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Old 03-03-2017, 10:59 PM
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Just found out that business is not going well for them and they will be forced to close their doors soon. I know its nothing big compared to Poway Weapons and Gear, but its a really friendly range and the guys that work there are great.
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Old 03-04-2017, 1:24 AM
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I can't say enough good things about SDFTC. Donated.
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Old 03-04-2017, 4:55 AM
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I can't say enough good things about SDFTC. Donated.

Agreed way better than PWG. Sadly I don't think that 2 days is enough time to do much.
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Old 03-04-2017, 8:12 AM
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I thought something was up. When I was in yesterday and asked about renewing my membership they said I would have to wait because there were having "issues" with there accounting system. Props to them for not taking my money, although I am not at all surprised. Really enjoy shooting there, not as fancy as the other place but always a friendly and relaxing environment. I really hope they figure something out.
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Old 03-04-2017, 8:20 AM
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Just read the Go Fund Me page, says doors will close in 2 days. With a target of $50k, it doesn't look good.
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Old 03-04-2017, 9:26 AM
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With today's crowded ranges, how can a local range here go out of biz on their own? We are getting a new one here in Carlsbad at Gunther Guns due to high demand.

If it does, will it be sold and re-opened or permanently shut down?
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Very very sorry to hear this. Absolutely have loved this range. And the employees too. I'm in my 2nd year of membership.


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Been a member since their first day. Very sad. Donated.
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Old 03-04-2017, 6:40 PM
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This kind of reminds me of the Blues Brothers trying to get together the $5000 in a few days before the orphanage closes down. It ain't gonna happen though and even if it did how much longer before they needed another $50000?
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I was one of the first members, as part of a corporate membership. I actual stumbled upon this place before it was even opened. A coworker and I were driving through the parking lot trying to see if it was the range we had heard about and the owner came out asking if he could help us. He gave us a tour before they opened and sold us on membership...we were hooked and signed up. I believe that owners name was Steve, a really nice guy.

I was all downhill from there. I was shopping for a new gun and called to see if they had one, could get one and get a quote. I was told they don't discuss price over the phone, even to a member. Another time John was berating Steve about who's brass was on the sale counter. Very unprofessional.

No sense beating a dead horse further, I haven't been back in years and neither has the lion's share of our group so best of luck on their new endeavors.

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Old 03-05-2017, 11:21 AM
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Like any other business there is a chance of failure. I never shot there but I went in with a friend who was looking for some mags. The store was kind of dissapointing. **** happens just because its a gun store that was poorly run doesnt mean that we should shell out money to prop them up.
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Old 03-06-2017, 4:10 AM
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That's very unfortunate.

We practiced there and found it to be an extremely clean and safe facility.

Always felt that we were treated nicely and professionally.
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Old 03-06-2017, 12:38 PM
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I have been there once and never went back...i had a bad experience with the RO...it's still sad and I wish them the best of luck
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Why in the hell would you donate to keep a business open. Sorry to see a range go away, but if it's a viable business they wouldn't need a donation.
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Old 03-06-2017, 1:57 PM
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I donated not because I thought it would make a difference but that I was a loyal customer for several years and appreciated the service.
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They are a really good range. Good people too. And a sponsor of cgssa. This sucks..

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They kind of hurt themselves when they first opened up. They turned away a lot of shootwrs because they wouldn't allow people to collect their own brass . I had multiple people report to me that they were yelled at for it. Also yelled at or treated poorly by staff for other reasons . A lot of things like that gave them a bad reputation . Then PW&G opened their range and overshadowed this smaller range . Plus no stories of being yelled at for firing too fast , or for picking up brass for reloading. The combination of all things led to them being where they at now. Maybe someone else will step in and buy it.
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They kind of hurt themselves when they first opened up. They turned away a lot of shootwrs because they wouldn't allow people to collect their own brass . I had multiple people report to me that they were yelled at for it. Also yelled at or treated poorly by staff for other reasons . A lot of things like that gave them a bad reputation . Then PW&G opened their range and overshadowed this smaller range . Plus no stories of being yelled at for firing too fast , or for picking up brass for reloading. The combination of all things led to them being where they at now. Maybe someone else will step in and buy it.
Lol if they got yelled at more than likely it's for a reason. There are a lot of dumbasses at the range. They take safety very seriously. I'm good with that. Have you actually been there? As far as I know they have always let you collect brass, just your own. I asked the manager about that the first time I went, because I recalled a thread when they first opened and she told me their policy was always you can collect your own that falls behind the line blah blah.

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Old 03-07-2017, 12:38 PM
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Sad. Great range, well lit, well ventilated, great staff. As Soapbox mentions, they take safety very seriously. I preferred to take new shooters there over any other range.
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Old 03-07-2017, 6:28 PM
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They kind of hurt themselves when they first opened up. They turned away a lot of shootwrs because they wouldn't allow people to collect their own brass . I had multiple people report to me that they were yelled at for it. Also yelled at or treated poorly by staff for other reasons . A lot of things like that gave them a bad reputation . Then PW&G opened their range and overshadowed this smaller range . Plus no stories of being yelled at for firing too fast , or for picking up brass for reloading. The combination of all things led to them being where they at now. Maybe someone else will step in and buy it.
I had never had any experiences like those described above. I like their SO's and also feel confident that take safety seriously (as they should). My wife really enjoyed shooting there (if going indoors). I never once had them say anything about the speed I or those with me were shooting.

With PW&G just down the street it would be a tough market for competition. Time will tell. Sorry that it did not work out for them.
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There are a couple RSO's that actually will sweep up my brass for me. Only issue I ever had was being asked to use a broom rather than ducking under the bench. Never tried bump firing but I've never seen anyone say anything about rapid firing.

All the guys I have run across there are either nice or neutral. Took my mom, dad, aunt and uncle in one time and they went out of there to help my mom and aunt with some pointers. Even let them try his Glock.

Water under the bridge at this point I guess, hopefully they figure something out. I'll be renewing my membership if they do.
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I am just relaying what I was told when they opened. This also what was being said for quite some time afterwards. I thought it was a very nice range and never had a problem there. I mostly shoot outdoor, so Usually I just try different indoor ranges to inform others at meet and greets , etc.
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I am just relaying what I was told when they opened. This also what was being said for quite some time afterwards. I thought it was a very nice range and never had a problem there. I mostly shoot outdoor, so Usually I just try different indoor ranges to inform others at meet and greets , etc.
I do remember some discussions on here that there was some confusion when they opened about what you could/couldn't shoot there and their brass policy. Likely left a bad impression with some folks from the beginning.
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Why in the hell would you donate to keep a business open. Sorry to see a range go away, but if it's a viable business they wouldn't need a donation.
So much this ^

So they setup a go fund me asking for money because the business wasn't sustainable? Isn't that what liberals do?
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Ha,,,never heard of the place!
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Ha,,,never heard of the place!
And likely that's why they are leaving.
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So are they officially closed? I was going to stop by tomorrow.
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One of the safest and friendly indoor ranges to shoot with friends. Great Range Officer always ready to assist. As a member I hope they can survive!

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So are they officially closed? I was going to stop by tomorrow.
Open today (all lanes were taken at 11:15, a good sign) and "business as usual".

No talk about the range closing.
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Heard they are going to be closing after Sunday June 11th?
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I'm not surprised -- they haven't "accepted" my membership renewal (stating "accounting reasons") for a month and have been letting me shoot there for free. Good guys for sure.
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Besides Gunthers, North County Firearms (Prince 50's place) is also opening up a 25 yard range later this year.

There is the demand if you operate well.
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Open today (all lanes were taken at 11:15, a good sign) and "business as usual".

No talk about the range closing.
Don't people work? That's late morning during a work week. I have noticed a trend in California since I have been back. So many people not working and out spending money. I just don't get it. You don't see this on a routine basis in other states. Especially smaller freestates.

I go after work at like 5pm and there is like 20 lanes at Maine Military Supply and during the work week you maybe have half the lanes full, if that. I have gone in and there was 1 lane being used. I like that. Not all crowded like SoCal. Not everyone in your business. Who likes that? Not me. Gosh I hate being so negative all the time but there's always something bad to say about California and it's not just me saying it.
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Don't people work? That's late morning during a work week. I have noticed a trend in California since I have been back. So many people not working and out spending money. I just don't get it. You don't see this on a routine basis in other states. Especially smaller freestates.

I go after work at like 5pm and there is like 20 lanes at Maine Military Supply and during the work week you maybe have half the lanes full, if that. I have gone in and there was 1 lane being used. I like that. Not all crowded like SoCal. Not everyone in your business. Who likes that? Not me. Gosh I hate being so negative all the time but there's always something bad to say about California and it's not just me saying it.
when I used to shoot at Ironsights 2-3 times a week, one HAD to go in the middle of a work day to avoid the crowds. If I retire in CA, I'll have to do the same thing to avoid our horrendous traffic -- only drive and do stuff mid-day.

SDFTC had a sign on their door stating closure at the end of today. They mentioned that an investor change may allow the range to re-open in several weeks, so the closure may not be permanent.
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Wonder where DAS is headed to?
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Wonder where DAS is headed to?
Supposedly somewhere in the Miramar area. They were out a month or so ago. Frankly, not the same shop it was a few years ago, will be interesting to see what becomes of them.
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Miramar is gun row here in San Diego.
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Interestingly enough, last weekend the wife and I were down in the neighborhood of DAS (we never seem to go that way) and I figure maybe it's time I finally stop and check it out. Google it to look up the address and it kept pointing to the location where SDFTC is/was located. Then I saw on their website that they were moving. Is that where they are going?

Btw, SDFire, I have been yelled at at PWG for picking up my brass (which ultimately resulted in me refusing to give them MY brass and LEAVING). This was quite a while ago but that particular individual still treats me with the same blatant disrespect he did that day every time I interact with him. I go there enough that many of the staff members know me by name, know what I'm shooting, etc. I know misunderstandings happen, but once I explained that I was only picking up my brass that I had fired, it should have ended there. Instead, he chose to posture up and take me to the principles office. That particular encounter almost made me never return, it was completely out of line. Unfortunately I am weak and I spend a lot of time on their 100 yard range purely out of convenience.
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Heard they are going to be closing after Sunday June 11th?
Just checked their web site, it says: "Unfortunately operations at San Diego Firearms Training Center will conclude 5pm Sunday June 11th, due to unforeseen events. We are very sorry for the inconvenience.

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Interestingly enough, last weekend the wife and I were down in the neighborhood of DAS (we never seem to go that way) and I figure maybe it's time I finally stop and check it out. Google it to look up the address and it kept pointing to the location where SDFTC is/was located. Then I saw on their website that they were moving. Is that where they are going?
They were in the SDFTC building but vacated awhile ago. They posted a picture of a empty shop on Instagram indicating it was there new location but no specifics were given. The guys at SDFTC said it was somewhere along Miramar Rd.
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