of a cleaning rod.
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Wow, good thing you guys noticed it before firing off another round. Although, it sounds like the round after did not fire, if I read your post right. Good thing that happened.

Reloads themselves aren't bad. If done properly and with care, they can be better and more precise than factory ammo. My concern when buying a lot of these mass produced reloads, or reloads from people I don't know about, is that they messed up on one.
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