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Old 04-16-2010, 6:32 AM
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Default No Glock Gen 4's in California???

Asked about when the Gen 4 Glocks will be available at my dealer, they said probably never. Claims Glock is not going to submit them for Cal drop testing. And yes, this is a Glock dealer...sells a lot of them.

IS THAT TRUE???
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You're getting info from a salesman who wants to make a sale. The Gen 4's aren't rostered (and nobody can make predictions), but he has Gen 3's that will get him a commission.
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Old 04-16-2010, 7:30 AM
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The Gen4 Glocks are not on the approved list.

So for CA, the only way you can get one is via LEO sale or PPT or out-of-state intra-familial gift.

The Gen4 Glocks have too many internal changes for Glock to get them listed via the exemption they used to get the SF & RTF2 Glocks listed. So, if Glock submits them for testing they will need to have a CA DOJ approved chamber load indicator and a magazine disconnect.
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In before Greg_Dawg posts pictures of his Gen4.
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In before Greg_Dawg posts pictures of his Gen4.
I seem to see his Gen 4 everyday. He sneaks it into every thread that is relevant.
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Asked about when the Gen 4 Glocks will be available at my dealer, they said probably never. Claims Glock is not going to submit them for Cal drop testing. And yes, this is a Glock dealer...sells a lot of them.

IS THAT TRUE???

Glock Smyrna told me that they already tested and it failed w/o the additional requirements needed to submit a new firearm so as of right now you will not get one unless you can get it thru PPT.
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In before Greg_Dawg posts pictures of his Gen4.
Is it IBGDPPOHG4 or just plain IBGD?
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Old 04-16-2010, 1:02 PM
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The Gen4 Glocks are not on the approved list.

So for CA, the only way you can get one is via LEO sale or PPT or out-of-state intra-familial gift.

The Gen4 Glocks have too many internal changes for Glock to get them listed via the exemption they used to get the SF & RTF2 Glocks listed. So, if Glock submits them for testing they will need to have a CA DOJ approved chamber load indicator and a magazine disconnect.
Thanks, that makes it more clear...
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In before Greg_Dawg posts pictures of his Gen4.
You rang?









I need to take new pics...
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Nice emphasis on the non-neutered mags.
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Nice emphasis on the non-neutered mags.
No neutering is the way to go. Getting guns neutered is like getting kicked in the balls.
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The Gen4 Glocks are not on the approved list.

So for CA, the only way you can get one is via LEO sale or PPT or out-of-state intra-familial gift.
So if I have a friend who is LAPD, and he purchases a GLOCK 19 Gen 4, would I be able to acquire it through him through PPT legally, according to CA law? (I am not LEO)
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So if I have a friend who is LAPD, and he purchases a GLOCK 19 Gen 4, would I be able to acquire it through him through PPT legally, according to CA law? (I am not LEO)
Prefectly Legal to do so if he buys it and decides he doesnt want it.

If its a straw purchase, that can get questionable.
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Yes, that is correct.
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What glock gen 4 are you looking for? I can get u a gen 4 glock 17,19,22,23 for $590 delivered to your FFL in single shot configuration. None of my distibutors have any g19,s in stock right now, but that will change I'm sure.

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Resurrecting this thread from the Grave. Has anything changed in Ca regarding the Generation 4 Glocks? I'm looking to purchase a 21C in the So Cal area in about a week or so. GalleryofGuns doesn't list any Gen 4's for Ca dealers so I'm guessing its still not on the roster.
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Not on the roster, only way is through single shot excemption
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Old 01-23-2011, 2:42 PM
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If you read through the thread, you would know that Gen4 Glocks will not be on the roster.
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Asked about when the Gen 4 Glocks will be available at my dealer, they said probably never. Claims Glock is not going to submit them for Cal drop testing. And yes, this is a Glock dealer...sells a lot of them.

IS THAT TRUE???
The search bar is hear for that reason..In any case I heard it was simply because they dont want to retest. There's no reason why it would fail the drop test, the 1rst gen models passed it 20 years ago...(I'm assuming were talking about the literal "drop test" on cement/metal etc...)...
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Valkyrie Arms of Milpitas can legally sell you a Gen4. I've personally fondled a Gen4 G22 at their store. 100% legal too.
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The search bar is hear for that reason..In any case I heard it was simply because they dont want to retest. There's no reason why it would fail the drop test, the 1rst gen models passed it 20 years ago...(I'm assuming were talking about the literal "drop test" on cement/metal etc...)...
I thought it was because its different enough to be considered a new model, since most parts are not interchangeable with the Gen 3.

Since it is a new model, it would need a magazine disconnect safety. Glock knew they had a choice: either introduce such a safety or not sell to civilians in California. They chose the latter.
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Old 01-23-2011, 6:29 PM
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Its possible I guess. I thought you had meant it "failed" due to a drop test and I know they are perfectly safe for that. In any case, the single shot exemption is awesome for guns like this. You could always get it that way through an place willing to do so.
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I thought it was because its different enough to be considered a new model, since most parts are not interchangeable with the Gen 3.

Since it is a new model, it would need a magazine disconnect safety. Glock knew they had a choice: either introduce such a safety or not sell to civilians in California. They chose the latter.
Yes, as stated before, CA has determined that it is a new model and needs to meet the current requirements including a magazine disconnect mechanism. GLOCK is not willing to add that feature. I met with GLOCK reps at the SHOT show and that is still their corporate line.
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Where can I get a Glock 4th Gen and a SIG SP2022 all at the same place?
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Where can I get a Glock 4th Gen and a SIG SP2022 all at the same place?
Where? at my house.... come and get it.
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Prefectly Legal to do so if he buys it and decides he doesnt want it.

If its a straw purchase, that can get questionable.
Well... straw purchase is illegal, period... doesn't matter who does it, LEO or not.

But from what I've gathered, a LEO buying a pistol under their exemption, and then doing a PPT sale of said pistol is apparently legal. Ethical? Well...

Brand new Gen4 Glocks in CA can be had via single-shot exemption, as well, if you are able and capable of doing that.
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http://www.tablerockarms.com/index.p...d=59&Itemid=62 this place is cool to CA try them out
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I called Glock today and the only thing the lady would say was that the submitted the Gen 4 guns to the CA DOJ and are waiting for the results.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^i thought glock wasn't even going to submit the gen 4 because they don't have a mag disconnect and loaded indicator
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I called Glock today and the only thing the lady would say was that the submitted the Gen 4 guns to the CA DOJ and are waiting for the results.
Please stop spreading FUD... Glock GEN4 doesn't have MAGAZINE disconnect safety...
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So what does this all mean? Will Glock have plenty of the old style handguns for sale in CA? Or, when they run out of them, no more Glocks in CA?

Also, why is a newer Gen 4 sought after? Are they actually any better of a handgun?

Thanks.
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So what does this all mean? Will Glock have plenty of the old style handguns for sale in CA? Or, when they run out of them, no more Glocks in CA?

Also, why is a newer Gen 4 sought after? Are they actually any better of a handgun?

Thanks.
Glock has stated that the Gen4 Glocks will not replace production of the Gen 3 Glocks.

People want the Gen4 Glocks because they have replaceable backstraps and use a "newer" recoil spring system that suppose to provide less felt recoil.


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I called Glock today and the only thing the lady would say was that the submitted the Gen 4 guns to the CA DOJ and are waiting for the results.
At the 2010 SHOT Show, the Glock reps said that CA DOJ BOF rejected the Gen4 Glocks because they did not have an approved chamber load indicator and did not have a magazine disconnect.
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I will be moving to California in a few weeks and own a Gen4 already. My understanding is that I can bring it into CA and just register it with CA DOJ. Am I correct?
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I will be moving to California in a few weeks and own a Gen4 already. My understanding is that I can bring it into CA and just register it with CA DOJ. Am I correct?
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so its legal to buy as a single shot, and its legal to own as a semi?
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Yep - picking up mine tomorrow.


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Picking up my 4th gen G27 tonight as well. From Valkyrie Arms in Milpitas.
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May be a stupid question, but I really don't know.

What is the Single Shot modification change on the gun, and does it void Glock's warranty?

I got to shoot a Glock 17 Gen 4 at a gun show and it felt awesome! so much so I wanted to head out and buy one, only to find the whole conversion needed issue. Don’t know if the one I shot had this mod or not. I do know part of what I loved was the almost nonexistent recoil and I don’t want to have them yank the new recoil spring system in the mod process.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
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May be a stupid question, but I really don't know.

What is the Single Shot modification change on the gun, and does it void Glock's warranty?

I got to shoot a Glock 17 Gen 4 at a gun show and it felt awesome! so much so I wanted to head out and buy one, only to find the whole conversion needed issue. Donít know if the one I shot had this mod or not. I do know part of what I loved was the almost nonexistent recoil and I donít want to have them yank the new recoil spring system in the mod process.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
There's a sticky at the top of this forum page regarding most everything about single shot exemptions:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=383692
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