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Old 01-21-2010, 11:53 PM
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Default Any opinions on the IMI Timberwolf .357 mag pump?

I am thinking of buying an IMI Timberwolf pump in .357 mag from a family member. It is new in the box. Is the magazine capacity an issue with this one? It is a tubular mag >10 rounds on a centerfire pump action. Anyone know anything about these? Any body ever shoot one? Are they still made? I just like the idea of a small pump in .357. I bet those bullets get moving pretty good out of a 20" barrel.


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tube magazines are exempt from the 10rnd rule IIRC
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I want one
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I want it if you don't. That is nice.
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Beautiful! Those handle very well and are loads of fun at the range or in the field.
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That thing looks like so much fun. I love lever and pump actions.

I googled and found this link:

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That thing looks like so much fun. I love lever and pump actions.

I google and found this link:

UziTalk.com
Thanks for the link. Interesting info.....
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The stock on the Timberwolf if also adjustable. So when the user puts a scope on the milled rail at the top of the receiver. The 357 magnum Timebrwolf produces the same enrgy at 100 yds. that of a rifled cartrige the 7.62x39.
I didn't know that about the stock!
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Well then it is as good as mine!
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Is the magazine capacity an issue with this one? It is a tubular mag >10 rounds on a centerfire pump action.
The tube magazine for the IMI Timber Wolf will need to be limited to 10 rounds, in order to be legal for transfer in CA [PC 12020(a)(2)].


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tube magazines are exempt from the 10rnd rule IIRC
Only for .22 caliber firearms [PC 12020(c)(25)(B)] and for lever-action firearms [PC 12020(c)(25)(C)].

Tube magazine on a pump/slide-action firearm are not exempt. Unless, it is a .22 caliber pump/slide-action firearm.


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(a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.
(c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.
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Thanks for the clarification Quiet.
I will have to check on the mag capacity. If it holds more than 10, maybe I can install a "plug" similar to a shotgun. I just have to make it permanent somehow.
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Old 01-22-2010, 5:47 PM
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I got the specs!

Specifications:

Caliber .357 Magnum/.38 special
Capacity 10 shots
Weight 6.1 lbs
Overall length 37"
Barrel 18.5"
Twist RH 10 grooves, 1/20 inches
method of feed Tube magazine
Sight radius 14"
Front Sight fixed
rear sight adjustable

So it's GTG.
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I have one, nice gun. Carries well. Some how holds only ten rounds whether 38 or 357. Action is a little clunky, my 500A is smoother.

You'll like it!
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I used mine in a rifle course a few years back. It was one of those "bring and shoot what you have" affairs.

Was able to keep up for the most part, but the loading port pretty much chewed up my thumb. It was good to know I could make it work in a pinch and have fun with it, but I don't think I'd use it again for that type of shooting.
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Old 01-23-2010, 5:35 AM
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the timber wolf is soooooo BAD I have wanted one for a few years now. they are just to pricey when i see them for sale last one i saw went for 600 (id give 3or 4) have fun is is a great gun to shoot and a great gun to hunt with too!
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Old 01-23-2010, 11:56 AM
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"The 357 magnum Timebrwolf produces the same enrgy at 100 yds. that of a rifled cartrige the 7.62x39. "

Well their information on production numbers was good. Their idea of ballistics leaves a bit to be desired...
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I have one in .44 magnum. It is a great carbine and very reliable. Do not use FMJ round nose bullets in it! I saw a picture of a Rossi 92 carbine in .357 that had a detonation in the tube from a RN FMJ bullet setting off the round in front of it. Apparently lead tips are soft enough to cushion the primer but the FMJ can detonate a sensitive primer.

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I have one in .357mag- Great gun. Taking mine out this Friday.

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I am thinking of buying an IMI Timberwolf pump in .357 mag from a family member. I bet those bullets get moving pretty good out of a 20" barrel.
The Israelis do a sweet job with weapons, the timberwolf is no exception

They're scarce as hell, easy to carry and shoot, accurate, and just a cool gun. I prefer mine to a lever gun on horseback.

Mine is sweet with an EoTech out to 100yd or so, a compact 2-4x scope would be a nice possibility.

I'm seeing ~2000fps from 158gr jhp or jfp's with reloads...I'm still 5ksi down from maximum .357 pressure. If you reload, Lil' Gun is your powder.

CDNN has oem walnut buttstock/forearm for $39.99, you may want a spare or 2. New Helvetia Trading in old Sac used to have parts kits (everything minus the receiver) but I believe they're out of business. The buttstock is adjustable for drop and the gun will also breakdown if needed with the large screw on the left side of the receiver.

If you decide not to buy the rifle, pm me please...I'd have no issues with a 2nd one.

Get it.

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DUUUUUUUUDE. Thats a sick rifle. I say get it
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NICE! How can you pass up anything made by IMI

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My buddy had one...he sold it without telling me...I would have bought it.
Very nice gun...we had handloaded .357 Mag 125 JHPs clocking right at 2,000 FPS. : ))
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Back when the Armory was around in Sac there used to be few of those receivers sitting around in the back. Cool to actually see the whole rifle. -Ben
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Well, it now rests in my safe. I will take it out this weekend and give it a go. I just hope it doesn't rain!
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