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![]() PICTURE OF THE BOLT HANDLE ADDED ON POST #233 The Ammo: ![]() The tool allegedly used to close the bolt at some point: (Edited to add that the shooter used his palm when this incident occurred) ![]() The End Results: ![]() ![]() THIS PART IS A LITTLE GRAPHIC! The Consequence: ![]() I didn't take pictures of the shooter out of respect for their privacy.. but his hands/arms were injured pretty badly. He was obviously in tremendous pain as he and his buddies waited quite a while for paramedics. Are paramedics/EMTs supposed to take their sweet time when walking onsite? Anyhow.. I was told that the shooter(s) often times used a hammer to close the bolt. Feel sorry for the pain and damage the shooter had to endure.. but that's the potential consequence of improper reloading and firearm use. Last edited by wildcard; 01-11-2010 at 7:02 PM.. |
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Hope all works out OK for him.
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Yea that looks like the grains in each round. He may have been doing some testing and working up some load tests.
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This is an example of absolutely what NOT to do with any weapon, especially .50 since it has enough energy to kill the shooter and anyone in close proximity. Just plain dumb! I hope he recovers, but someone needs to have a serious conversation with this guy. ![]() As to the item protruding from the tube, that is the firing pin. I have seen someone break the tiny little E clip that holds the BOHICA firing pin in place. A completely inadequate design, IMO. Oh...and then he used duct tape to try to fix it, locking up the bolt when he fired it. Looks like Darwin is alive and well in the BOHICA owner's community.
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Ok, so what exactly happened?
Did a round cook off half into the chamber? Or was it over pressure?
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50 shooters often times have a hammer ready in case they need it to OPEN the bolt AFTER a round has FIRED. In this case, the shooter obviously did not know what he was doing. In any event, I hope and pray that he'll make a full recovery.
It appears that it was an OOBD. It could have been caused by any one of several reasons such as a high primer, a stuck firing pin, etc. Let's not speculate too much. It won't do anyone any good.
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Sometimes if you your bolt is hard to close with a round in the chamber you can use the "palm" of your hand to give it a light tap and that usually is enough to close the bolt all the way. If you cannot close it using your palm then the round needs to come out. Usually if this occurs the shoulder of the case in not formed correctly to your chamber or your round is not the correct length which will cause the bolt not close all the way...
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Hopefully the guy is alright, but let it be a lesson to everyone not to use a BFH on your guns.
That reminds me of the AR15 kaboom where the guy kept slamming on the forward assist to chamber the rounds. If you have to use the FA like that on an AR, something is wrong. |
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Round fired w/o the bolt being 100% closed. Him hammering the bolt caused an out of battery explosion of considerable magnitude.
I hope he isn't too badly hurt. Prayers for his full and speedy recovery.
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I don't even know how to respond - the guy was using a hammer to get the bolt closed?
I hope the guy isn't hurt too badly, and finds another hobby.
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![]() The bolt handle is on the bench in the lower right of the 4th photo. It's pure luck that the handle or the extractor wasn't launched into an adjacent shooter.
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Jeebus Fiest......
I can only imagine what his right hand must look like (and feel). Dumb or not, you hate to see that happen to somebody. Makes me think of the signature line someone on here has. It goes something like: "Reloading, think of it like a math test where if you get the answer wrong you lose a hand" |
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i'm horrible at math. i'm never going to pick up reloading.
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That is what I was going to post. If you need to use a little something extra to close the bolt whether it is a hammer or a forward assist then there is something wrong. The fact that the round won't chamber is a clear warning that something is wrong.
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They have case gauges for .50 calibers. If he had one of these it would have helped him. A case gauge is a very important tool to have when reloading!
I have case gauges for all the ammo I reload. Simple way to test the ammo if it fits. That was a major mistake trying to fit a non fitting bullet. The easiest way for him to test is by opening his rifle in half and testing the reloaded ammo by dropping it in the barrel for fitting test. At least no firing pin to deal with. Here's a case gauge for the .50 : Case gages allow you to check your Rifle & Pistol ammunition to ensure it will fit a minimum sized chamber http://www.sinclairintl.com/product/...eadspace-Tools ![]() Just my 2 cents. It is very sad to learn the dangerous way! I hope he recovers quick.
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I didn't say it was his reloading that got him into trouble......just that the event reminded me of someones tag-line. Big difference.
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Damn, that's insane. What exactly happened to the shooter?
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Your supposed to "fire form" .50 DTC. NOT HAMMER FORGE.
But this comes to mind. Anyone remember this Bugs Bunny cartoon? ![]() "You have to hit it just right"
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Pic 5 shows the base of the 50 cal case hidden behind the bolt, where it blew out of battery. I had this happen to one of my soldiers over in Iraq. It was literally like a laser cut the brass case in half. The remaining portion of it was left in the chamber. Looks same here. Man, stupid does hurt.
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