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Old 04-19-2010, 11:59 PM
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Default whats a good powder for super accurate 223 loads?

I've been using reoader 15, but the sticks tend to make the metering inconsistant. I'm looking for a powder which meters great in a dillon 550, so it probably will be spherical.

Anyone have any experiance in this area?

What is the best powder for the most accurate loads in .223 on a 550? How about 308?
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Old 04-20-2010, 7:33 AM
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Each gun reacts diffrent to diffrent powder. You can try TAC, AA2230, H-335, varget. Their all gOod powders. I have 6 .223's and 3 like 2230, 2 likes rl15, 1 likes 2460.

You have to try it yourself, but alot folks likes varget and h335
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Varget and H335 are my Go-To powders for 223. Varget for 62gr and higher bullets and H335 for 60gr and less. Either powder can be used with either weight but that is just my system.

I know what you mean about metering. The longer stick Varget is not a great metering powder. I just got 8lbs of Benchmark and while it is an extruded powder (stick) it meters well because they are very short sticks so its almost like a ball.
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For anything 55gr weight and above , Vit N140 is awesome and meters really well.

For anything 55gr weight and below , Benchmark and the new IMR 8208 XBR meter really well and work fantastic.
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Accurate 2015 , Winchester 748, Hodgdon blc-2 and 335 . Actually the .223 is a very easy cartridge to load for
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From my experience, Varget and IMR4895. These are 2 of my favorite loads.

Sierra 69gr BTHP (Match King) - 24.9 or 25.0 Varget with Rem 7.5 primer gets less than .5 MOA groups out of my Savage 10FP and less than 3/4 MOA out my ARs.

Sierra 53gr HP (Match King) - 25.5 grains of IMR4895 with Rem 7.5 is my standard accuracy load. Shoots around 3/4 MOA groups out of all ARs I tried.
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I use H335 in my 550. Meters well and accuracy is good.
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Varget! But doesn't meter too well. Doesn't matter. I use a RCBS chargemaster when loading for accuracy.
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Varget is great but I tickle each load individually for all my rifle loads. The automated machines are just not accurate enough for super consistent loads. They weigh Volume and not weight, it changes too much for me from charge to charge
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I just loaded up on some Varget, but I kinda liked what I got with Tac...
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I have had really good results with Winchester 748 and CCI #450 primers. I have started playing around with Red Dot but dont have any solid numbers to give an accurate picture of performance yet.
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What does tac and IMR4895 look like? I know tru blue is small speres which meter well in a dillon
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Winchester 748 with Nosler Ballistic Tips works great in a Dillon 550. ( 1/2" groups or better)
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IMR4895 is a small grain stick powder. It meters better than regular sized stick powder. I use RCBS Charge Master so I don't have to trickle it anymore. But I always trickle my rifle charges when I use a drum type powder measure.
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Years ago, I bought a couple of 8lb jugs of reclaimed 2230C that shoots extremely well in my ARs.
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Believe it or not, IMR 4895 worked well for me with Sierra 69 grain MK bullets.
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I have no trouble believing you, but what does the IMR 4895 powder look like?
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I use Varget with 69 SMK's as well assembled with Wilson stainless neck dies and strait line seater (w/arbor Press) or single stage with Redding Comp dies.

When shooting 55gr FMJ blasting ammo, I use H335 loaded on my 550B.

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I've had very good luck with Win 748 and CCI 450 primers. Varget seems to work well for me also. Mostly loading 55 gr BT bullets with 748. Same with Varget and Sierra 69 gr. HPBTM.
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I have no trouble believing you, but what does the IMR 4895 powder look like?
It is a stick powder (extruded) kinda looks like varget, awesome powder but doesnt meter as good as the ball powders like 748 etc
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TAC is a very fine ball powder.
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TAC is a very fine ball powder.
TAC is a very fine ball powder.

(For emphasis. It pours like water.)
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I used AA2230 for plinking 55gr & 62gr loads and I use Reloader 15 for my 77gr match loads. Had great results with both. The trick is to find the right powder amount.
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I have no trouble believing you, but what does the IMR 4895 powder look like?
Here is a picture of the 4 powders I currently have. I have more but most of them look the same as one of these 4.

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25.3gr of H335 on a 55gr = .5" or better @ 100 yards
same for my 60gr AMAX and 69gr SMk great out to 400 yards
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24.0 gr of Varget for NRA HP shoots for 68gr HPBT and 75gr Amax and above.

26.5 gr BLC-(2) for 55gr plinking/zombie ammo. Its same as WC846 milsurp so you cant go wrong and its ball so it meters like beachsand
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I have used lots of imr4320 in my 223 with 52 grain bullets as well as 62s and 68?s. AA2230, 2460 are both great too. Lots and lots of great powders out there.

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TAC is a very fine ball powder.

(For emphasis. It pours like water.)
Have you tried it in 308? I'm interested in TAC because it sounds like it would work for 223, 308 and 30-06 Garand loads and it's cheap.
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I agree Varget and Benchmark - they will perform well over wide temp. ranges.
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Excellent pics on the powders. Thanks.
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I just bought a pound of the new IMR 8208 XBR, anyone had any luck with this? From what I have been able to read, it is the latest and greatest of powders. Looking for a accurate load out to 350 yds.
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I have used lots of imr4320 in my 223 with 52 grain bullets as well as 62s and 68?s. AA2230, 2460 are both great too. Lots and lots of great powders out there.



Have you tried it in 308? I'm interested in TAC because it sounds like it would work for 223, 308 and 30-06 Garand loads and it's cheap.
I've used TAC in .308 and had excellent results using 42.0 grains under a 168gr SMK.

I found some Varget for my 175's though I'm pretty sure that TAC would be fine there too.
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I've been using reoader 15, but the sticks tend to make the metering inconsistant. I'm looking for a powder which meters great in a dillon 550, so it probably will be spherical.
There is no powder that will be dispensed consistently enough from a dillon powder measure to be considered "super accurate".

The best accuracy will be found by weighing charges.
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