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Old 05-19-2010, 8:42 PM
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Default Legal to mount pistol to AR?

My gut says no, but a friend and I were kicking around the idea today.

Say I put a scope mount on my USP, which attaches to the forward accessory rail on the bottom of the frame and rises above the gun with a second rail, enabling scope attachment.

So what if I used mounting hardware to attach the scope rail to an accessory rail on the underside of my AR15 similar to the M203 or the shotgun mounting?

Would the USP then become part of an assault weapon? If so, it wouldn't have a fixed mag or long enough barrel. The hypothetical AR (I have one, but I don't have any rails) would have a BB and other evil features.

The gun is almost totally pointless, but it would A. look cool and B. make one hell of a home defense weapon.

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I'm pretty sure its illegal. Sounds so mallninja stupid it just has to be.
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My first thought before reading this post: WTF?

The thought after reading the post: W...T...F...
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Serious???
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well, if featureless, maybe you could do the forward grip? i dunno
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Hey I never said I'd do it.

I was just curious if it was legal, and I didn't think so. I knew it would draw flak...but curiosity got the better of me.
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the common concensus in the NFA world is that if you mount a pistol (or an AOW) under a rifle, that the rifle's shoulder stock makes that pistol an SBR since it is now a firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder with a barrel <16".
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Mako tactical actually makes a mount. It attaches to a glock mag base plate.

Those guys must smoke a lot of weed....
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the common concensus in the NFA world is that if you mount a pistol (or an AOW) under a rifle, that the rifle's shoulder stock makes that pistol an SBR since it is now a firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder with a barrel <16".
Ah OK. I knew it had to be illegal somehow. I forgot about pistol with shoulder stock thing.

And let me reiterate, I never thought of actually doing it
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$425 for that thing?????
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I'm pretty sure its illegal. Sounds so mallninja stupid it just has to be.
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Mounting a compound bow to my quad rail as we speak.
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Mounting a compound bow to my quad rail as we speak.
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so what if you attach an a legal shotgun without the PG and stock, which is still over 26" under your ar or any other rifle? is that considered legal?
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The handgun needs a little Derringer below it.
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The handgun needs a little Derringer below it.
And the derringer needs a bayonet.

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so what if you attach an a legal shotgun without the PG and stock, which is still over 26" under your ar or any other rifle? is that considered legal?
Like Billy?


Or Moe?


I say go with the pentagun, if you can find a Moe Syzlak special (double barrel pump shotgun)
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They should make a rear facing version of this.
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i vote for attaching one of those propane fueled blow torches to the barrel! more of a theatrics then a bayonet and you can cook up hotdogs in a jiffy when your out on the trail!
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the money you waste trying to do it is better off being used on ammo purchase's
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That contraption looks like a really easy way to have an accidental discharge
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Hey OP, I'm sorry you're receiving so much flak for this. Some people think that if something is out of the ordinary and doesn't have a specific purpose for them, they can ridicule and make fun of whomever suggested it.

ke6guj is correct, the pistol mounted to the AR is generally considered a short barreled rifle because of the stock.
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Well what about if you mounted a pistol onto an AR pistol?
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I heard a local swat team used this during a hostage rescue.... the criminals died laughing!
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Hey OP, I'm sorry you're receiving so much flak for this. Some people think that if something is out of the ordinary and doesn't have a specific purpose for them, they can ridicule and make fun of whomever suggested it.

ke6guj is correct, the pistol mounted to the AR is generally considered a short barreled rifle because of the stock.
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Well what about if you mounted a pistol onto an AR pistol?
nobody knows for sure. Similar question regaring mounting a registered AOW under a pistol. Does that make the pistol an AOW as well? What if I register my AR-pistol as an AOW before I mount an AOW Super Shorty under it? It should be legal, but we don't know for sure.

edit: thinking about it more, a pistol under a pistol would probably be considered an unregistered AOW. Basically it would be the same thing as installling a VFG since now you have a firearm that is conceallable and designed to be held with two hands.
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in the face

in the nuts

in the face

in the nuts

I only use the pistol to f up your world without accusations of torture then I shoot you in the face
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Could be worse... you could be a lawyer.
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