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Old 03-26-2010, 11:16 AM
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Anyone have one of the American Spirit Arms side charging Uppers? I think Addax was making some uppers on it -- how does it feel when it cycles -- more crap ejected towards your face?
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I like it more than the standard uppers. Never noticed anything spraying from the left side, as with any upper to much oil on the carrier and you will get sprayed from the open ejection cover. It feels exactly the same, the charging handle is lightweight and non-recipricating so there isn't anymore mass cycling than the standard rifle.
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I am curious about this upper as well--are there any more reviews on them?
Any dirt/sand issues with so much open orifices into the upper?
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special weapons magazine had an article on that same rifle a few months back if you could find it, as I recall it was a pretty good review.
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I handled one at the SHOT show at their booth, and was immediately impressed. I have not fired one, however. I do plan on eventually replacing my current upper with one when funds allow.
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Good quality item, but with everyone putting BADs on their AR, it may interfere with the CH on the ASA. Other than that, I'd say it is good to go.
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I think you have to buy the whole rifle? I don't see where you can just buy the stripped upper and lower
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At the SHOT show they said you could buy a stripped upper, or have it built with any of the barrel combinations that they sell and have a complete upper.
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At the SHOT show they said you could buy a stripped upper, or have it built with any of the barrel combinations that they sell and have a complete upper.
I wonder how you would build a side charger upper with an adams pistol piston kit. Also some ASA side charger uppers come with a carrier so which one do you use:

Note: borrowed the pictures from another calgun member

This kit was designed for an AR-15 pistol with a 7.5" barrel.





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Addax Tactical makes a ASA Side Charger with the PWS Long Stroke Piston System. I am slowly but surely raising the funds for it so I can have something to match my AR Pistol

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I am curious about this upper as well--are there any more reviews on them?
Any dirt/sand issues with so much open orifices into the upper?
There is very little open, not "so much open". There is more of an opening on an AK when the safety is off then this. Besides a little sand on the outside of the carrier isn't going to do anything.

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Good quality item, but with everyone putting BADs on their AR, it may interfere with the CH on the ASA. Other than that, I'd say it is good to go.
If I am not mistaken ASA changed the design in both the cut in the upper and the charging handle to acommadate the extended bolt catches. I am using a Phase5 EBRv2 (much better than the BAD in my experience with both) and I just used a sanding attachment on the dremel and shaved the top of the Phase5. Before I did that it did make contact with the EBRv2 and I just forced it forward. It isn't even close to hard, it is a small obstruction. Then again the Phase5 is metal and the BAD is plastic so I can't speak to the BAD on an ASA upper.

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I think you have to buy the whole rifle? I don't see where you can just buy the stripped upper and lower
http://www.americanspiritarms.com/pr...iver-38-4.html

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I wonder how you would build a side charger upper with an adams pistol piston kit. Also some ASA side charger uppers come with a carrier so which one do you use:
The only difference between the standard carriers and ASA's carriers are a small notch milled in the side of the carrier. You would send your carrier into ASA and they will mill the notch for you. After that is done, the conversion is done.

Notch cut in carrier Picture:


My rifle has changed a bit, but here is a pic of it a couple months ago:
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That is clean Josh I remember seeing the other pics you posted up near the pool, I could be wrong though

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Hah, yep those are mine and I love my side charger. I've said it a lot, that if the sidechargers were more affordable I'd have a lot more.
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I think I am going to order the 16" Addax Tactical ASA Sidecharger to match the PWS Diablo GPU I have now and they will both look similar misnus an actual stock on one



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Then again the Phase5 is metal and the BAD is plastic so I can't speak to the BAD on an ASA upper.
What are you talking about?

The Magpul BAD is machined aluminum. There's nothing plastic about it at all.
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I've been wondering if the ASA Sidecharger can handle the bigger AR Rounds (6.8SPC, .458 Soccom, etc)?
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I've been wondering if the ASA Sidecharger can handle the bigger AR Rounds (6.8SPC, .458 Soccom, etc)?
I have built a few 6.8 Side Charging Uppers (both DI and Piston), and it handles 6.8 without any issues.

I have not tried .458 Socom.
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Anyone have one of the American Spirit Arms side charging Uppers? I think Addax was making some uppers on it -- how does it feel when it cycles -- more crap ejected towards your face?
We are still building side charging DI and Piston uppers using the ASA upper.

I really like the ASA Side Charging Upper, and Phase 5 has shipped us a few of their new EBR V2 for the side charging upper receiver, so the combination of the two are outstanding IMHO.

The side charging upper feels totally fine to us when we use it, and it is a solid upper.

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