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Old 02-13-2010, 7:54 PM
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Okay, I've figured it out.

The strobe and the siren were for a rave Ben was throwing, gotta have the lights and noisemakers for the dancing.
The radio scanner was to make sure they could scatter before johnny law showed up to break up the party.
The handcuff, well one of the DJs was cute and a bit wild so...

I'm just guessing here so remember, none of this is to be taken as factual or even rational.
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Okay, I've figured it out.

The strobe and the siren were for a rave Ben was throwing, gotta have the lights and noisemakers for the dancing.
The radio scanner was to make sure they could scatter before johnny law showed up to break up the party.
The handcuff, well one of the DJs was cute and a bit wild so...

I'm just guessing here so remember, none of this is to be taken as factual or even rational.
Wow Kes, you are way more hooked into the rave scene than I would've thought. I'm having flashbacks to the early 90's.
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Okay, I've figured it out.

The strobe and the siren were for a rave Ben was throwing, gotta have the lights and noisemakers for the dancing.
The radio scanner was to make sure they could scatter before johnny law showed up to break up the party.
The handcuff, well one of the DJs was cute and a bit wild so...

I'm just guessing here so remember, none of this is to be taken as factual or even rational.

If this happened in the last 24 hours, then.... hell.... I'd buy this version of the story... LOL!!!
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The handcuff, well one of the DJs was cute and a bit wild so....

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Okay, I've figured it out.

The strobe and the siren were for a rave Ben was throwing, gotta have the lights and noisemakers for the dancing.
The radio scanner was to make sure they could scatter before johnny law showed up to break up the party.
The handcuff, well one of the DJs was cute and a bit wild so...

I'm just guessing here so remember, none of this is to be taken as factual or even rational.
Hmmmm

Handcuffs and a cute DJ.....

Sounds just kinky enough to be fun....
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Strange they don't say the strobe was red.

I am a tough sell on criminal cases, guess that's why they don't like me on juries.


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Okay, I've figured it out.

The strobe and the siren were for a rave Ben was throwing, gotta have the lights and noisemakers for the dancing.
The radio scanner was to make sure they could scatter before johnny law showed up to break up the party.
The handcuff, well one of the DJs was cute and a bit wild so...

I'm just guessing here so remember, none of this is to be taken as factual or even rational.
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Heck I have all that stuff....and different color filters for the lights....(Harbor freight rocks!)


But this certainly is a good way to quash a local advocate of the 2nd Amendment.
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Heck I have all that stuff....and different color filters for the lights....(Harbor freight rocks!)


But this certainly is a good way to quash a local advocate of the 2nd Amendment.
Somehow I doubt a 2A-quashing conspiracy here.
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Heck I have all that stuff....and different color filters for the lights....(Harbor freight rocks!)


But this certainly is a good way to quash a local advocate of the 2nd Amendment.
I have a red Q-beam for varmint hunting, I also have a couple scanners. But I don't know any girls kinky enough for handcuffs.
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This thread is totally worthless with out pics! Besides, she was prolly Ugly!
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I hope they get it cleared up quick. Good luck to you.
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Everyone should be comfortable that Ben has good legal representation. Of course this is not a CGF case, but I know we'll all be rooting for this to be over quickly so he can get back to his regularly scheduled volunteerism for the cause.

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All this could be mistaken identity...could be this guy:
https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServi...?LicNum=884900
who runs this:
http://www.cbc-construction.net/experience.html

Another Ben Cannon that lives in the 707...

and here I thought Ben Cannon was a pretty unique name..
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All this could be mistaken identity...could be this guy:
https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServi...?LicNum=884900
who runs this:
http://www.cbc-construction.net/experience.html

Another Ben Cannon that lives in the 707...

and here I thought Ben Cannon was a pretty unique name..
Its the same Ben Cannon.

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Previously, Mr. Cannon was the founder, President, & CEO of CBC Construction & Engineering, and Cannon Aerospace. As head of Cannon Aerospace, Mr. Cannon managed & produced, under government contracts, airborne night vision surveillance systems. He has been recognized by 3 governmental branches for his achievements in airborne sensor systems integration and realtime recording. At CBC, Cannon headed a Performance Bonded Prime contractor program and has been influential in several important California infrastructure projects. Prior to Cannon Aerospace, Mr. Cannon founded Cartesian Systems Internet, an ISP/NSP, in 1994.
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Its the same Ben Cannon.
Ben Cannon is a badass!
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Have you verified any of this information?
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Previously, Mr. Cannon was the founder, President, & CEO of CBC Construction & Engineering, and Cannon Aerospace. As head of Cannon Aerospace, Mr. Cannon managed & produced, under government contracts, airborne night vision surveillance systems. He has been recognized by 3 governmental branches for his achievements in airborne sensor systems integration and realtime recording. At CBC, Cannon headed a Performance Bonded Prime contractor program and has been influential in several important California infrastructure projects. Prior to Cannon Aerospace, Mr. Cannon founded Cartesian Systems Internet, an ISP/NSP, in 1994.[/Quote]
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If some guy is running around impersonating a Police, let alone targeting and harassing women, I hope he's apprehended and convicted.
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I wish you best in beating this accusation.
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What really gets me about Mr. Cannon is that he (according to multiple accounts reported on the interwebs) founded his first company at 14.

- Benjamin Philip Cannon (born October 9, 1980)
- Cannon was the Founder, and Chairman/CEO of Cartesian Systems Internet, an ISP/NSP, in 1994.

If we ever need a nickname for Ben, I think, "Doogie Howser" should suffice.
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Assuming the charges are without merit, good luck.
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Games the police and media can play:

police scanner = ham radio
strobe = fancy flashlight or bicycle signaling light with blinking LEDs
siren = bullhorn/announcer that has a siren button

Be careful accepting what is written at face value.
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I'm glad there was no EBR involved in this.
Best of luck Ben.
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Games the police and media can play:

police scanner = ham radio
strobe = fancy flashlight or bicycle signaling light with blinking LEDs
siren = bullhorn/announcer that has a siren button

Be careful accepting what is written at face value.
If he didnt do i then i dont care if he had the best scanner radio shack sells, the starky & hutch limited edition dash board mounted bubble gum strobe light and a collection of handcuffs. Those things are legal to own.

However if hope the person who did pull the woman over gets the book thown at him because i doubt she is the first or only victim.
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Games the police and media can play:

police scanner = ham radio Assualt Weapon=SKS
strobe = fancy flashlight or bicycle signaling light with blinking LEDs 1K rounds of ammo=2 value packs of 22LR
siren = bullhorn/announcer that has a siren button Wanna be Patriot=carrys copy of the constitution and owns a gun.
Be careful accepting what is written at face value.
The media lies and we all know it.
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Games the police and media can play:

police scanner = ham radio
strobe = fancy flashlight or bicycle signaling light with blinking LEDs
siren = bullhorn/announcer that has a siren button

Be careful accepting what is written at face value.
Kinda like the way they describe everything as an assault weapon, unless it was stolen out of one of their patrol cars, then it's just a semi-automatic rifle.
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i'm sure ben will be fine.

somebody is going to be in some deep doo doo when ben goes after them. we've all seen how hard he fights and what he's done for us all starting with the oll's.

good luck ben and give 'em hell.
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"Spallino said that detectives from the Violent Crimes Investigations Unit developed Cannon as a possible suspect. After the victim positively identified Cannon as the suspect, detectives began a surveillance of him. Cannon was located and arrested at his residence in the 1100 block of East Sunnyslope Road in Petaluma."

I don't understand the above portion of the news article. So VCIU got a description of Cannon, then somehow got a picture of him, then showed the picture to the "victim", then the "victim" positively ID's Cannon as the "perp", then VCIU monitors him for a few days and finally arrests him at his home?
I am completely confused on the chain of events from alleged "incident" to arrest. Quite a bit of time elapsed between incident and arrest.

Good luck Mr. Cannon.
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Possible defenses:

1. The woman is mistaken and the stuff in the car is perfectly legal to possess.

2. The woman is a liar and someone planted that stuff.
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Possible defenses:

1. The woman is mistaken and the stuff in the car is perfectly legal to possess.

2. The woman is a liar and someone planted that stuff.
Regardless of what was in the car, the only thing the woman could have seen was the siren (audible/visual). She would have had no knowledge of handcuffs, police scanner, etc... so all that other stuff is m00t. Also, she claims there was a badge flashed, but none found.
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Could this have any connection to the EPA detective situation?

C'mon I know some of you guys were thinking it.

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Have to admit, I went there immediately. Withholding all comment until further information is available.

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Could this have any connection to the EPA detective situation?

C'mon I know some of you guys were thinking it.

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Could this have any connection to the EPA detective situation?

C'mon I know some of you guys were thinking it.

Purely coincidental....... Sure!
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Son of a *****! This really blows, Ben. I know you will come out on top though.

I love the fact you are exercising your 5th Amendment rights
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No one should be speculating on Mr. Cannon's innocence or guilt. We simply do not have the evidence to say based on the spotty information provided in media reports. We certainly don't have the right to play with the reputation of a good man who has done more for the 2nd Amendment in this state that most of us combined.

I would like to request for the mods to LOCK (but not close) this thread until such time as solid developments occur.
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No one should be speculating on Mr. Cannon's innocence or guilt. We simply do not have the evidence to say based on the spotty information provided in media reports. We certainly don't have the right to play with the reputation of a good man who has done more for the 2nd Amendment in this state that most of us combined.

I would like to request for the mods to LOCK (but not close) this thread until such time as solid developments occur.
Thank you.
Interesting perspective... to me, it seems that he has tremendous support...
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Interesting perspective... to me, it seems that he has tremendous support...
I didn't say he didn't. The potential for harm to Mr. Cannon's defense is what has me concerned mostly. Nor is it our place to speculate on the pending litigation of one of our own (that has NOTHING to do with gun rights).
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I didn't say he didn't. The potential for harm to Mr. Cannon's defense is what has me concerned mostly. Nor is it our place to speculate on the pending litigation of one of our own (that has NOTHING to do with gun rights).
So... Ben posts this here to notify everyone of both the charges, as well as the ramifications it will have on the operation of CGN and CGF, and then follows his own advice and withdraws from the discussion.

You want to silence the discussion which is a combination of questions, clarifications, and speculations, because it could do... what?

Unless someone is going to post "I was there and I saw it all, too, and I'm gonna tell the police that it was Mr. Cannon because I know, and here's the Youtube video of it all!" what harm is being done?

It sure seems like a friend can't be discussed, but a friend of a friend can be lynch mobbed.

I'm seeing a groundswell of support here for Ben.
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So... Ben posts this here to notify everyone of both the charges, as well as the ramifications it will have on the operation of CGN and CGF, and then follows his own advice and withdraws from the discussion.

You want to silence the discussion which is a combination of questions, clarifications, and speculations, because it could do... what?

Unless someone is going to post "I was there and I saw it all, too, and I'm gonna tell the police that it was Mr. Cannon because I know, and here's the Youtube video of it all!" what harm is being done?

It sure seems like a friend can't be discussed, but a friend of a friend can be lynch mobbed.

I'm seeing a groundswell of support here for Ben.
Hang on, so you're telling me that Calguns has a double standard for locking a thread? What it comes down to is if it's a cop being accused we'll lock the thread, but if it's one of us we'll keep it open. For what?






























Gotcha.

Honestly, I just think it isn't in Mr. Cannon's best interest to have his case discussed here in any way. These are very serious allegations. Allegations that have nothing to do with the 2nd Amd.
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