Calguns.net  

Home My iTrader Join the NRA Donate to CGSSA Sponsors CGN Google Search
CA Semiauto Ban(AW)ID Flowchart CA Handgun Ban ID Flowchart CA Shotgun Ban ID Flowchart
Go Back   Calguns.net > FIREARMS DISCUSSIONS > Centerfire Rifles - Semiautomatic or Gas Operated > Semiauto Rifles Gallery
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Semiauto Rifles Gallery Post pictures of your rifles and carbines here!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-12-2016, 9:06 AM
SoloDallas's Avatar
SoloDallas SoloDallas is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: La Jolla, SoCal
Posts: 395
iTrader: 12 / 100%
Default Specialized Armament Civilian Legal 14.5 'looking' barrels.

I know some don't like these; or are concerned with function over time, permanent state of the barrel in that condition etc. but I never liked the current civilian legal look of common AR15 barrels.

While they are supposed to be - legally - a total of 16 inches (per ATF definition) most civilian barrels made are still 16" without the flash hider or similar device.
So often the go way longer than needed legally.

Me being extremely passionate about US military AR15s (not interested much in any other) I never truly liked the 16" barrels with their profiles.

Mind you, this is completely just aesthetics. So it's not at all (for me) a functional aspect; it's only a hobby for me and so it'll stay.

Mostly, I like my rifles for how they look and I set them up mostly in that regard.
So this is almost exclusively a looks related thing for me.

With that clear for you,
Specialized Armament is an Arizona based company operating for the past 25 years. I am sure several on this board know it. They are considered the Colt custom shop in the country; even Colt itself considers them highly.

When I learned of how they shape civilian Colt barrels to make them look like the military ones, I was sold. So much that, I purchased two 6920 Colt Uppers and had them do the work.

More at the link and a couple pictures of the final result.


http://www.specializedarmament.com/c...bbl_16_bbl.htm



Colt Magpul Carbine 14.5 Pinned
by SoloDallas, on Flickr


Colt Magpul Carbine 14.5 Pinned
by SoloDallas, on Flickr


Specialized Armament Barrels
by SoloDallas, on Flickr


Takes Two To Tango.
by SoloDallas, on Flickr


Muskets
by SoloDallas, on Flickr


Military Colt M4A1, 14.5 Barrel (Specialized Armament)
by SoloDallas, on Flickr
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-12-2016, 3:06 PM
SoloDallas's Avatar
SoloDallas SoloDallas is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: La Jolla, SoCal
Posts: 395
iTrader: 12 / 100%
Default

Other configuration.



Colt Magpul SAW Barrel Alternate
by SoloDallas, on Flickr
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-13-2016, 12:47 PM
SoloDallas's Avatar
SoloDallas SoloDallas is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: La Jolla, SoCal
Posts: 395
iTrader: 12 / 100%
Default

I love these M4s so much I keep on changing bits and pieces around.

But I keep it classy


Colt M4 Specialized Armament
by SoloDallas, on Flickr
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-14-2016, 8:58 AM
MustangSteveGT's Avatar
MustangSteveGT MustangSteveGT is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Redwood Country
Posts: 782
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

14.5+2" pinned muzzle brake barrel looks noticeably different in person. Attached pic to show difference. Regular ar15 "carbine" barrels are 16" PLUS another inch or more of detachable muzzle brake. So assembled, both setups are notably different when you see both in person. Never realized out 'duck shotgun long' looking my original barrel was. There's no going back for me.

Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20160311_215550.jpg (95.6 KB, 151 views)
__________________
NRA Endowment Member

Last edited by MustangSteveGT; 04-14-2016 at 9:01 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-14-2016, 10:40 AM
SoloDallas's Avatar
SoloDallas SoloDallas is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: La Jolla, SoCal
Posts: 395
iTrader: 12 / 100%
Default

There you go.
I wholeheartedly agree. It's right there, in front of our eyes.

I think not only in person, but it stands out even in pictures.

And handling it too makes a difference.

At this point, not only I will never go back but I also find it hard to believe we haven't resorted to this earlier - speaking specifically about myself.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-25-2016, 12:47 AM
jimbo74's Avatar
jimbo74 jimbo74 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NorCal
Posts: 168
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

so you said there are some issues, or some might think there are issues, what exactly is the problem?

I like the look......

and how do these actually compare to the M4?

I am more familiar with the M16 though, as that is what I drug around for a bit
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-25-2016, 1:01 AM
tuna quesadilla tuna quesadilla is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,602
iTrader: 37 / 100%
Default

I'm a little confused. 14.5" or 14.7" pinned barrels are nothing new, not by a longshot. Is this just a plug for this shop in Arizona?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-25-2016, 1:07 AM
HibikiR HibikiR is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 763
iTrader: 11 / 100%
Default

I'm more curious as to which CG prefers asthetically, 14.5 or 14.7?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-28-2016, 1:44 PM
SoloDallas's Avatar
SoloDallas SoloDallas is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: La Jolla, SoCal
Posts: 395
iTrader: 12 / 100%
Default

Sorry guys it took me a while to respond. Busy working.
Glad to answer a few things, if I may.

Jimbo, well I didn't mean to say that I do share the view on the potential issues these (may or may not) have; but we need to take into consideration the following:

- the (Colt) barrel gets cut (nothing wrong here) to 14.5 and then,

-SAW adds their unique, specific flash hider that is based on the A2, but longer. It gets pinned and welded into place permanently. Can't undo, the barrel stays as it is.

You can take a look at the description of this process (and look at the actual pictures) at the link below:

http://www.specializedarmament.com/c...bbl_16_bbl.htm

Some people won't accept that permanent modification to their barrels.
Some may also have doubts about lasting quality or side effects.
I personally don't have any doubts, and spoke with Ken (SAW owner) about this. None whatsoever, thanks to the process they apply to these uppers.

It's just a work of art.

Once again, the objective here is looks. Looks only; functionality, of course, MUST remain as good as it was before (accuracy etc.).
I just wanted my rifle(s) to look like authentic Colt M4s (or M4A1s), with the military length barrel of 14.5.

I just can't stand the look of the 16 AR15 barrels anymore. They always do look excessively extended to me, especially once you have gotten used to 14.5 (or shorter).

Regarding Hibiki's question, I too would be curious. I have no idea of such preferences and I am probably indifferent myself, as long as I am fooled into thinking it looks like an authentic M4 Military barrel.

Last edited by SoloDallas; 04-28-2016 at 1:48 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-28-2016, 2:02 PM
SoloDallas's Avatar
SoloDallas SoloDallas is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: La Jolla, SoCal
Posts: 395
iTrader: 12 / 100%
Default

Just dressing 'em up slightly differently


Colt SAW Upper
by SoloDallas, on Flickr

Last edited by SoloDallas; 04-28-2016 at 3:29 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-28-2016, 8:28 PM
SoloDallas's Avatar
SoloDallas SoloDallas is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: La Jolla, SoCal
Posts: 395
iTrader: 12 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tuna quesadilla View Post
I'm a little confused. 14.5" or 14.7" pinned barrels are nothing new, not by a longshot. Is this just a plug for this shop in Arizona?
HAHA (hadn't seen your comment earlier).
A plug? For Specialized Armament?
You mean for Colt's official custom shop that's been working for the past 25 years for US Military and Special Forces?
My friend. Erase your confusion by informing yourself.
And no, these barrels are uniquely different from any other pinned and welded barrel out there.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 3:02 AM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Proudly hosted by GeoVario the Premier 2A host.
Calguns.net, the 'Calguns' name and all associated variants and logos are ® Trademark and © Copyright 2002-2016, Calguns.net an Incorporated Company All Rights Reserved.