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Old 05-05-2010, 10:11 PM
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Default Silent pistol from the Russians

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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5ac_1273116930

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The PSS silent pistol (official GRAU index 6P28) is the last completed weapon system resulting from the Soviet development of silent pistols operating on a sealed cartridge system. Two previous designs were considered unacceptable for use due to their limitation to two shots. Earlier systems included the MSP and SP-4M double barreled pistols. Developed around 1980, the PSS was first issued to KGB More..Spetsnaz in 1983. Intended for assassinations and reconnaissance, it was produced in the special weapons foundry at Tznitochmash. PSS pistols are still in use by elite special forces units of many nations, as well as by some FSB, MVD, and KGB elite units.
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The PSS was developed to give Soviet special forces and secret police an almost completely silent option for covert operations such as reconnaissance and assassinations. The weapon uses a unique cartridge with an internal piston to achieve this end. Otherwise, it is a fairly simple double action pistol. Few details are known about the pistol's performance, as only a few have entered western hands.
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The PSS uses a specially developed 7.62x42mm necked round. The cartridge contains an internal piston and a propelling charge, with the stem of the piston against the base of the bullet. On firing, the piston delivers enough impulse to project the bullet from the barrel to an effective range of 25 meters. The piston then seals the cartridge neck, preventing noise, smoke, or blast from escaping the barrel
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:21 PM
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I wonder if those are on the roster?
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:24 PM
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not very pretty.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:39 PM
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Could this be C&R?
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not very pretty.
Function over looks!
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:27 PM
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7.62x42? why couldn't they just make it a 7.62x39?
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:28 PM
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Function over looks!
That's what I tell my wife.
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7.62x42? why couldn't they just make it a 7.62x39?
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not very pretty.
Who cares. its STEALTH pistol. not just for planes anymore
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7.62x42? why couldn't they just make it a 7.62x39?
Maybe they had to increase the size of the cartridge to fit the internal "unique piston" the article refers to?

It's not that much bigger than 7.62x39...makes sense to me.
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The original silenced pistol from the Russians:
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a silenced revolver? hmm
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The cylinder moves forward to close the cylinder gap seen in most other revolvers. You can hold it around the front of the cylinder while firing without burning your hand. It makes for very interesting range sessions with people whose only experience with revolvers is a nagant and you hand them anything else. I know a Russian fella with powder tattoos thanks to his first range session in the US.
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Old 05-06-2010, 11:35 AM
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damn i didnt know that. and you say all the nagants are like this?
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http://world.guns.ru/ammo/sp-e.htm#SP-4

I wonder how BATF would handle a US manufacturer of these rounds in common cartridges/calibers?
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I want to see the rail gun in action that some kid invented in Russia. He got an award or something like that.

Here's a pic of some very rare specialty kgb ammo and arms.

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It's called silent ammo. In the 70's the U.S. government had Lt.Col. Bo Gritz test it out for them.
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Looks cool, but the old dudes look pissed...
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damn i didnt know that. and you say all the nagants are like this?
Not all. The 1895s which have flooded the market do. My 1887 does not.
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Old 05-13-2010, 9:51 AM
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why hast any other manufactuers done this with thier revolvers? this would be a nice function on smith and wessons
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