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Old 01-26-2016, 2:06 PM
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Has anyone had any experience dealing with a customer that presents a Federal Explosive License and claims they are exempt from the DROS/4473
applications? The person claimed that the license only requires an A&D transfer with the dealer recording the FEL number and Business name in my A&D book; similar to an FFL to FFL transfer...

It's a new one on me.
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contact ATF for clarification / verification of legal transaction.
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Has anyone had any experience dealing with a customer that presents a Federal Explosive License and claims they are exempt from the DROS/4473
applications? The person claimed that the license only requires an A&D transfer with the dealer recording the FEL number and Business name in my A&D book; similar to an FFL to FFL transfer...

It's a new one on me.
Good question. Have the FEL show you documentation where he is allowed to do that and educate us all. That's what I have to do when I purchase LCM, Blue Labels, etc. I carry a binder with all my documentation.
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Nope, sorry.

Let us know what you find out.
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My google-fu is usually pretty strong...I can't find anything to support the claim that FEL = 4473 exempt.

Did you get a copy of the FEL?
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Only affects FFLs if they want to make things that go bang, or flashbang as the case may be, with high explosives.

Weird.
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Seems like a quick call to BATFE and asking a field agent would get the job done. Please post your findings once you have figured this out.
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They are not a FFL. Ask them if they will sell you some explosives without any paperwork since you have a FFL.

Check the number with the BATF ezcheck web page to make sure that their "FFL" is valid, if not, no sale.

The only reason I would ever ask the BATF is just for fun.
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I hold both an FFL and FEL.

The FEL does NOT exempt you from the 4473 (which is essentially dealing in firearms)

The FEL has nothing to do with the FFL. Some items such as flashbangs overlap meaning you need both FFL and FEL to deal in them, but that is something totally different
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Been trying to research this further with the customer who says his brother works for a guy with an FEL and brother says he's seen the FEL walk in, buy an 870, sign some document, and walk out with it... I suspect there is some very misinterpreted information being passed along.

It's a dead issue, as far as I'm concerned, unless I find out something more substantial...
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He may be wrongfully passing the FEL off as an FFL to some unsuspecting dealer...I hold both FFL / FEL and am not aware of any exemption that allows someone to forgo a 4473 because they have an FEL
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Been trying to research this further with the customer who says his brother works for a guy with an FEL and brother says he's seen the FEL walk in, buy an 870, sign some document, and walk out with it... I suspect there is some very misinterpreted information being passed along.

It's a dead issue, as far as I'm concerned, unless I find out something more substantial...
That makes sense. I can't use my FFL to buy explosives so I don't see how he could use FEL to buy guns.

It was an interesting question.
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The more I think about it I'm guessing that what was signed was the final DROS and 4473...
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Try calling this number, It's the one for asking questions on my "Employee Possessor Letter of Clearance" which ID'd me to work under the auspices of employer's FEFC. Give them the information and they should be able to tell you. 1-877-283-3352
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