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Old 01-09-2010, 3:24 AM
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ok, so im in afghanistan, and a secret type of fella talked to me today about riveting a side scop mount to his rpk. he has the mount and three rivets, two short, one long. also a little instruction sheet. i have access to pretty much any tool, but some sort of rivet crusher. i know some people modify bolt cutters. i was hoping some one could help point me in the right direction to find out how to make a tool, and how to put the mount on the gun. a picture tutorial would be awesome. thanks. ill take pictures of it when or if i can do it.
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You can make your own rivet crusher out of a bolt cutter. Here is a previous discussion on this forum: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=254942

But here is one being sold on Ebay, and the photo will give you an idea of how the rivet tool needs to be shaped: http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivet-squeezer-w...item2c52880a6b

I suspect you can acquire bolt cutters fairly easily in the military.
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[QUOTE=paratroop;3613060]ok, so im in afghanistan, and a secret type of fella talked to me today ...............QUOTE]

I just wanted to point out that this should be the way all stories begin...

back to the issue, yep...mod some boltcutters.
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Here are some dimensions if that helps. I got it off of akforum.




I've never seen a scope rail riveted with a bolt cutter riveter. You really need a press for this one, but more mods to the cutter may get it to clear the RPK receiver.
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If you can't get it done, just ship the RPK to me and I'll rivet it up for you, test fire, and ship it back.
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Here's my factory installed Romanian RPK rail. It helps if you could tell us or show us what kind of side scope rail you have, and what kind of rear trunnion the RPK has. What country is the RPK from? As you can see from the pic, the first two rivets are easy to rivet on. The third (on the right) uses the existing long rivet hole of the rear stock trunnion. That will require you to drill out that rivet if your RPK has a solid type rear trunnion. If it's a "Y" trunnion, then it will be easier, as it does not use a long rivet.

Here's a reference for scope rails.
http://www.tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/bstmounts.html
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What a solid rear trunnion looks like.
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This is what a Russian RPK "Y" rear trunnion looks like.
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wow. thanks for all the help guys. i m not really sure about all the technical stuff regarding the gun, i only handled it for a moment. so usually for attaching the mount, you would use a press? im sure i can figure something out, thanks once again.
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would the rivets be placed on the inside of the reciever, facing out? if thats the case, could i just brace the back of the rivit on the inside of the receiver, then pound the hell out of it on the out side to flatten it out?
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Yes, with a press. Especially for that long rear rivet. Please keep us posted and stay safe. Oh, and we NEED pics.
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would the rivets be placed on the inside of the reciever, facing out? if thats the case, could i just brace the back of the rivit on the inside of the receiver, then pound the hell out of it on the out side to flatten it out?
Yes, the head is inside the receiver with the post facing out. I can try and get you measurments of the rivet locations tonight.
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Hey paratroop, are there stores like home depot's in afghan? I always imagined that place as only desert with a few tents propped up
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Here is a video with an AK74 reciever showing pretty much how to drill the holes. Im not sure if you use swell neck rivets or not here.

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I've done it before with bolt cutters, but something backing the rivets inside the receiver and a hammer will do in a pinch.

Start with the rear hole. Drill out the long rivet, place mount and insert long rivet. Use the long rivet as a pivot point to align the rail parallel to the top-rail of the receiver. Mark then drill the two other holes. While setting the first rivet, have the other two rivets inserted to keep the rail aligned.

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like home depot, no. mostly little shops, bazaars and what not. in kabul there are more bigger stores its a pretty big city. actually some places are like you imagine. where im at there are some trees, and it actually looks like the hills of southern california. right now alot of afghanistan is covered in snow, but here its about 70 degrees outside.

if i have the time, im going to tackle the scope mount this week. ill take pictures and tell you all how i did it. once again, thanks for all the help. now i want to build an ak when i come home, thanks for that too.
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like home depot, no. mostly little shops, bazaars and what not. in kabul there are more bigger stores its a pretty big city. actually some places are like you imagine. where im at there are some trees, and it actually looks like the hills of southern california. right now alot of afghanistan is covered in snow, but here its about 70 degrees outside.

if i have the time, im going to tackle the scope mount this week. ill take pictures and tell you all how i did it. once again, thanks for all the help. now i want to build an ak when i come home, thanks for that too.
We'll be waitin for ya! Stay safe!
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if i have the time, im going to tackle the scope mount this week. ill take pictures and tell you all how i did it. once again, thanks for all the help. now i want to build an ak when i come home, thanks for that too.
Pictures would be great. Video of the testfire would be awesome! Thank you.
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