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jared, you should help me demill mines... i have to redo my AK due my error of forgetting to heat treat both sides of the pin holes for the trigger so the trigger action isnt smooth anymore after ~100rds. hopefully this lands in a sat
If you got room, I got most of the stuff. The most important thing to have that I don't have is a drill press. A drill press makes drilling out the long rivets not really easy but easier to take out. I have the angle grinder and dremels with some punches.

The front trunnion is easy, just grind it down and take off the old receiver and grind flush with trunnion. Once you get to the BP, you can press out the barrel pin and barrel and those rivets will more than likely come out with a little force.

The trigger guard isn't that hard just takes some grinding and punches.

LMK or maybe there is another calgunner with a drill press and some room for a small demill party before the BP. I would be more than happy to hang out and help, just feed me some food haha..

Also, if Alex wants, I can talk to 69Mach1 about the step by step process he did at the socal BP. They cranked out damn near 30 aks the first day, it was crazy. But then again most of the people had their stuff demilled too. I would be more than happy to help steer the people to station to station so we can cranked these out.
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I haven't heard of any bulgy 47s but I can be wrong. Do you have a link?
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Here is one for $250

http://www.gunco.net/forums/f259/wts...y-g-kit-55674/
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july 17 lets get this chicken squakin
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The poultry's vocalization on july 17th would work for me.
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July 10th or 17th would be perfect for me and my Dad!!!
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will any one have to stuff to build a 1.5mm flat?

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Also, if Alex wants, I can talk to 69Mach1 about the step by step process he did at the socal BP. They cranked out damn near 30 aks the first day, it was crazy. But then again most of the people had their stuff demilled too. I would be more than happy to help steer the people to station to station so we can cranked these out.
can anyone compare two finished products from these previous build parties? I have mine and can take some close up shots, would you be so kind as to get some of from the socalbp?

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Just as a heads up......... All those likes you posted are for AK74s not the AK47

You had asked about AK47s not the 74 so that's why I didn't think there are any bulgy 47s unless it is milled.

The link Oldyeller posted, was a good buy...

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can anyone compare two finished products from these previous build parties? I have mine and can take some close up shots, would you be so kind as to get some of from the socalbp?

thanks!
I'll ask in the SoCal BP thread for more pictures but there are a couple of pictures posted already.
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Unfortunately my upper HG broke, so if anybody has a crappy one for sale, I'll buy it.
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Whats the difference between the 5.45 flats and the 7.62 flats... That is to say, is there anything that would need to be different with one build over another? Like would I need a special tool to finish a 5.45 or anything?
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here is mine . shes actually dark cherry in the light





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The mag well on the 5.45 is smaller, and there is less clearance in the front trunion for squishing rivets.
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yup! very fast!

I have even seen kits sub $200 but those are usually rusty and mismatched, not recommended for a first or second time builder
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I have even seen kits sub $200 but those are usually rusty and mismatched, not recommended for a first or second time builder
Wow. That did go fast. Well it looks like Romy for me anyway.

Also, I have a non-Calgun shooting buddy who wants to build an AK (I'm working on making him a member. He's heard PLENTY of good stuff about the community), would there be any opposition to bringing an "outsider"?
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Wow. That did go fast. Well it looks like Romy for me anyway.

Also, I have a non-Calgun shooting buddy who wants to build an AK (I'm working on making him a member. He's heard PLENTY of good stuff about the community), would there be any opposition to bringing an "outsider"?
No, not really. Is he going to be building an AK also?
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Which flat do I order for this puppy? Will there ba a 1.5mm die at the party?

http://www.gunco.net/forums/f259/wts...der-kit-55625/

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Which flat do I order for this puppy? Will there ba a 1.5mm die at the party?

http://www.gunco.net/forums/f259/wts...der-kit-55625/

(My first Yugo)
WOW how did I miss this one?

Lucky I forgot about check gunco forums for ak stuff

Order this
http://www.ak-builder.com/index.php?...oduct_id=30096

http://www.ak-builder.com/index.php?...oduct_id=30099 (Can just grind down the regular center support to fit)

Might need longer axis pins too unless the ones in the kit are longer already.
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Yeah. I think he's just gonna mirror me/mine.
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Yeah. I think he's just gonna mirror me/mine.
I suggest that you go over the build party tutorial that is sticky on the top of the gunsmithing forum. It is made by 69Mach1 and gives you an idea of what to expect. I would try to demill the kit beforehand so you aren't spending the whole bp demilling the kit.

If you are serious, I know there are probably members here that would sell you a nice romy g kit and they might even have it demilled for you too.

I think Oldyeller had some nice Romy G kits that he demilled for about $350. He hooked a guy up with one at my first BP and that guy had his ak done the first day and it was his first time building too.
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I suggest that you go over the build party tutorial that is sticky on the top of the gunsmithing forum. It is made by 69Mach1 and gives you an idea of what to expect. I would try to demill the kit beforehand so you aren't spending the whole bp demilling the kit.

If you are serious, I know there are probably members here that would sell you a nice romy g kit and they might even have it demilled for you too.

I think Oldyeller had some nice Romy G kits that he demilled for about $350. He hooked a guy up with one at my first BP and that guy had his ak done the first day and it was his first time building too.
I'll definitely read through that. Thanks.
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WOW how did I miss this one?

Lucky I forgot about check gunco forums for ak stuff

Order this
http://www.ak-builder.com/index.php?...oduct_id=30096

http://www.ak-builder.com/index.php?...oduct_id=30099 (Can just grind down the regular center support to fit)

Might need longer axis pins too unless the ones in the kit are longer already.
Thanks Z
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I suggest that you go over the build party tutorial that is sticky on the top of the gunsmithing forum. It is made by 69Mach1 and gives you an idea of what to expect. I would try to demill the kit beforehand so you aren't spending the whole bp demilling the kit.

If you are serious, I know there are probably members here that would sell you a nice romy g kit and they might even have it demilled for you too.

I think Oldyeller had some nice Romy G kits that he demilled for about $350. He hooked a guy up with one at my first BP and that guy had his ak done the first day and it was his first time building too.
Yea, I could do that again if you don't find one cheaper.
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No problem. Now, you just have to figure out how to bend the flat. I know we can't do it on the current jig without the upgrade. I know another calgunner who made his own jig, it might be able to bend the yugo flat but it is old school. Basically vice grips, jig, and BFH.


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Well worth it too especially since demilling the trigger guard and long rivets in the rear trunnion can be a PIA.
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If you get the upgrade, I might bend a yugo flat or two just for the heck of it.
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If you get the upgrade, I might bend a yugo flat or two just for the heck of it.
You guys need to call ASAP to see when they'll be in stock again. I think Curtis is out of stock on those right now otherwise we would've had it at the Canyon Country build party. I had a few people wanting to bend the new 1.5mm Yugo flats.
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So, after reading through *most* of the AK build party tutorial, it's beginning to look more and more like I want to have a kit BEFORE i get to the build party. Prior to reading that, I was under the impression that the real point of the build and the most challenging part was bending the flat (because I have neither a press, a jig, or experience).

My initial intentions were to just get the flat bent and the rest could be done from home, but now I'm seeing welding involved and more.

Is it the popular consensus that I want to have most of, if not all of, the parts I need, in hand, before arriving (or at least have a seller lined up to sell me a kit there)?
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I suggest that you go over the build party tutorial that is sticky on the top of the gunsmithing forum. It is made by 69Mach1 and gives you an idea of what to expect. I would try to demill the kit beforehand so you aren't spending the whole bp demilling the kit.

If you are serious, I know there are probably members here that would sell you a nice romy g kit and they might even have it demilled for you too.

I think Oldyeller had some nice Romy G kits that he demilled for about $350. He hooked a guy up with one at my first BP and that guy had his ak done the first day and it was his first time building too.
that would be me, but i made a amateur mistake and need to redo it
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So, after reading through *most* of the AK build party tutorial, it's beginning to look more and more like I want to have a kit BEFORE i get to the build party. Prior to reading that, I was under the impression that the real point of the build and the most challenging part was bending the flat (because I have neither a press, a jig, or experience).

My initial intentions were to just get the flat bent and the rest could be done from home, but now I'm seeing welding involved and more.

Is it the popular consensus that I want to have most of, if not all of, the parts I need, in hand, before arriving (or at least have a seller lined up to sell me a kit there)?
Of course you should have a kit before going to the BP. Read my comments above. If you are going to a BP without a kit, that's fine if you want to hang out and learn. Bending the flat is easy. Welding isn't even that hard to do. The most challenging part is probably just doing the rivets besides from the demilling.
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that would be me, but i made a amateur mistake and need to redo it
I have some experience with BPs now so whenever we have the next one I will be more than happy to setup the step by step process for people. It may seem like it would be more hassle and take longer but...... it's not. It basically streamlines the process for AK building.
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Of course you should have a kit before going to the BP. Read my comments above. If you are going to a BP without a kit, that's fine if you want to hang out and learn. Bending the flat is easy. Welding isn't even that hard to do. The most challenging part is probably just doing the rivets besides from the demilling.
Ok, well then I'm gonna try and push up the kit buying.

What about something like this:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c...0&kwtid=376119
and then, since I have to buy some American parts anyway, why not make the barrel (which seems to be the only thing missing) one of them?
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Ok, well then I'm gonna try and push up the kit buying.

What about something like this:
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and then, since I have to buy some American parts anyway, why not make the barrel (which seems to be the only thing missing) one of them?
Read my original suggestion, I would only recommend buying a matching numbers kit with the original barrel. Mismatched kits, barrel less kits or even kits with US Made Barrels should be left to the more experience builder. Take it from someone who has been to a couple of BPs, if you come with a non matching numbers kit without the original barrel, plan on spending 2 or 3 build parties getting it done.
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Read my original suggestion, I would only recommend buying a matching numbers kit with the original barrel. Mismatched kits, barrel less kits or even kits with US Made Barrels should be left to the more experience builder. Take it from someone who has been to a couple of BPs, if you come with a non matching numbers kit without the original barrel, plan on spending 2 or 3 build parties getting it done.
Fair enough. I'm gonna get to googling for a matching parts kit. Thanks for taking me under your wing, Z, and keeping me from making several simple but potentially costly mistakes.
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Fair enough. I'm gonna get to googling for a matching parts kit. Thanks for taking me under your wing, Z, and keeping me from making several simple but potentially costly mistakes.
There are a lot of different websites to buy matching # kits from.

Here on Calguns.net is a great place
theakforum.net
akfiles.com
gunbroker.com
ar15.com

just to name a few. Once you build a few aks, you can do a mismatched kit or even a us barrel kit but those are still a PIA for people who have built aks before. I don't mind too much doing them but if I started off with one I would have been lost in the woods.
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There are a lot of different websites to buy matching # kits from.

Here on Calguns.net is a great place
theakforum.net
akfiles.com
gunbroker.com
ar15.com

just to name a few. Once you build a few aks, you can do a mismatched kit or even a us barrel kit but those are still a PIA for people who have built aks before. I don't mind too much doing them but if I started off with one I would have been lost in the woods.
I found this:
http://whatacountry.com/romanian-ak-47-parts-kit.aspx
which looks good to me.
Otherwise there's definitely some stuff on the other the sites you suggested but I'm skeptical of sales on a forum that aren't FTF. Gun broker had some stuff too. I'll keep digging, but just like that suggested one earlier today, they go fast!
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I found this:
http://whatacountry.com/romanian-ak-47-parts-kit.aspx
which looks good to me.
Otherwise there's definitely some stuff on the other the sites you suggested but I'm skeptical of sales on a forum that aren't FTF. Gun broker had some stuff too. I'll keep digging, but just like that suggested one earlier today, they go fast!
For that price, I would just buy a kit from Oldyeller and have him demill it for $350. You figure, 299 plus the shipping 14 total 313, pay oldyeller $37 more to get one demilled from him. He sells good stuff and trust me $40 for demilling a kit is worth it. Also if you buy two, he might knock a couple of dollars off since your buddy would want one too.

For example, I have some headspacing problems on my krink build. I also have to drill the trunnion. Yeah I could do it myself but instead I sent it off for $40 to have it done by someone else. I prefer to do things myself but certain things are worth it to have done by someone else.
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