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Old 01-20-2010, 10:05 PM
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Default Ruger 9mm Carbine?

A friend of mine is a Ruger nut and he asked me to watch for a Ruger 9mm Carbine rifle. He said they were discontinued and he wants one. According to him it was primarily developed for LEO's. Does anyone have any info about these? I am a gun nut but have never seen or heard of this rifle. I am more of a Black Powder guy so I figured somebody here might be able to point me in the right direction.
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Old 01-20-2010, 10:08 PM
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Great carbine. It's a blow back 9mm (or .40 S&W). Two versions are available. One with rifle sights and one with a ghost ring sight. Try to get the ghost ring sight. They've been discontinued by Ruger for a couple of years. I don't know why, it's a great rifle. Here's mine.
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Your best bet is gunbroker.com
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Is that the official model, Blow Back?
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Is that the official model, Blow Back?
No, the name of the 9mm model is the Ruger PC9 (PC4 for the .40 cal). "Blowback" is the type of action on the semi auto rifle. Forces from the firing of the ammunition blow back the bolt to opperate it. The bolt comes back to extract and eject the spent casing and moves forward via a recoil spring and picks up another round from the magazine and feeds it into the chamber.
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No, the name of the 9mm model is the Ruger PC9 (PC4 for the .40 cal). "Blowback" is the type of action on the semi auto rifle. Forces from the firing of the ammunition blow back the bolt.
Like Duh, just smack me upside the head. Cool so I am looking for a PC9 or PC4. I appreciate your help, at least I know what I am looking for now.
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Your welcome. If during your search you find this exact butt stock carrier......


please let me be the first to buy it off of you if you don't want it. All I know is that it's not an "Uncle Mikes" carrier. Thanks.
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Almost forgot, the Ruger PC9's run approx. $500. I see you're in Oceanside. There's a police supply store in San Diego that I can't remember the name of, that may have police trade in PC9's. Many dept.s bought them I think.
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The PC9's and PC4's pop up in the Classifieds from time to time. I should know, I bought my PC9 there.

And if you wanna scope it, the non-GR model might work better. If you're gonna shoot irons, the GR's is the way to go.
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Excellent, thanks for the help. I will look for that shop in San Diego. Nice looking rifle BTW.
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There're 3 PC4's on Gunbroker right now. Only one PC9, and the seller is asking $979 for it
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Since it is (or was) a LEO model, does it accept the Glock or Beretta magazines, or does it take the Ruger magazine.

If it takes Glock mags, I'd love to have one of those to use with my old preban 30rd Glock mags
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Since it is (or was) a LEO model, does it accept the Glock or Beretta magazines, or does it take the Ruger magazine.

If it takes Glock mags, I'd love to have one of those to use with my old preban 30rd Glock mags
From the factory, it accepted only Ruger P-series handgun magazines. There was a custom shop that did the glock magazine conversions, but has since stopped.
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They are great little guns! I had a PC4 that I sold to a fellow CalGunner and have regretted it ever since! Very accurate and reliable. They never really caught on, the Glock mag conversion would be awesome!
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Cool rifle, the PC9 was the first gun I ever fired
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The standard model comes with a nice walnut stock. The PC9 is more common than the PC4.

The PC9 uses double stacked 9mm pistol magazines that are the same as one of the S&W handguns (686?) Any hi-cap double stacked 9mm magazine you already have will probably work if you cut another notch at the right position for the magazine catch.
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I have the PC-4 and I like it alot. I modified a CZ-40 mag to work in it.

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Dang, that looks like a FUN weapon.

I'd love to get a featureless 9mm carbine that uses glock mags.
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The PC9 uses double stacked 9mm pistol magazines that are the same as one of the S&W handguns (686?) Any hi-cap double stacked 9mm magazine you already have will probably work if you cut another notch at the right position for the magazine catch.
My PC9 mags interchange with Ruger P89 mags.
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Dang, that looks like a FUN weapon.

I'd love to get a featureless 9mm carbine that uses glock mags.
Olympic Arms, Lone Wolf Distributors and MGI all make ARs that use Glock magazines.
You could get one of those and make it featureless, in order to use your large capacity Glock magazines.
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Cool rifle, the PC9 was the first gun I ever fired
I've got the PC-4 (police carbine 40 cal). They were popular with some departments, but the one flaw was officers were carrying magazines for their Beretta's or Glocks, and the carbine used Ruger magazines. If Ruger they would have made them to use Glock or Beretta magazines, they would probably still be selling them to P.D.'s.
They are a blast to shoot. And if you reload, very cheap to shoot.
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I am still looking for a PC4!!
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I am getting out of 40 caliber all together, BUT I just can't get rid of my PC4 because I LOVE it!!!
Its the carbine Glock should have made!
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I am getting out of 40 caliber all together, BUT I just can't get rid of my PC4 because I LOVE it!!!
Its the carbine Glock should have made!
I will TAKE it...
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Olympic Arms, Lone Wolf Distributors and MGI all make ARs that use Glock magazines.
You could get one of those and make it featureless, in order to use your large capacity Glock magazines.
I've thought of that and may do that though I'd prefer something without a pistol grip that looks like a classic rifle, like this Ruger.

If I was going for a pistol grip carbine i'd have to go with a sub2000, though those need some work before being ca legal.
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Add me to the list of PC9 owners . My first rifle purchase, I got one of the earlier ones marked "Police Carbine". I also have a nice supply of preban Ruger 15 rd mags for it. It shoots anything, not picky at all. The trigger is not the greatest, but it's decent enough (I hear the later models are rougher). There was a time that I wanted to sell it because of my preoccupation with ARs, but I'm glad I kept it.
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